Stuck on 7DMT

[JZCubed]

We were stuck at the last brake before the cottage the ride was over. Yet the kid kept screaming I felt like I was in the twilight zone. He was probably 10-12. Just again I have seen a lot but never a parent literally reinforce bad behavior for 15 mins while others are asking her/him please stop. I think she really found it funny, which is the sad part.

In just the few posts on this Thread, there are plenty of examples that other people have given as to why your assumption about the parent might not be as nefarious as you perceived.

Describing a 10-12 year old screaming uncontrollably for no apparent reason could also be describing a parent who has found a way (laughing) to otherwise gain control of far more frequent uncontrollable situations.

Look, I was not there, you were. But making assumptions about people from one episode in their life just does not work for me.

I can cite two examples of my own at Disney:

1.) The child kicking my child at Turtle Talk. After I pointed my finger at the kicking child did the parents take notice of anything. And then these parents were ready to have me arrested for threatening their child. Of course, their child apparently had emotional issues and I was to somehow know. Regardless, they demanded my apology, and yet offered none to my child - the one who was repeatedly kicked. To this day, my child will not go on the Nemo Ride that leads to Turtle Talk. I get to tell my story, those other parents have to live with their added burdens.

2.) An adult at Fantasmic refused to turn off her blinking ears that were just short of a strobe light. I asked her to turn them off for the show, as did two other people. Did she annoy everyone 20 feet around her - you betcha'. At this point, no place to go other than leave the show. Maybe she did not speak English. Maybe she was deaf. Maybe she was just too old to care. Maybe she was just a jerk. I get to tell my story, she gets to live with being a deaf, non-English speaking, Alzheimer suffering....jerk. Or maybe she was just wearing a product sold to her by Disney.

You can certainly be annoyed at the poor parenting skills of others, but never assume that every annoying action and reaction of others turns out exactly as you hope or want them to be.

"There but by the grace of God go I."

 

[firecracker725]

This reminds me of an incident on public transportation in my city the other day. A mother boarded a very crowded tram with a child who was screaming bloody murder. She was doing something with her phone and completely ignoring the child, and then something amazing happened...every adult around that child started shhh-ing and trying to soothe the boy. One guy even started singing to him. The mother never looked up, but the child stopped crying.

I don't know if there's a point to this really, except to say that here there seems to be a public responsibility to keep children happy. People could have kept rolling their eyes and suffering through the screams, but instead they did something to help and made it a much more pleasant journey for all involved.

 

[maxiesmom]

I don't know why posting that a child screaming for 15 minutes deserves a lecture. I would be the OP knows the difference between screaming for fun or to annoy others and screaming in fear and horror. And I bet they know the difference between a laugh that is a nervous laugh and one from a parent who thinks their child is being funny.

Good grief people, stop making excuses for bad behavior. Or at the very least stop berating those who find the behavior annoying.

 

[lovethattink]

We were stuck in an elevator, not at Disney, and my son freaked out. He has cognitive disabilities and he was processing the situation way different than me. I'm claustrophobic and was trying really hard to hold it together. Once he was calm enough to talk about it, he explained that he was in fear for his life. He thought he would die because we didn't have any food or drink with us. From science class, he knew the basic necessities and was freaking because we were lacking some.

When he was freaking out, there was no way to calm him at first. There was no reasoning with him. I sat down on the floor once I had contact with the outside and they knew we were stuck.

He continued til he was tired out. Then sat on the floor too. We played games, sang songs, talked about our situation and what would help and what wouldn't. It was then we could talk about how panicking won't open the door any faster than staying calm. We also couldn't hear the people trying to communicate with us from the outside with him so loud.

We have been on a few elevators since. I keep fruit and water in my back pack and that makes it bearable for him. We've been stuck in a few attractions since. His first concern is do we have food and drink in the backpack. Yes, we do. And glow sticks, fidget toys, ear plugs, enough things to do for a couple hours, because you just never know.

Maybe the yelling kid on 7dmt was beyond reason too? Maybe his perception of the situation was way off key? Doesn't make it any less annoying to those around. There's no way of knowing if someone has a hidden disability.

