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Happy Birthday Mel!!!

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A lot of you guys have posted here at one time or another.. about people imposing on you, or you wondering if you should get involved.

SO here is my story.. I'll shorten this immensely.

We have friends... that have always called us when they needed money.
Why I still feel for these people I do not know. We loaned them more money than I want to disclose... THOUSANDS... to save their house from Foreclosure.
Always promising to pay us back. 3 weeks ago they were foreclosed upon.
This guy DID come into some money...and was SUPPOSED to pay us back.. but he did not.
He tried to settle with the mortgage company and they took his money... and he is STILL without a home.

His wife needs a Hysterectomy.. and they are evicted. He is ONCE AGAIN ASKING for $1500.00 for her COBRA so she can have the surgery.. AND so they can get into an apartment.



Mr Diz is having surgery tomorrow. I was wondering if you would send me $1000 to pay for this.:laughing:

Seriously, I think they are taking advantage of your generosity. They are not able to pay you back, so keep that in mind.

My sister was complaining to me that she feels they are frequently taken advantage of. Her dh grew up in a single parent household where he had to get a job at 14 to help his mom pay the bills. They send money to his sister who is married and has 2 kids (the sis lives in a mobile home, so they are not trying to live above their means) and his mother. Also, he has been approached several times by the congregation to help those in need because they know he won't say no. For example, one lady lost her job and has a few kids and was about to get her electricity cut off. So my bil paid off several of her bills. My sis and her dh never ask for the money back, but they are at the point that they feel taken advantage of. They never take vacations and she commented to me once that maybe they could if they weren't always giving other people money.

I think it is great that people who can afford to help others out do, but also believe once you feel taken advantage of it's time to stop.
 
Mr Diz is having surgery tomorrow. I was wondering if you would send me $1000 to pay for this.:laughing:

Seriously, I think they are taking advantage of your generosity. They are not able to pay you back, so keep that in mind.

My sister was complaining to me that she feels they are frequently taken advantage of. Her dh grew up in a single parent household where he had to get a job at 14 to help his mom pay the bills. They send money to his sister who is married and has 2 kids (the sis lives in a mobile home, so they are not trying to live above their means) and his mother. Also, he has been approached several times by the congregation to help those in need because they know he won't say no. For example, one lady lost her job and has a few kids and was about to get her electricity cut off. So my bil paid off several of her bills. My sis and her dh never ask for the money back, but they are at the point that they feel taken advantage of. They never take vacations and she commented to me once that maybe they could if they weren't always giving other people money.

I think it is great that people who can afford to help others out do, but also believe once you feel taken advantage of it's time to stop.
Well said. And giving people money isn't lending. It's a gift. :goodvibes
 

Sounds like Katt is gettting some great advice. That's wy I like coming here, because even when we have problems you all just listen and don't judge:hug:
 
I'm far too busy to quote, and since it's my DAY you'll all forgive me right?

Thank you (a million times) for all the birthday wishes! It means so much to me.

When I got home from lunch with my friend (which I needed OH SO bad!) there were flowers from Flowers Direct on the step! From my darling, Bob!

The card says: Happy Birthday Muffin! I know it's not much but it's all I could manage......for now. Love, "Bob"


Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Ok, gotta go fold some laundry. No change here, by the way. Everyone is done vomiting but they all look/act/seem pretty out of it.

LY Guys
MEL

PS. Katt, everyone's advice is good. If you feel resentful it's gone over to something other than giving because you WANT to...and that's not right.:lovestruc Hoping you make a decision you are at peace with.
 
Mr Diz is having surgery tomorrow. I was wondering if you would send me $1000 to pay for this.:laughing:
If I was your only source... and it was a dire emergency... I'd find it.



Look away if you don't want to read my religous stuff, people...:rolleyes1


Okay- It's also in the bible not to be a borrower or lender. You work so hard to not have debt, but you're allowing these people to owe you. I think you know in your heart it's not the right thing to do. They are using you and putting you guys in a position you know isn't right. :hug: I hope you don't mind my tough love, but I know you and I have similar views of things. :hug:

No matter what you decide, we'll all love you no matter what. :grouphug: :)
Yes Ma'am I am familiar..

