*** Television, Fall 2009 ***

Right now its Supernatural and The Mentalist for Thursday.
Moday is still a mess because of both DWTS and Heroes.
 
I have updated the first message in this thread, this morning, reflecting the fall schedule for "the CW" network.

And it brought about the only big surprise AFAIC: Smallville is being moved to Friday 8PM, to make room for Vampire Diaries to lead into Supernatural on Thursday. Vampire Diaries is the kind of show my wife and I would normally watch, but Bones and Flash Forward are also scheduled for Thursday 8PM, so we've got our only real three-way conflict of the fall season there. Things could change over the summer, of course.
 
Monday
8:00-9:00 pm Gossip Girl
9:00-10:00 pm One Tree Hill

Tuesday
8:00-9:00 pm 90210
9:00-10:00 pm Melrose Place

Wednesday
8:00-9:00 pm America's Next Top Model
9:00-10:00 pm The Beautiful Life

Thursday
8:00-9:00 pm Vampire Diaries
9:00-10:00 pm Supernatural

Friday
8:00-9:00 pm Smallville
9:00-10:00 pm America's Next Top Model (rerun)
 
Who else thinks OTH will be done after next year? 2 major cast members leaving especially.

*trots off to change Smallville to Friday on the TiVo*
 

TiVo will find its way to recording Smallville on Friday. What you need to do is change your TiVo to record Medium on CBS from now on... that change TiVo will not make for you.
 
I really like Eureka, so I keep holding out hope.

Is that show ever coming back?

Eureka is scheduled to start back up in Early July. It is moving to Friday nights to take up Battlestar Galactica's old time slot.
 
Bicker, I didn't see this when I posted the keep/cancel thread - wow - you really did your homework - you are super organized with the tv/dvr schedule!
 
I don't actually watch that much television more than the average person. (18 1/2 hours of time per week devoted to watching television is average, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics; my wife and I average 20 hours.) I think the way I put it in another thread was that I am "abnormally interested" in the television industry. :)
 
Is anyone leaving Criminal Minds? I'm spooked thanks to the season finale.
 
We didn't watch Criminal Minds this past year... too many conflicts.

We could possibly catch up with the series, starting with Episode 411: "The team investigates a serial killer dubbed "The Road Warrior," a suspect who kills luxury car owners while they are driving on freeways in Southern California..." Do you think we could effectively pick it up from there? Or have we already missed too much to catch up?
 
I came in a tiny bit late this season but caught up pretty quick.
 
Interesting statistics regarding the planned fall 2009 television season:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/23/2009-fall-broadcast-tv-schedules-compared-by-the-numbers/19349

Highlights:
ABC has anounced [sic] the largest number of new shows for next fall, but NBC has the most new show hours.
(But I think that includes five hours for Leno.)

CBS has the most hours of original scripted shows, but the CW has the highest share of programming dedicated to original scripted shows and NBC has the lowest share.
That CW factoid surprised me, but the CBS and NBC factoids were obvious. And the NBC number is shocking -- half that of CBS. Troubling as a viewer -- no question. It remains to be seen if this low-hanging fruit approach will be more profitable for NBC.
 
Hmmm... while I'm not happy that Heroes is only going to be on for half the season, I gotta say that moving it to 8:00 is going to help me out a lot!

I'm sure that was their goal :goodvibes
 
So what does everybody think of Leno being on at a prime slot - will it hurt the network to be losing all those slots for "normal" shows? - I suppose NBC will have to tone down Heros a little bit because of it being on earlier (700 here)
I am just glad How I met your mother and Big Bang will be back- I love those guys! Sheldon is on of the best characters!

Fridays on CBS is interesting - Ghost Whisperer amd Medium back to back - interesting takes on similar topics.
 
A lot of folks feel that Hollywood simply cannot make great television, 26 episodes a year. It is too expensive to maintain the kind of writing and production activity that would be necessary to do that and achieve high quality, so 13 episodes (as we'll see for both Heroes and Chuck next season) is a good thing: Writing and production staff can focus their 13 best ideas into the series, and leave the chaff behind.

