Teen Mom

I couldn't disagree with you more. I think all the moms care about there kids. Do I think they are perfect parents nope, but who is.

Why do you watch this show if it upsets you so much turn off the TV. We all know you hate Maci You love Ryan we get it :)

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I couldn't disagree with you more. I think all the moms care about there kids. Do I think they are perfect parents nope, but who is.

Why do you watch this show if it upsets you so much turn off the TV. We all know you hate Maci You love Ryan we get it :)

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This may be the first time I have agreed with you on a reallity tv thread. :lmao:
 
I got it that Butch went back to jail, but did I miss something? What happened? Catelynn and Tyler really do have it together despite where their family is situated in life. I feel so bad for Catelynn's' little brother!
 

How does Ryan deserve more rights then Maci? When Bentley is with Ryan he spends most of the time with his grandparents. When Maci picked Bentley up Ryan was standing outside but the only person Bentley said bye and I love you to was his grandma. Maci asked Bentley who he wanted to go with. The boy said daddy cause he wanted to go to Mimi's house. Ryans dad asked him about either going back to school or picking up a new trade. Ryan didn't want to do that. Maci on the other hand is running a household and going to school. She's not dropping off her son at 10:00 at night to go to Buffalo Wild Wings with friends. Most of the time when we see Bentley at Ryans parents house, Ryan is on the couch covered up with a blanket and his parents are dealing with Bentley. So please. Explain to me what makes Ryan the better parent?
 
How does Ryan deserve more rights then Maci? When Bentley is with Ryan he spends most of the time with his grandparents. When Maci picked Bentley up Ryan was standing outside but the only person Bentley said bye and I love you to was his grandma. Maci asked Bentley who he wanted to go with. The boy said daddy cause he wanted to go to Mimi's house. Ryans dad asked him about either going back to school or picking up a new trade. Ryan didn't want to do that. Maci on the other hand is running a household and going to school. She's not dropping off her son at 10:00 at night to go to Buffalo Wild Wings with friends. Most of the time when we see Bentley at Ryans parents house, Ryan is on the couch covered up with a blanket and his parents are dealing with Bentley. So please. Explain to me what makes Ryan the better parent?

I wouldn't say Maci is running a household, more like playing house, and wishing some guy would swoop in and rescue her. I am so surprised that Kyle is smart enough not to take the bait, at least not yet. She and Ryan are both lacking in their parenting skills, just in different areas :). They are kids, for goodness sake, no matter if being a mom or dad puts more responsibility on them.
 
I had my 1st child at 16. Owned my house at 20. I did it all on my own and that includes 4 years of college. I see Ryan with the opportunity to do better and he's still not motivated. That bothers me. Then there's Maci. She's not perfect. Hell none of us are. But she's trying. I respect that.

Maci has issues. But she also has goals. She's going back to school and pushing for a degree. The only goal I've seen Ryan have this season was figuring out how to dump his son off on his parents so he can go to buffalo wild wings at 10pm. Even FARRAH has a plan, but Ryan doesn't want to grow up. It's pathetic!
 
IF that true that is the best thing for Sophia, she needs stabilty and there is now way Farrah could have taken care of her and went to school full time. I think that show maturity on her part. It onle of the first things in a long time Farrah has done for Sophia and not Farrah
Well, I think she did what was easiest, best, most convenient for Farrah . . . and it just happens to be what's best for Sophia also. Good for Sophia, but the driving factor was Farrah.
So leaving her and not looking for a school with a culinary program in her area is a better plan? :confused3.
Google culinary school in Fort Lauderdale, and you'll see that only one exists -- and it's not special or prestigious. We have a branch near us, and I don't think it's accredited. Yeah, she could've done this same thing nearer to home.
Maci has honestly gotten on my nerves this season. She gets mad if Ryan goes out when he has Bentley, but it was ok if she wanted to go out with her friends and have her parents keep Bentley before she got back with Kyle.

And the switching back and forth about school, good grief.

Honestly, Farrah's mom should have just butt out about Farrah taking Sophia with her, let Farrah see how hard real life is with no support system around.

Catelyn and Tyler: does she still work at the one place? nails bed and breakfast,etc. and you know I am not sure but I think Tyler has only "been" with Catelyn and of course he can see himself with other people, he hasn't had much experience with that.

Amber: holy train wreck she needs some medication, seriously.
Maci whines about not being able to study /get things done with Bentley around . . . then she doesn't want him to go to Ryan's, where he is well cared for by Ryan's mom. She can't whine about both ways.

I agree that Farrah's mom should let her fall on her face, but she won't. She won't because of Sophia.

Yeah, I've wondered how these teens manage to support themselves in a manner that was impossible for me at that age . . . and I didn't have a child.