. Katt, everyone's advice is good. If you feel resentful it's gone over to something other than giving because you WANT to...and that's not right.:lovestruc Hoping you make a decision you are at peace with.

As I meantioned... there is a lot of things INVOLVED here... including that fact that "Chris" ( I'll call him) keeps getting laid off... and his wife.. the SAME BAD LUCK. She is an Airline attendant.. currently with Delta.

HAD both of them had jobs when he came into some money earlier this year
I believe he would have paid us.. but he was unemployed.. as was she but still looking. So it scared him to pay us ( BTW he did pay back 1,600.00)
as it would any of us. He has not been able to keep a job since 2002.

He got a Job 3 months ago... BUT... It happened again last month.

A lot of my hurt/anger comes from the "Behind My BACK" money that Scott slipped him. When I cut him off.
This time... Scott told him that he had to call me. So far...NO CALL.

His wife has her Hysterrectomy scheduled for the 17th... She is the ONLY THING.. that is making me even consider doing this. She has 3 tumors they have found.
 
Sounds like Katt is gettting some great advice. That's wy I like coming here, because even when we have problems you all just listen and don't judge:hug:
::yes::
When I got home from lunch with my friend (which I needed OH SO bad!) there were flowers from Flowers Direct on the step! From my darling, Bob!
glad you got out of the house for a nice lunch!!

aaawwww, he's sweet and the flowers are beautiful .

His wife has her Hysterrectomy scheduled for the 17th... She is the ONLY THING.. that is making me even consider doing this. She has 3 tumors they have found.

okay, i can see why you are considering. i know you'll make the right decision for you. :hug:
 
Mel - Those flowers are beautiful. Did the vase come with or did you already have it? That NotBob is a keeper ::yes::

Katt - Just some more :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: for you!
 
I'm far too busy to quote, and since it's my DAY you'll all forgive me right?

Thank you (a million times) for all the birthday wishes! It means so much to me.

When I got home from lunch with my friend (which I needed OH SO bad!) there were flowers from Flowers Direct on the step! From my darling, Bob!

The card says: Happy Birthday Muffin! I know it's not much but it's all I could manage......for now. Love, "Bob"


Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Ok, gotta go fold some laundry. No change here, by the way. Everyone is done vomiting but they all look/act/seem pretty out of it.

LY Guys
MEL

PS. Katt, everyone's advice is good. If you feel resentful it's gone over to something other than giving because you WANT to...and that's not right.:lovestruc Hoping you make a decision you are at peace with.
I'm glad your day is looking up. :goodvibes

They're beautiful. :lovestruc I don't get flowers. :guilty: I can count on my fingers how many times K's brought me flowers. :sad2:

As I meantioned... there is a lot of things INVOLVED here... including that fact that "Chris" ( I'll call him) keeps getting laid off... and his wife.. the SAME BAD LUCK. She is an Airline attendant.. currently with Delta.

HAD both of them had jobs when he came into some money earlier this year
I believe he would have paid us.. but he was unemployed.. as was she but still looking. So it scared him to pay us ( BTW he did pay back 1,600.00)
as it would any of us. He has not been able to keep a job since 2002.

He got a Job 3 months ago... BUT... It happened again last month.

A lot of my hurt/anger comes from the "Behind My BACK" money that Scott slipped him. When I cut him off.
This time... Scott told him that he had to call me. So far...NO CALL.

His wife has her Hysterrectomy scheduled for the 17th... She is the ONLY THING.. that is making me even consider doing this. She has 3 tumors they have found.
Okay- so what about paying the bill directly for them afterwards? You know the money's going to the bill and she'll get her surgery. Can they apply for Medicaid? :confused3

Also, anyone who has not been able to hold a job for that long isn't having bad luck- they are doing a bad job at work. Someone in my family is struggling with no job. I feel bad for him/her. But he/she didn't lose the job during lay-offs. He/she did something wrong and got fired.
I guess I'm a meanie. :guilty: :confused3
 
Okay- so what about paying the bill directly for them afterwards? You know the money's going to the bill and she'll get her surgery. Can they apply for Medicaid? :confused3

Also, anyone who has not been able to hold a job for that long isn't having bad luck- they are doing a bad job at work. Someone in my family is struggling with no job. I feel bad for him/her. But he/she didn't lose the job during lay-offs. He/she did something wrong and got fired.