We've been stuck a few times by the cottage. I think it's pretty normal, seems to happen most times we ride it, and we've come to expect it.

20 minutes seems to be a magic number to reset a ride? Several times been stuck on splash mt. Usually just 20 minutes, but once for 40. Test track as well. Maelstrom was our only attraction to be evacuated from.

 

[Toffeewoffy]

My 20-year-old DD used to freak out in certain situations. In fact, she even had a major meltdown as we were trying to get off the (mostly empty) Disney bus at Pleasure Island back in February. She was screaming and jumping up and down like a lunatic. In fact, the worst episode I've seen in a long time (over tired). I have learned over the years how to deal with this. There are three words I say loudly to people around us, "Sorry, she's autistic." I then rode my ECV off the bus and snapped at her to "... get off the bloody bus!!"

There's nothing else you can do. Is it annoying for other people? You betcha. Is it annoying for me? Oh, God, yes! Is there anything I can do about it? No.

However, I don't ignore DD, nor do I laugh at her. That, in my mind, just stokes up the episode as the child can very easily think they're being mocked. And there's nothing an autistic child (or adult, for that matter) hates more than thinking they're being mocked.

On the same trip (a few days earlier) we rode ToT. We were in the same lift car as several teens, most of who went to the back. We had a young man taking up the 3rd seat next to DD in the front row. Now, he was over-excited and freaked DD out because of his behaviour, but he was happy and harmless so she did the rolling eyes thing to me and we just chatted to him when he asked us questions. We'd barely left the lift shaft to go into the corridor before some of the girls in the back started to scream. I shouted back, "Wait for it! We haven't even started yet!" Everyone laughed and they stopped screaming.

... until we hit the lift shaft proper and we all joined in.

But I think most of us have been in a queue where there's been a child who was too terrified to ride but was being forced to by their parents. Parents - why do you do this? It's one thing to encourage the child and say how he's a big boy now and he'll probably love it when he's on. Also, it's not really scary (in our case it was Haunted Mansion). What you should NOT do is just tell the child he's being a baby and not to be so childish. God sake - this little boy couldn't have been more than 5!

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I don't know why posting that a child screaming for 15 minutes deserves a lecture. I would be the OP knows the difference between screaming for fun or to annoy others and screaming in fear and horror. And I bet they know the difference between a laugh that is a nervous laugh and one from a parent who thinks their child is being funny.

Good grief people, stop making excuses for bad behavior. Or at the very least stop berating those who find the behavior annoying.

My thoughts, exactly.

 

[MaleficentRN]

12.) An adult at Fantasmic refused to turn off her blinking ears that were just short of a strobe light. I asked her to turn them off for the show, as did two other people. Did she annoy everyone 20 feet around her - you betcha'. At this point, no place to go other than leave the show. Maybe she did not speak English. Maybe she was deaf. Maybe she was just too old to care. Maybe she was just a jerk. I get to tell my story, she gets to live with being a deaf, non-English speaking, Alzheimer suffering....jerk. Or maybe she was just wearing a product sold to her by Disney.

You do realize these are Glow with the Show ears and they are meant to be worn during Fantasmic, Wishes and Osborne Lights as they are synchronized to light up during those shows.

 

[MaleficentRN]

I don't know why posting that a child screaming for 15 minutes deserves a lecture. I would be the OP knows the difference between screaming for fun or to annoy others and screaming in fear and horror. And I bet they know the difference between a laugh that is a nervous laugh and one from a parent who thinks their child is being funny.

Good grief people, stop making excuses for bad behavior. Or at the very least stop berating those who find the behavior annoying.

 

[tim123]

Good grief people, stop making excuses for bad behavior. Or at the very least stop berating those who find the behavior annoying.

Correctomondo!
The kid is not at fault. The parent laughing is an inconsiderate narcissist.
Been ALL around the world my friends….
In much of the rest of the planet you will not see this.
Once went to the opera in the Chech republic with my 70 year old Dad.
In front of us were three kids who sat trough 4 hours of OPERA and never so much as made a peep. I think they actually enjoyed it.
Its called discipline. Something long gone from this here side of the pond.

 

[pkondz]

Oh no, now you've done it!! Here comes 20+ pages of parade etiquette "discussion"!!