Why's Amber suddenly upset all the time about her sister who died? She's crying about it constantly these days, and it hasn't been mentioned in the previous two years?
Maci goodness, chill out with the bugging Kyle about what is their future. they just moved in together not long ago.
It's a big priority for all these girls -- at some point, every one of them has put the boyfriend above the baby. Obviously, it's a misplaced priority, but they don't grasp that.
That's a little harsh. I think the girls care about their kids, it's just difficult because they're so young.
Sure, they care about their children, but the children need so much more than JUST love from their moms.
Caitlyn and Tyler were idiots if they thought Brendon and Teresa was bringing that baby to their graduation.
Nah, not idiots. Being teens, they are still quite egocentric, and they see their high school graduation as an event of utmost importance to everyone. And they see themselves as a bigger part of Carly's life than they actually are. I do agree, of course, that that invitation was never going to be accepted.
How does Ryan deserve more rights then Maci? When Bentley is with Ryan he spends most of the time with his grandparents. When Maci picked Bentley up Ryan was standing outside but the only person Bentley said bye and I love you to was his grandma. Maci asked Bentley who he wanted to go with. The boy said daddy cause he wanted to go to Mimi's house. Ryans dad asked him about either going back to school or picking up a new trade. Ryan didn't want to do that. Maci on the other hand is running a household and going to school. She's not dropping off her son at 10:00 at night to go to Buffalo Wild Wings with friends. Most of the time when we see Bentley at Ryans parents house, Ryan is on the couch covered up with a blanket and his parents are dealing with Bentley. So please. Explain to me what makes Ryan the better parent?
Neither Maci nor Ryan's going to win any parenting awards. The child seems to be growing up just fine, but I think it's the grandparents' influence.
Maci has issues. But she also has goals. She's going back to school and pushing for a degree. The only goal I've seen Ryan have this season was figuring out how to dump his son off on his parents so he can go to buffalo wild wings at 10pm. Even FARRAH has a plan, but Ryan doesn't want to grow up. It's pathetic!
I think Maci's biggest issues revolve around pride and the desire to control other people's actions.

She has goals -- a journalism degree (which, by the way, recently topped the list of useless college degrees) from a community college -- but she isn't working towards those goals: She's failing out of community college /dropping classes because she can't handle them. Either her ability level is very low, or she isn't working at it.

I agree that Ryan has no desire to grow up. Why should he? He lives in a nice house, he drives a nice truck, his parents pay for everything, and they allow him to do whatever he pleases. Why grow up? Why bother to do for yourself things that other people will gladly do for you?
 
Ryan's parents are great people, but they need to grow a backbone when it comes to their son. Looks like Ryan is their only child, but at this rate that 19 year old boy will soon be a 30 year old man still lounging on their couch. Its a shame. Ryan has a great support system, he just doesn't have the sense to want more for himself and his child. My hubby and I were homeowners before we were able to buy alcohol, so IMO there's NO excuse why he can't get off his butt and make a life for himself and Bentley.
 
I'll mention the Teen Dad special 1st:
Tyler continues to amaze me with his maturity and attitude. I hope he truly does break the cycle of men in his family/life. I'm not sure what his aspirations are but I hope he uses the contacts that this show has given him and really goes far in life. I can totally see him as a speaker in schools or life coach.

I don't really care too much about any of the other 'dads'. Adam is gross-I can't stand to look at him-I really hope we don't have too see him too much next season.
It was nice when Ryan and Jo said they respected Kaitlyn's and Maci's new relationships. I hope that Jo guy grew up a bit!

Teen Mom finale:
Honestly I ff through most of it.
I think Farrah made a wise choice leaving Sophia but I have to question why she went to school in Fl in the 1st place.
Caitlin and Tyler's story made me so sad. Her mom really needs help. I'm glad they are there for the little brother.
Maci basically had no real story this season. Seems like things are going well with Kyle and she created weird drama all on her own. She is a good mom-maybe she needs to talk with a professional? She obviously carries a lot of guilt around.
Amber-I'm glad she's getting help-it's obvious her issues were around long before Leah and Gary. I believe she's better off without him-but he is a good dad.
 
50/50 custody AND child support????:confused3 :confused3:confused3:confused3

Why would a judge agree to that ?

Same reason they ever do - because Maci makes far more money (if reports about how much these chicks are bringing in are correct) than Ryan. Support awards are based on both how much time the child spends with each parent and on income.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I think all the moms care about there kids. Do I think they are perfect parents nope, but who is.

Why do you watch this show if it upsets you so much turn off the TV. We all know you hate Maci You love Ryan we get it

As someone else said, caring isn't much of anything; kids need much more than that. I do think they're the ones who really care, hence they sacrificed so she'd have a better life, unlike every other person on this mess.

