Swearing in Disney

[keri125]

Yes, that was a case of classic overkill.

Swearing doesn't offend me. I've done it myself, but, there is a time and a place for everything. Constant swearing is a sign of being, as I said, classless and having no self respect. Big deal, you know a dirty word, I am so impressed! We all learned them before middle school. Then we grew up! We thought enough of ourselves to use them when appropriate and use other real grown up words to express ourselves.

Constant swearing in public just makes a person look uneducated. It does serve to draw attention to oneself though and that might be the key reason.

Couldn't agree more. This is exactly what I was going to write. I'm not necessarily offended by swearing, per se, but I do think it is the product of a lazy mind. I have had conversations with my son in the past about when/where it is appropriate to swear, and sometimes in the car, if he's upset or angry about something, he'll ask if he can use a swear word. (He's 9.) I always tell him "no," that he is smart enough to think of another word, and he does.
I do think that as a society that is growing by leaps and bounds we do have an obligation to other members of society to practice good manners, as much as can be reasonably expected. We are not isolated any longer and it is important for people to learn to get along. An attitude of "I can do what I want, and if you don't like it, go away" is not conducive to a functioning society. Societal norms do change, like acceptance of tattoos, etc, but I think it is important for some things to remain outside of what is acceptable. A tattoo in and of itself is not offensive to me; a tattoo that depicts women (or men) in a disrespectful manner is. I would think this is common sense, but someone told me several years ago that common sense is no longer common, and I think that is true.
The remark about the point of swearing (repeatedly) being used to draw attention to yourself has merits as well. I'm constantly reminded when I go out in public of the song "Loud" from the play Matilda. It is spot on the way most people act.

 

[Hannathy]

You're kidding right? If someone has stood in line near you for 30 minutes and then you start swearing, they should take their kids and go to the end of the line to get away from you? Wow

No they should point out to their kids how stupid and silly the person sounds that they have to rely on curse words to express themselves and how limited their vocabulary must be. Also if that is how they would want others to think of them if they ever decide to talk like that .

I will curse, but if every other word is a curse word then they loose all of the value they have in a sentence. They have lost their impact that they were being used for in the first place.

 

[Arsenal1982]

You're kidding right? If someone has stood in line near you for 30 minutes and then you start swearing, they should take their kids and go to the end of the line to get away from you? Wow

That or simply ignore my private conversation. As I stated earlier, I don't swear at the top of my lungs. But I am entitled to have a private convo with friends and family if we swear, we swear. Bring some earmuffs for the kids.

 

[moon]

And you're point?
Refinement, correct behavior and gentle manners can mean all sorts of things depending on who you ask.
I can guarantee you that even the Queen of England herself has said a swear word at least once in her life. Does that mean she's not a "lady"?
Just because you don't swear doesn't make you any more intelligent or classy or refined than someone who does.

Already answered above

 

[Arsenal1982]

I thought it was pretty clear, but OK

Part of being "a man whose conduct conforms to a high standard of propriety or correct behavior" or "a woman of refinement and gentle manners" is being considerate of those around you and not do things which make them uncomfortable.

Is the point clear now?

And I would argue that part of being "a man whose conduct conforms to a high standard of propriety or correct behavior" or "a woman of refinement and gentle manners" is someone who minds their own business and doesn't believe that their own personal wishes are more important than those of someone else.

 

[moon]

And believe me, there are people who don't swear. I know lots. I'm one of them.

I have no reason to believe Queen Elizabeth swears. I've never know or read that she swears. And why is that? Because she's a lady. After all who better than her to say, "if you don"t like me swearing, get out of the line and go away"

But she doesn't act that way, because she's a lady.

Thanks for proving my point

 

[ICF]

That or simply ignore my private conversation. As I stated earlier, I don't swear at the top of my lungs. But I am entitled to have a private convo with friends and family if we swear, we swear. Bring some earmuffs for the kids.

If other people can hear you, your conversation isn't really private.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

So it's not judgmental to say that just because someone uses a swear word that they aren't a gentleman/lady?

The definition of gentleman and lady given in my earlier post, which you quoted, defined both as a person who does their best to make sure everyone around them is as comfortable as possible. Would you suggest that a person who uses language they themselves admit others could find offensive and then says that people who don't like it can move elsewhere is really trying to make those around them as comfortable as possible?

 

[teambeaman]

Cursing doesn't have the negative stigma to some as others. I'd rather be around people who curse than people who can't MYOB.

Awesome, completely agree!

 

[skylizard]

Already answered above

Um no, not answered at all.
If Queen Elizabeth says a swear word, does that mean she's not a lady?
If Prince William drops a swear word, does that mean he's not a gentleman?

You're making a sweeping generalization and coming off as being quite snobbish and holier-than-though.