That's just what I thought! Hasn't happened yet, though. (fingers crossed)

I witnessed some similar things this past week. One girl was having a total meltdown because she didn't want to go on test track and she shrieked through the entire queue. Another poor boy screamed and cried the entire time we were on dinosaur. He was scared to death. And while we're on the subject, can I just add this: spoiler alert - your young child does not want to sit through the show. Any show. Stop trying. It won't end well for you or those around you. Thanks.

I wish parents would stop trying to force little Timmy on rides he doesn't want to go on.
"But I know he'll love it!"
When I went with DDs 4 & 8, we never set foot on any of the "good" rides.
I did however ride Carpets... 7 times in a row.... and Figment about 4 times. (I don't remember... I've blanked out the traumatic event)
But both girls loved the trip.

I suspect those parents who feel their child must ride RNR or TOT or even HM, no matter how much the child is screaming that they don't want to, are the same parents who have a "sink or swim" mentality.
"Toss Timmy in the pool! He'll learn.... oops.... Oh, well. Guess we can always have another one."

That's when you turn around and scream really loudly in their faces. That happened to me on POTC so I began to scream as if I were being murdered. They stopped. (and so did I)

This reminds me of an incident on public transportation in my city the other day. A mother boarded a very crowded tram with a child who was screaming bloody murder. She was doing something with her phone and completely ignoring the child, and then something amazing happened...every adult around that child started shhh-ing and trying to soothe the boy. One guy even started singing to him. The mother never looked up, but the child stopped crying.

I don't know if there's a point to this really, except to say that here there seems to be a public responsibility to keep children happy. People could have kept rolling their eyes and suffering through the screams, but instead they did something to help and made it a much more pleasant journey for all involved.

Reminds me of a Keanu Reeves quote from Parenthood:
"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any ***expletive*** be a father."

You do realize these are Glow with the Show ears and they are meant to be worn during Fantasmic, Wishes and Osborne Lights as they are synchronized to light up during those shows.

"Yes ma'am! We have these wonderful ears that you can buy that are designed to integrate seamlesly with all the best that Disney has to offer!"
"Wow! How much!"
"It's a steal at only $25."
"Okay! I'll take one!"
(money exchanged)
"Just one more thing, now that you own one of these beauties..."
"Yes?"


"You can't wear them."

 

[prudence64]

You do realize these are Glow with the Show ears and they are meant to be worn during Fantasmic, Wishes and Osborne Lights as they are synchronized to light up during those shows.

Agreed. If you can't stand the glow with the show ears, you shouldn't go to the show. They are purchased exactly to wear at the shows and you shouldn't be asking people to turn them off.

 

[ArwenMarie]

We were stuck at the last brake before the cottage the ride was over. Yet the kid kept screaming I felt like I was in the twilight zone. He was probably 10-12. Just again I have seen a lot but never a parent literally reinforce bad behavior for 15 mins while others are asking her/him please stop. I think she really found it funny, which is the sad part.

Hmm, that's on the older side to scream like that. And that's not a bad place to get stuck really. That is odd (sad?) if she really found it funny for any reason.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Maybe the yelling kid on 7dmt was beyond reason too? Maybe his perception of the situation was way off key? Doesn't make it any less annoying to those around. There's no way of knowing if someone has a hidden disability.

We've been stuck a few times by the cottage. I think it's pretty normal, seems to happen most times we ride it, and we've come to expect it.

20 minutes seems to be a magic number to reset a ride? Several times been stuck on splash mt. Usually just 20 minutes, but once for 40. Test track as well. Maelstrom was our only attraction to be evacuated from.

That's what this situation sounds like a bit to me. If the child was 10-12, that's sort of on the end of being age-appropriate and sounds more like something else was going on with him as well. I don't know why the mother would be laughing in a case like that, but she might not have been able to calm him right there.

 

[ArwenMarie]

dupe

 

[lovethattink]

Correctomondo!
The kid is not at fault. The parent laughing is an inconsiderate narcissist.
Been ALL around the world my friends….
In much of the rest of the planet you will not see this.
Once went to the opera in the Chech republic with my 70 year old Dad.
In front of us were three kids who sat trough 4 hours of OPERA and never so much as made a peep. I think they actually enjoyed it.
Its called discipline. Something long gone from this here side of the pond.