As to why I watch it if I hate them... it's reality tv, that's the point. They don't cast shows full of awesome people you want to root for for a reason.

I had my 1st child at 16. Owned my house at 20. I did it all on my own and that includes 4 years of college. I see Ryan with the opportunity to do better and he's still not motivated. That bothers me. Then there's Maci. She's not perfect. Hell none of us are. But she's trying. I respect that.

Maci has issues. But she also has goals. She's going back to school and pushing for a degree. The only goal I've seen Ryan have this season was figuring out how to dump his son off on his parents so he can go to buffalo wild wings at 10pm. Even FARRAH has a plan, but Ryan doesn't want to grow up. It's pathetic!

She's not pushing for a degree, she's on her fourth or fifth semester of school and has racked up a whopping 8 credits. As much as someone said she's playing house, she's playing student. She seems to have 0 goals or ambition.

Well, I think she did what was easiest, best, most convenient for Farrah . . . and it just happens to be what's best for Sophia also. Good for Sophia, but the driving factor was Farrah.

Very much this. Also notice how Farrah, when she was making her big Magna Doodle decision, went on about how much time Sophia spends with Deborah and Michael now? I don't think much has changed since we got to see how Farrah used to pawn that kid off on them so she could go out every night.
 
Same reason they ever do - because Maci makes far more money (if reports about how much these chicks are bringing in are correct) than Ryan. Support awards are based on both how much time the child spends with each parent and on income.

You said he so try to get 50/50 custody.

If both parents have equal time with the child (one week with mom, one week with dad),then neither should receive child support.
 
You said he so try to get 50/50 custody.

If both parents have equal time with the child (one week with mom, one week with dad),then neither should receive child support.

Yes, I believe he should try for 50/50 custody because it's best for the kid, who loves both his parents.

As I said, support orders are based on both time spent and income. If one spouse makes an income vastly more than the other's, they can ask for support so that the child benefits from the excess income wherever the child is.

I do just want him to go after support to stick it to her, because I get the idea she may feel like men pay support and women don't, but he can put it in a college fund for Bentley, then everyone wins.
 
Yes, I believe he should try for 50/50 custody because it's best for the kid, who loves both his parents.

As I said, support orders are based on both time spent and income. If one spouse makes an income vastly more than the other's, they can ask for support so that the child benefits from the excess income wherever the child is.

I do just want him to go after support to stick it to her, because I get the idea she may feel like men pay support and women don't, but he can put it in a college fund for Bentley, then everyone wins.

Are you a stepmom?
 
Yes, I believe he should try for 50/50 custody because it's best for the kid, who loves both his parents.

As I said, support orders are based on both time spent and income. If one spouse makes an income vastly more than the other's, they can ask for support so that the child benefits from the excess income wherever the child is.

I do just want him to go after support to stick it to her, because I get the idea she may feel like men pay support and women don't, but he can put it in a college fund for Bentley, then everyone wins.

I never got that vibe from Ryan. :sad2:
 
I watched Teen Dads early this morning.

Corey: I felt so bad for him, he looked so lost. and when he talked about now he comes home to an empty house with the girls toys still there, that almost made me cry.

Adam (wangadang) he makes me want to barf, at least he had even 2 shirts on.

Joe: (grinch boy) makes me want to barf as well.

Tyler: Honestly, he needs to go out and explore life, Catelynn is way too needy and will only bring him down.

Ryan: his ego is still bruised that Maci is not with him.

I laughed when they said they weren't dating, I was like yea, maybe Dr. Quack should ask if they hook up and sure enough he did.

Gary: he just needs some counseling and stay out of a relationship with Amber, he is like an abused woman who keeps going back. not saying he is perfect, but Amber is chock full of nuts and needs some medication.


Back to the finale: it was still unclear to me why Butch went back to jail. Amber starting about her sister who died of SIDS, as another poster said why is she on about that now?
 
Are you a stepmom?

I'm guessing an angry/bitter baby daddy? Could be totally wrong, and obviously we'll never know as anyone can say anything on a forum, but that's what I've thought since I first started seeing those posts. They seem so angrily skewed "opinions."
 
I think part of Ryan's problem is he's still hung up on Maci, but she seems to have totally moved on.
 
You said he so try to get 50/50 custody.

If both parents have equal time with the child (one week with mom, one week with dad),then neither should receive child support.

That is just not how it works...and what does being a stepmom have to do with it? Before I had sole custody of my son my ex and I had shared custody and he paid child support.I AM a stepmom and my dh has joint custody and he pay child support every month with no complaint.
 












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