I guess I'm a meanie. :guilty: :confused3

What I would be doing is paying their Health Insurance... so it does not lapse BEFORE she has her surgery.

"Chris's" luck boils down to this. (BTW he's a salesman by trade. )
Last one hired.. first one fired.
He also has gone to work for two companies that I can think of that closed their doors.

Some of it is his fault. We tried to get him to work for us... just like we did.. straight comission... but he was afraid... and thought he NEEDED a salary. ( yeah we would have liked that too back in 2002)
HAD he worked for us.. he would most likely be pulling down 6 figures. Where he lives has more business that where we are. ( he's in NC)

He has a check coming from the State of NC for a Settlement against JK Harris for $5200. That should arrive in January.

Still not call from him
 
somehow I don't think you are going to get a call Katt. Sounds to me like he knows that you are not happy with the situation:confused3

Where is everyone? I'm bored
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I'm here! The MIL is feeling a bit less BAD, Gus is gaming (he said it helps to distract him) and poor SD is still feeling really awful.

I'm good. Did some laundry, dishes, etc. I read some of my book.


Sorry you're bored, Janet. What do you think Jo is doing right now???

MEL
 
Good Afternoon/Evening everybody!

I have spent the entire day laying in bed reading and now my vision is all fuzzy. I really should start wearing my glasses when I read. :rolleyes:

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Katt - Sounds like a sticky money situation. I really don't know what I would do in that situation considering past behaviour. I'm sure you will do what is best for all involved.
 
Stop now - for real?!?! :rotfl:

No lie :rotfl:

V said:
Who do you have down there? I'm with Brightt House.

Comcast. :mad:


Maybe we can meet for a drink? :)

Ohhh I'd like that!
We'll be in Epcot on the 15th ;)

Me! We ate there in August and it was really good. Basic sandwiches, and a Rueben to die for I would definitely make an ADR because it is not that big of a place, so seating is VERY limited.

Oooh Thanks Janet! :thumbsup2 Yeah I was eyeing the menu and it looked good.

I'm gonna try and take some pics of the city today so u all can see NYC in Winter. :)

:cloud9: Have a good day Kat!


They are beautiful! :lovestruc
I'm still crabby that mine were to thick to mail regular and it would cost $1.20 to mail each one. :mad:



Thanks Dawn (and Rachel). :goodvibes
They were fun to make, those are the ones for my Yahoo group that we always do a card exchange. I'm still making the Focker ones. ;)
I hope I can mail mine regular.....:confused:

The card says: Happy Birthday Muffin! I know it's not much but it's all I could manage......for now. Love, "Bob"

AWWWWWWWWWW :goodvibes

Katt:
I agree with a lot of what everyone else has said about your situation. Can you (or would you want to) talk with the wife and see what she says? Since "Chris" isn't calling.
I would do it for her (as long as helping them out doesn't put a strain on your family's finances), but I would also do what Dawn said and see if you can pay directly the insurance instead of give him the money. That way you know for sure that the money your giving is really going for that. Good luck with whatever you do decide to do. :hug:
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Not much going on, just got back from the meeting & interview (to replace the new guy that ended up quitting) at work.

I'm finishing up :laundy: and TRY to finish the rest of my cards.

Later guys! :hippie:
 
Question of the day: do you wear underwear with pantyhose? I got frustrated with visible panty lines the other day and it suddenly occurred to me... PANTYhose - maybe I'm not supposed to be putting another layer under there in the first place!! :idea:

I wear only one layer! :rolleyes1
 
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Aren't you near Hershey? We are heading up there for Christmas in Hershey this weekend. Should I expect BIG crowds?

Dang, you have a good memory. I'm near Hershey. There probably will be a decent crowd. I like going when they open that way we get the most popular rides in.

So is this what Christmas in Florida Looks Like?? :confused3

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I hope that Santa doesn't eat something with meat in it. :rotfl:
 
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