Not necessarily. My son sat through his voice teacher's senior recital completely memorized by the music which was just her singing opera. He sits spellbound during any musical. Has nothing to do with discipline but with theater being an area of hyperfocus.

But became ill from anxiety watching Lights Motor Action and we had to leave the park and he was spent the rest of the day.

Some people's brains are just wired differently.

For someone aged 10 to 12, screaming 15 minutes is not a typical reaction.

Sounds like the parent could benefit from the book The Explosive Child: A New Approach for Understanding and Parenting, Easily Frustrated, "Chronically Inflexible" Children.

For OP, I hope you got yourself checked out. Hitting your head then throwing up later sounds like a possible concussion.

 

[tim123]

Not necessarily. My son sat through his voice teacher's senior recital completely memorized by the music which was just her singing opera. He sits spellbound during any musical. Has nothing to do with discipline but with theater being an area of hyperfocus.

But became ill from anxiety watching Lights Motor Action and we had to leave the park and he was spent the rest of the day.

Some people's brains are just wired differently.

For someone aged 10 to 12, screaming 15 minutes is not a typical reaction.

Sounds like the parent could benefit from the book The Explosive Child: A New Approach for Understanding and Parenting, Easily Frustrated, "Chronically Inflexible" Children.

For OP, I hope you got yourself checked out. Hitting your head then throwing up later sounds like a possible concussion.

i was being coy really.
None of us will really know why the little boy screamed so uncontrollably. It could be any numberer of things..including autism…
Hard to really blame anyone…
But if I were to guess from the OPs discription the mother was not empathic or concerned with OTHERS….more and more a fair discretion of our current society.

 

[MsMagical]

That sounds hard for everyone. I'm wondering if a better response to this on the part of the other riders might be to check in with the mother to see if he was okay. Is there anything they could do to help him or her?. Obviously, there wouldn't be much to help with but turning around and demanding a hysterical person to stop being hysterical is, at best, ineffective. Perhaps just showing the parent that you are affected and that you care about a fellow human being would have helped them both. As previously mentioned, no one knows that family's story but we can all choose to react with empathy if we want to.

 

[kandb]

Why are people on here, including the OP, saying the child was having "bad behavior"? I very much doubt a 10-12 year old would be crying and screaming unless he felt very fearful or panicky. So many judgemental people on here who know for sure that he was just having bad behavior. I understand that it was annoying to listen to but some children/people have issues. As far as the mother laughing, that's kind of sad. Either she was exhibiting a panicky behavior or she is not a very sensitive mother for trying to help her son.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

Why are people on here, including the OP, saying the child was having "bad behavior"? I very much doubt a 10-12 year old would be crying and screaming unless he felt very fearful or panicky. So many judgemental people on here who know for sure that he was just having bad behavior. I understand that it was annoying to listen to but some children/people have issues. As far as the mother laughing, that's kind of sad. Either she was exhibiting a panicky behavior or she is not a very sensitive mother for trying to help her son.

Or the kid thought it was funny to scream at the top of his lungs and the mother agreed with him. I've been on rides with kids who clearly thought it was just funny to scream bloody murder. I've been on Tower of Terror when a person would scream as soon as the doors closed and the look at his parents with a big grin on his face. Happens on Haunted Mansion, as well. Now, I wasn't there, but with how the OP described it, and since the mother thought it was funny and wasn't trying to calm the child, I am lead to believe that they fall into the category of kids and parents who think acting scared by screaming is a funny thing to do. Could be wrong.

 

[maxiesmom]

Why are people on here, including the OP, saying the child was having "bad behavior"? I very much doubt a 10-12 year old would be crying and screaming unless he felt very fearful or panicky. So many judgemental people on here who know for sure that he was just having bad behavior. I understand that it was annoying to listen to but some children/people have issues. As far as the mother laughing, that's kind of sad. Either she was exhibiting a panicky behavior or she is not a very sensitive mother for trying to help her son.

I've been stuck near teenagers who thought it was fun to scream though Illuminations. Some people that do it think they are being funny.