Regarding Leno, I jokingly refer to it as the Scourge of Leno. It does take five hours of prime time out of contention for a scripted drama; I would personally prefer the dramas to a variety show. However, I don't see how it could hurt the network: Remember, their objective is not to win the time slot (although, perhaps they could). Their objective is to make profit. Leno costs about one quarter of the least expensive scripted drama, so effectively NBC "wins" if their advertising revenues are any better than 25% of that of the show that wins the time slot.

Do be aware, though, that those aren't the only five hours being "lost" in that way... The CW has decided to cease operations on Sunday night. They actually had a five hour schedule on Sundays (5PM-10PM) though it began with mostly reruns... still there are a couple of hours of scripted programming that simply won't be programmed next year. So the overall amount of scripted programming is decreasing, a clear reflection of how much the original programming on TNT, USA, FX, etc., and on HBO and SHO are successfully stealing audience from broadcast networks.

To be fair, though, as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, after looking over the plans for the fall very briefly, I've concluded that there is just as much interesting programming planned for next fall as there was last fall. Perhaps Leno just focused NBC's attention regarding scripted programming to the 16 other hours they had to program (and, of course, CW's programming on Sunday is no great loss).

NBC won't have to tone Heroes down at all. The time threshold for programming standards and practices is 10PM, nationwide. And since all the networks broadcast the same show from 10PM-11PM Eastern at 9PM-10PM Central, effectively the rules have been that all primetime shows must comply with the same standards. It has been like that for years. The whole "family hour" thing was voluntary to start with, and didn't last long, because it wasn't profitable. For years, now, there have been many shows that have been broadcast before 8PM Central Time that are clearly not intended for children, i.e., How I Met Your Mother, with all its talk about casual sex and how drinking in a bar is so much a focus of the show; The Simpson (need I say more?); NCIS, with its depictions of violence; Reaper, which actually featured a consummated story-arc where a main character lusted after his step-sister; Big Brother, with very clear insinuations of sexual promiscuity taking place; etc.
 
Some details relevant to The Jay Leno Show came to light this weekend. Folks have been wondering whether NBC can actually improve its ratings in that time slot, with a show like The Jay Leno Show. That's really the wrong question, because there is no intention to improve their ratings -- the objective is to improve profitability. To that end, the question is what Nielsen rating would signify success? The answer was given by Jeff Zucker last week:

At a 1.8 rating among the young adult viewers that NBC seeks — a prescription for cancellation for a network drama — Mr. Leno “would be a home run,” said Jeff Zucker, the NBC Universal chief executive who engineered the Leno move.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/business/media/01leno.html?_r=1

The article also clarifies an estimate I gave earlier in another thread: I had said that The Jay Leno Show costs one quarter that of a typical prime time program. The reality is actually that it costs even less, closer to one fifth. So essentially, a 1.1 rating would still be a win.
 
Thursday
8:00-9:00 pm
__________CW: Vampire Diaries
Generally, when a television show is based on a book(s), I try to read the book(s) before the series begins. I had a hard time finding the books on which Vampire Diaries are based... then I realized I had to check out the teen books section of the bookstore. :rotfl:

These should be pretty light reading right? ;)

Has anyone else read these books? Is anyone looking forward to the series because of the books (or in spite of them)?
 
That might explain why ABC/Disney didn't give the program more of a chance...
You cannot over-emphasize this, especially going forward over the next few years. Back in the day, production companies didn't own television stations or networks. That changed in the Reagan years, if I recall correctly. Now, each of the broadcast networks are associated with their own production studios. Generally, they don't specifically favor their own programs: They will gladly snap up someone else's program if they think they'll make money off it. However, when it comes to taking further risks with something that is already shown to be a poor performer, they're going to give their own programming more of a chance, and drop other production companies' programs like a rock by comparison.

That's why you see Medium switching to CBS (who has always produced it) this fall, and Scrubs moving to ABC (who has always produced it) this fall. It is also why shows like Pushing Daisies and Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles was canned: They were produced by other companies, and the networks presenting them didn't feel like paying someone else for stuff that viewers didn't care enough to watch in great numbers.

Anyway, the "going forward over the next few years" part... As the value of viewership continues to deteriorate over the next few years, due to economic pressures, DVRs, and other diversions, look for networks to much more overtly favor their own shows, even to the extent that they'll program their own unscripted programming (like The Jay Leno Show, five nights a week) instead of going out to some production studio out there to get a good scripted program.
 












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