Tempted by sin...

[tony609]

Had to add some humor to this soon-to-be-locked thread!!!!....now, did you want to buy my souveneir cup when I get back so you can use it on your trip???? I'll sell it to you for $5, including shipping and handling.

LOL.

Do you have one for Pop Century..my friend could use one....$5 is a steal....
PS... Is that certified mail and do you take Paypal...LOL

 

[Disneynut25]

You know it always cracks me up when I read posts that say "My DH and I never lie" or "I don't want to teach my 2 year old that it's ok to lie" when in the same breath we tell our children that
1) a jolly fat man is going to sneak in our homes at night and bring us presents
2) an easter bunny is going to hop from house to house hiding colored eggs in the bushes
3) A fairy is going to sneak in your childs room at night, take a tooth and leave money in exchange for the tooth
4) The Pilgrims and the Indians sat down together and enjoyed a wonderful feast and gave Thanks (together)
Do I need to go on...I'm sure that most of us have told these "lies" to our children and if we have not then I'm sure that there was something that we didnt give the complete truth to them about....just remember...a lie is a lie is a lie is a lie.

 

[k5thbeatle]

the way that Disney steals from us is what I consider "legal stealing". I know that sounds wierd, but look how much they charge for everything. You can bet they're not going hungry.

One of the all time most ignorant comments ever posted!

 

[tony609]

Haven't we also told a friend,co-worker,mother,sister,boyfriend,husband and so on.....

"No you look great in those plaid shorts and clogs"

"they gave you a great deal on that car"

"Sure I'll drive you to the airport, no problem"

"How exciting...your going to Disney World....again!"
(thats the lie I hear from most people)[/I]

"What a beautiful baby"

"No I'd love to do that...sounds good"

"I'n not bored, I love your 2000 slides from your trip to the Grand Canyon"

"No parachute pants are in style again..their retro!"

I know theres different degrees to a lie..But some people are saying a lie is a lie....WE all have lied at some point. In school I was told there are times in life we must lie, good manners...could you honestly tell your cousin rose her baby looks like Ed Asner...LOL

 

[tinker&belle]

Oh my goodness...I have been observing this thread and it has been a bit like when you see a car accident about to happen, but you just have to watch... . I know that I can see both sides of the issue. I know that if I were faced with a barely 3 year oldthis would be a tempting scenario. I also know that because I am not currently facing this choice it is very easy to say, 'he/she should not do that'. However then I am reminded of the ENORMOUS plank in my own eye (biblical reference). OP-I'm not going to tell you what to do. Listen to your heart/gut/conscience (like dear Jiminey would say). Either way have a fabulous trip and make memories!!!

 

[jann1033]

This thought probably does not pertain to most on now, unless you are in Ca. But if you posted about "Morals" and "Lying" etc while you were at work??? Guess What??? You have just "stolen" company time.

not me i don't work except at home

 

[jann1033]

Great example..also Its like if you commit murder...1 day could make the difference if your tried as an adult or child......either way i hope the defendant would have their refillable resort mug with them, free drink at the court house coffee shop.....

PS Mines going back this month..

seriously I was told by a CM that if you bought the mug within a year you could use it throughout that year.....he also said that CM's were told never to question a guest and their mug. Do you think thats true? The cm said he still sees Grand Openning PC mugs from over 2 years ago.... ..Do you think he meant me.....

you mean the guests aren't the only ones who can't read what is written on the sides of the mugs??? i've always wondered how so many can afford wdw and not be able to read...warms the heart to think how they have overcome their learning problems

 

[tony609]

you mean the guests aren't the only ones who can't read what is written on the sides of the mugs??? i've always wondered how so many can afford wdw and not be able to read...warms the heart to think how they have overcome their learning problems

I laughed when the CM told me about the grand opening mug,,,,he also told me he has seen guests fill the little water cups from the room, the big bottles with the characters on top from the theme parks, soda cans..wait I think I am giving out ideas..lol

 

[jann1033]

