1. Really - a 22 year old has to nap to stay up all night - does he do that before a big party too? Sorry - he lost me there - at 22 we never even left for the bars before midnight.
2. Rich taking advantage of the middle class?!?!?!? Has he never been out on a black Friday - cause I can tell you - the rich people I know will be home sound asleep in their beds b/c their time is more valuable to them than the couple of bucks they will save on BF. In my experience, while there are plenty of wonderful nice people shopping...the rude, ignorant and definitely not rich are out in full force on black Friday.
Good points!
In all fairness, it wasn't until this year that businesses are really starting to open on Thanksgiving Day and not waiting until some wee early hour on Black Friday. I don't think it's too much that he expected to have the day off.
And if we as consumers don't respect the employees time by not shopping, they will get to a point where businesses are open all day on Thanksgiving. Is that what we really want? Do you want your family missing the holiday so someone can have the opportunity to shop that day?
I LOVE businesses that are open on Tofurky Day. Without a lot of family around here, without the urge to be with the family that IS here, and as vegetarians, the holiday is kinda boring! Also, I'm not that much into football, and DH is kind enough to not insist on making my ears bleed from the sound of the games...
DH and I met while working customer service at
amazon, where we absolutely knew that we would be working over the holidays. Heck, he was hired in october and I was hired in November...you KNOW we were working our rears off from the moment we were done with training!
I guess my biggest complaint would be that it seems that black friday is getting crazier by the year. People have died. It's scary crazy in these stores and as an associate/employee, you have little control. People can be animals. Fights break out all the time. You have people that haven't slept, some have been drinking, many are wired up to make it through. You have lines of 80 people where you have 5 TV's for example-
....
Next I expect that we will be open Christmas also as 364 days a year is not enough days. After all what would we do if we couldn't shop 24/7/365.
But isn't that the reason for the expanded hours? To try to calm everyone down? Of course it's not going to work, but I figured it was an attempt to spread out the madness.
And the 5 TVs thing...that lands squarely on the head of the store.
Yay for being open on xmas! I always appreciate places that are open then. I used to work those days and it was rewarding to help people. They were always so surprised that someone answered the phone...why did you call if you didn't think someone would be there, I always wondered...
ITA with all your points. And I'm with you on getting good deals in a less demanding way (online shopping works for me!)
Sure do hope you aren't ordering anything on the holidays, calling in (it's a very convenient time to call, since you're at home after all...) with questions, emailing them. You should expect it to not be picked, not be packed, not be shipped, not move an inch if it's already in transit. Accept happily that it will be there at least a day later than you wanted it to be. etc etc etc.
If you don't want people at work on those days, then you shouldn't expect ANYONE to be at work on those days. They will, of course, be at work. They will, of course, be picking and packing and shipping and moving your orders. But don't expect it, since you didn't want them to work on those days.
The bottom line is that this guy at Target is not wanting to work the holiday, but for every employee that does NOT want to work the holiday, there ARE others who ARE willing to work the holiday, either for the extra pay, to help their fellow workers, to avoid family drama, because they don't celebrate the holiday, because they have no family, or whatever. Sure, some employees have to work when they don't want to, but don't we ALL have days where we have to work despite not wanting to? When you take a retail job you KNOW that weekends and holidays are part of the deal. If you are not willing to do them, you take another job.
Yep!
PP indicated Target is having employees stock shelves on Thanksgiving.
Sounds a heck of a lot better than dealing with the public.
We need to get away from greed and back to family.
Get BACK to it? When were we IN it? When when when? There have ALWAYS been people working on these holidays. Maybe middle class, office job types didn't see them, but they were there, toiling away. Out of sight, I suppose.
Also some businesses its not really greed. Their is a DD near my sister that a few people got really loud and rude in (its attached to a gas station) about them being open on Christmas.
And what were those people doing there, at a business, on that day, if they didn't want people to be working on that day?
And as for Disney being closed, wouldn't it be great for all those people traveling to Florida during school vacation week in December to go to Florida, get there and have WDW closed...no restaurant to eat in, no mousekeeping, no bus transportation, no park to go to. Sit in your room quietly with nothing to do so the employees can stay home.
Never happen.
It would go further than that. They woudl have to leave. Because the hotel employees, down to maintenance, would have to be home. And you can't be there if no one's there. So everyone would have to pack up and leave, then come back the following day. Where would they go? What would they do? Who knows?
You're right he's not a victim. He's actively trying to change some thing he sees as unfair. Sorry but I actually have more respect for people who try to better their situation than those who just "suck it up" and "accept any type of treatment". Where do we draw the line? some one harrasses you, do you "suck it up"? Your job puts you in a unsafe or unhealthy situation? "suck it up".
He's just doing an online petition. He *wrote* for a few minutes. And put it online.
This is NOT impressive.
All he's doing is "telling on" his company. Call me crazy, but don't most people on the Dis HATE "telling on" things?
If he wanted to effect change, he should have gone through his normal channels. With his employer.
Because with this petition, all he's doing is broadcasting that he doesn't need that job, he doesn't CARE about that job. This doesn't even affect him!
I wonder how all of his coworkers who don't actually CARE that they are working that day feel about it? Because there will be some. As someone who used to volunteer for all the days that others didn't want, it REALLY bothered me when people tried to close the whole place down. There were many of us, for many different reasons, who LIKED working on those days, and we didn't want that taken away from us.