 

[Wendy31]

And I would argue that part of being "a man whose conduct conforms to a high standard of propriety or correct behavior" or "a woman of refinement and gentle manners" is someone who minds their own business and doesn't believe that their own personal wishes are more important than those of someone else.

So why are your "own personal wishes" of swearing & cursing more important than the wishes of those around you who don't want to hear it or don't want their kids to hear it?

This is what common courtesy is... we conduct ourselves in reasonable ways to be the least offensive we can to those around us.

 

[skylizard]

And believe me, there are people who don't swear. I know lots. I'm one of them.

I have no reason to believe Queen Elizabeth swears. I've never know or read that she swears. And why is that? Because she's a lady. After all who better than her to say, "if you don"t like me swearing, get out of the line and go away"

But she doesn't act that way, because she's a lady.

Thanks for proving my point

You didn't prove any point. I'd bet a million dollars that the Queen has used a swear word at least once in her lifetime.

 

[Wendy31]

You didn't prove any point. I'd bet a million dollars that the Queen has used a swear word at least once in her lifetime.

I'm sure Queen Elizabeth has cursed a time or two. Who hasn't? But, in her every day language in public w/ other people present, she doesn't.

"Oh goodness! I've seemed to have dropped my blankety-blank kerchief. Would you be a dear & pick that blankety-blank thing up for me?"

I don't think so.

 

[Arsenal1982]

So why are your "own personal wishes" of swearing & cursing more important than the wishes of those around you who don't want to hear it or don't want their kids to hear it?

This is what common courtesy is... we conduct ourselves in reasonable ways to be the least offensive we can to those around us.

Once again, I'm having a conversation with my group. It has nothing to do with you. You're the one who is interjecting your own wishes as to what I can and can't discuss and in what manner I discuss it.

 

[moon]

You didn't prove any point. I'd bet a million dollars that the Queen has used a swear word at least once in her lifetime.

How would you know that? And let's say she has. Why doesn't she swear in public? Isn't that what we are discussing, swearing in public?

I'll say she doesn't swear in public because she's a lady

 

[skylizard]

I'm sure Queen Elizabeth has cursed a time or two. Who hasn't? But, in her every day language in public w/ other people present, she doesn't.

"Oh goodness! I've seemed to have dropped my blankety-blank kerchief. Would you be a dear & pick that blankety-blank thing up for me?"

I don't think so.

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And believe me, there are people who don't swear. I know lots. I'm one of them.

I have no reason to believe Queen Elizabeth swears. I've never know or read that she swears. And why is that? Because she's a lady. After all who better than her to say, "if you don"t like me swearing, get out of the line and go away"

But she doesn't act that way, because she's a lady.

Thanks for proving my point

The whole point is that just because someone uses a swear word every once in a while, doesn't make them any less intelligent or classy or refined than the next person.

I've never met someone who uses a swear word for every other word in a sentence. People like that are very rare.
Everything in moderation. It's rare that I ever hear someone swearing at Disney. Most do it privately and quietly amongst their friends or family. And there's nothing wrong with that if those friends/family aren't offended by it. To each his own.
But to try and take some moral high ground just because you chose not to swear? Please. Get over yourself.

 

[penn19]

I don't care if people cuss, just use common sense. Don't drop the F bomb around little kids and older people. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.

People act like they were raised by wolves.

 

[Disneyfreak001]

I can understand if you swear now and again but i have been on teams with people who swear every other word and i am just like really? you can't think of anything else to say to make yourself sound kind of intelligent?

 

[moon]

aparently this person:




The whole point is that just because someone uses a swear word every once in a while, doesn't make them any less intelligent or classy or refined than the next person.

I've never met someone who uses a swear word for every other word in a sentence. People like that are very rare.
Everything in moderation. It's rare that I ever hear someone swearing at Disney. Most do it privately and quietly amongst their friends or family. And there's nothing wrong with that if those friends/family aren't offended by it. To each his own.
But to try and take some moral high ground just because you chose not to swear? Please. Get over yourself.

Why the personal attack? There's no need for that.

Where are not discussing swearing privately. We're discussing swearing in public where other people can hear you. And if you are in a line (such at the grocery store or A Disney ride) there's no way to avoid listening. This is what this thread is about

And you are the one who brought up Queen Elizabeth. She has never been known to swear in public. And she's the definition of what a lady is.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I don't care if people cuss, just use common sense. Don't drop the F bomb around little kids and older people. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.

People act like they were raised by wolves.

This is all I'm saying. Some things said in private aren't necessarily appropriate for all ears in a public setting (and I'm not just referring to cuss words here). I believe that things work out best when we would all just do our best to make sure those around us are as comfortable as possible.