You know it always cracks me up when I read posts that say "My DH and I never lie" or "I don't want to teach my 2 year old that it's ok to lie" when in the same breath we tell our children that
1) a jolly fat man is going to sneak in our homes at night and bring us presents
2) an easter bunny is going to hop from house to house hiding colored eggs in the bushes
3) A fairy is going to sneak in your childs room at night, take a tooth and leave money in exchange for the tooth
4) The Pilgrims and the Indians sat down together and enjoyed a wonderful feast and gave Thanks (together)
Do I need to go on...I'm sure that most of us have told these "lies" to our children and if we have not then I'm sure that there was something that we didnt give the complete truth to them about....just remember...a lie is a lie is a lie is a lie.

i agree a lie is a lie is a lie so no to 1-4, and no to the last part...before the lie is a lie is a lie part. odd as it may seem some people really don't lie ( ie, someone has a hideous outfit on and ask me how they look, i find something nice to say about something else about them...that is not lying, i don't deceive them or lead them to believe i like their hideous outfit, just that their hair, smile teeth, toenails look especially nice that day.if i don't see anything i change the subject) not that it is always convenient to tell the truth but that's life -you do it even if it isn't easy if you don't want to lie. I don't like to be lied to so would it be right for me to lie to someone else?

 

[Philly81]

everyone lies, everyone steals. We just choose different times / places to do it.

Everyone has driven too fast in a car, or rolled thru a stop sign. Everyone who lives or works in a major city has jaywalked.

There are many different things that some consider right or wrong. Regardless of your opinion, everyone is entitled to an opinion and nobody has the right to judge anybody else unless they themselves are perfect....

I agree with you on this. Everyone has their decisions to make that are solely theirs but why when it is something against policy do some feel the need to ask people on a public forum what they think about doing it? If they want to do it fine, but really...should it matter if they get some posts that say, "I did it too." Why should it matter? Then when there are responses that say, "no I don't do that" those folks are ridiculed.

 

[riopooh]

When we were there last year, my DS was 10. I would have loved to have bought the childs ticket. He wanted me to buy a child's ticket - he does not want to be an "adult". But I couldn't do it. Some day, it would come back to haunt me. It's kind of like being drunk in front of your kids. Too big a price will eventually be paid.

Now if he was 3 1/3 and clueless................... I'd probably do it.

 

[DisFlan]

everyone lies, everyone steals. We just choose different times / places to do it.

And I could trust them....when?

Do people who stiff Disney and lie about kids' ages magically become honest, trustworthy citizens when they leave Disney property? What else of import do they lie about? Or is it just Disney stuff? Because, as we all know, Disney stuff doesn't count, right?.

I'd rather think of myself as trustworthy whether I'm at Disney or not. Just call it one of my eccentric little idiosyncrasies.


DisFlan

 

[TinkerbellMama]

My son isn't 3 yet, but no, I'd never even consider lying about his age at Disney. What I WILL do is plan a trip a week or two before his third birthday! We always go in the fall, anyway, so it works perfectly for us. And before anyone jumps all over me for saying I wouldn't lie about his age, NO, I am not claiming to be some kind of saint or martyr. I have told lies before, and I even took a few office supplies from work back in the day. Yes, my boss knew. No, she didn't care. No, that didn't make it "right"...but it was just a freakin' stack of post-its!
Anyway, what I was saying is that I'd never lie about this. My son would so totally notice and be upset that I'd said he was 2. My husband is also the Morality Police and would NEVER EVER EVER brook any such behavior. He'd be mortified. Yes, he is honest to a fault. HE will absolutely tell you if your butt looks too big in that dress...BELIEVE ME!
What's that saying? If you tell one lie, you must tell another. Meaning, once you've lied, you have to keep on lying to cover your original lie. Too much work for me, and something I'd never expect or tolerate from my son. So I guess you could say I'm just too LAZY to lie to save a buck at WDW!

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Wow. some of you are off to a great start. But it sounds like you need some extra help. This is a job for CWFD's 7 blame transering rationilizations of the perp. Armed with these, when someone posts or says something to you and that little worthless thing called a concience starts getting in the way of whatever it is you wish to rationalize, you just lather, rinse, and repeat with these.
1. Stop being so holier than thou.
2. It's none of your business.
3. Quit being so judgemental. Nobody should judge anyone.
4. Everyone does it. But Timmy did it too.
5. Big Bad Corporation XYZ charges too much. So they're really stealing from us.
6. Don't you have bigger fish to fry? It's just a lil bit.
7. It's just a little white lie, you know, sort of like Santa Claus.

None of them justify it. Not one. But we don't need to justify it. We just need to put that useless thing in the way called a concience back in the trash can where it belongs all the while convincing ourselves we can throw away our concience and still have it too.

Observe how truly powerful and liberating these are.

DoGooder: You know lying to obtain a benefit in a transaction you are otherwise not entitled to is fraud don't you?
OH NO, GETTING QUEESY, CONSCIENCE OVERLOAD IN 10 SECONDS....
perp: Stop being so holier than thou.
BACK IN THE ASH CAN WITH YOU CONSCIENCE. MWAHAHAHA!!!.

DoGooder: Say uh you do know if you have your 10 year old lie for you, when they're teenagers, they're going to lie to you don't you? And why not? You've just taught them to lie when it's profitable at the moment to them to do so.
OH NO!!! FEELINGS OF GUILT!!! WHAT TO DO? WHAT TO DO?
Perp: Hey, it's none of your business how I raise my kids. That I'm the one that brought the subject up is irrelevant.
HEEL CONCIENCE. DOWN BOY!!!!

DoGooder: C'mon you know taking that yogurt is stealing don't you?
OH NO!!! A RELAPSE!!!
Perp: Hey. I didn't ask for an ethical debate. I just want to know if I'm going to get caught. Disney charges us too much. Just look at these outrageous prices. They're not losing anything on me. Power to the people!!!
AHHHH.

Once you are liberated from your concience, none of these dogooders will have an effect. And it's all good. Because the problem isn't that we're doing something wrong. The problem is someone is telling us that it is.

 

[DawnM]

We went when my youngest had just turned 3. We got him a ticket. The people at the hotel where we got our tickets even told us, "Oh, Disney won't ask. You could get away with it." I was shocked!



Dawn

 

[Thierry444]

Just curious as to how many of you have been tempted to sin in the same way I was. When I go next my son would have just turned 3, and the thought crossed my mind to say he was still 2. (I know, slap my hands with the ruler now) I couldn't bring myself to cheat the happiest place on earth. Just wondering how many of you have been tempted or have sinned. Sean

It's funny to see how different are the minds depending of the countries. In USA, people wonder if they can cheat... Here, in France, nobody wonders about it... they just do it !!!!

 

[beattyfamily]

Ha! Ha! Some of the rationals and justifications for lying and stealing are hilarious!

Comparing saving $200 by lying to Disney to telling our kids there is a Santa Claus... too funny! That's a good one. You guys are pulling out all the stops.

Hey, we all are tempted to 'sin' (human nature) but most of us follow our conscience and listen to that little voice called 'guilt' and do the right thing.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Haven't we also told a friend,co-worker,mother,sister,boyfriend,husband and so on.....

"No you look great in those plaid shorts and clogs"

"they gave you a great deal on that car"

"Sure I'll drive you to the airport, no problem"

"How exciting...your going to Disney World....again!"
(thats the lie I hear from most people)[/I]

"What a beautiful baby"

"No I'd love to do that...sounds good"

"I'n not bored, I love your 2000 slides from your trip to the Grand Canyon"

"No parachute pants are in style again..their retro!"

I know theres different degrees to a lie..But some people are saying a lie is a lie....WE all have lied at some point. In school I was told there are times in life we must lie, good manners...could you honestly tell your cousin rose her baby looks like Ed Asner...LOL

These are ALL white lies and in these situations it is better to teel a lie to not hurt somebodies feelings. Saying your child is younger then they are to save money is not a white lie it is a LIE. You are stealing a service that you are suppose to pay for (the park). So if one tells a white lie that is a green light to steal?

 

[mickeyfan2]

My son isn't 3 yet, but no, I'd never even consider lying about his age at Disney. What I WILL do is plan a trip a week or two before his third birthday!

WOW what a novel idea!!!! Go when they REALLY are two!!!!

 

[patsal]

I've been tempted to sin, but not cheating Disney rather to call in sick on a Thursday, Friday, and Monday to enjoy Disney at Christmas or in the Fall when I am "technically not allowed" since I can't take legitimate vacation time for it! I ahve not done this yet--but every year I get more tempted.