SSR ... why are points less than other resorts

[sdamico71]

Just curious..
Why are the points at SSR less than at the other resorts (VWL, BVW preferred, BCV) The only ones that are less points than SSR are OKW and BWV standard view.
I would have thought the points would be at least comparable to the ones above because of the newness of the resort.

 

[MelissathePooh]

Size and location. I think its because of the size of the resort - when its completed it will be huge. That is how it was explained to us. I also think that the location may have something to do with it. Although its a good location and has a lot of positives, it isn't as deluxe or convenient a location as BW, BC or WL. JMHO

If it was a regular new resort instead of a DVC I wouldn't expect it to have the same rates as a monorail or Epcot resort - I would expect it to be lower because of the size and location. Wouldn't mean it isn't deluxe necessarily, just a different tier of deluxe.

 

[spiceycat]

Location - BWV and BCV you can walk or boat to Epcot and Studios - VWL you can boat to MK.

 

[jaysue]

location, location, location

thanks
jaysue

 

[Disney Doll]

I would say the location, just as OKW point values are less due to location.

Many folks like the convenience of being able to walk/boat to at least one of the major parks, hence the higher point values for BCV,BWV,VWL.

We own 2 contracts at OKW, and have always liked the relaxed, off-the-beaten-path atmosphere. I suspect SSR will be the same feel. If you're a shopper or a DD perosn, I think SSR is ideal!!!!!

IMHO, WDW is getting so that nothing is way off the beaten path though.

 

[DeeP]

We own 2 contracts at OKW, and have always liked the relaxed, off-the-beaten-path atmosphere. I suspect SSR will be the same feel

SSR is going to be a very interesting resort. There will be areas of this resort that has the off the beaten path atmosphere but it will also have areas that are very much in the midst of the action. The buildings they are working on now are very close to DTD/PI etc. action.
The difference in points is that SSR, like OKW is not close(within walking distance or a very short boatride away) to a major theme park like BCV, BWV, or VWL are.

 

[kcashner]

Another point is that DVC didn't have to put in a lot of the infrastructure for the SSR. It was a leftover from the old Disney Institute. Anything we didn't have to build saved us money!

 

[DeeP]

What do you mean the infrastructure is leftover from Disney Institute? I thought SSR are brand new buildings from the ground up, No?????

 

[kweaver]

The units with the actual villas, pool house and lobby/restaurant area are brand new, but the spa, cinema, sales center (??), etc. were left over from the Disney Institute days. They are being remodeled.

You can get an idea of what they look like in Doc's latest photos...I'll have to search for the link.

 

[DeeP]

But the Spa, cinema, sales center etc are the extras, the frills. I doubt the existence of these things,and considering the need for remodeling of these things; have significantly brought down the price of SSR.

 

[kweaver]

DeeP - true...the spa, cinema, etc. are extras that the other DVC resorts do not have. Here are the photos:

http://disneydoc.homestead.com/ssr1203.html

I'm not exactly sure what, if anything, was located on the property where the new SSR buildings are currently being built. I'm sure someone here can (or already has) answer that.

If there were buildings there, then obviously the land was already cleared, and there was possibly sewer and other main systems (water and electric infrastructure) in place. Of course, that also means that they had to tear down the old structures...which costs $$ as well. However, the roads, walkways, fireworks viewing area and some landscaping was already there, so that was a major bonus.

FWIW, I really hope they use the cinema to show Disney films each night, as they do at Fort Wilderness. I think it would be a great perk!

 

[Granny]

Originally posted by sdamico71
Just curious..
Why are the points at SSR less than at the other resorts (VWL, BVW preferred, BCV) The only ones that are less points than SSR are OKW and BWV standard view.
I would have thought the points would be at least comparable to the ones above because of the newness of the resort.

I think the point system is lower to help the sales pitch. Same reason I believe they went to a 50 year right-to-use contract.

Obviously, Disney would like to sell the DVC resorts for as much as they can and keep sales moving briskly. IMHO, these two "perks" for SSR help prop up the selling price and sales pace.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

1) Location
2) Size
3) Location
4) Amenities
5) Location

 

[disneycrazed139]

Points could be lower also to offset the $89/point price of the place.

However, the location to me is a plus, not a minus, since we conclude every day/evening with a trip to DTD! (don't forget you CAN walk from DTD to SSR (path) or take a boat!)

 

[doubletrouble_vb]

I know its heresy but...won't SSR be the easiest resort to get to offsite entertainment..using mass transit?

 

[kweaver]

doubletrouble_vb...interesting question. I don't know the roads in Orlando very well at all...but I found the Lynx mass transit website and it shows a bus stop at the TTC near Magic Kingdom. There is a bus directly to downtown Orlando from there.

http://www.golynx.com/routemaps/50.pdf

It also looks like there is a large transfer station at Downtown Disney...with routes throughout the World. I haven't figured out where you can go from the Disney transfer station outside of WDW.

http://www.golynx.com/routemaps/300.pdf

Even though we always drive down (7 1/2 hours for us), we'll have to try this sometime.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I think they were trying to use information they gleaned from current members. I think the knowledge that lots of folks wanted convenient parking, and more reasonable point schedules and access to GVs were the reasons those things were put back into the plan at SSR. I suspect those three things were asked for a lot when they weren't available at VWL and BCV. I too think that since a fairly significant part of the infrastructure was in place does make a big difference in cost. As someone else memtioned here, the sewer systems, and existing "commons" buildings already being there was a big savings for DVD. That was even talked about in one of the articles about SSR before they started selling. I also think the added years was necessary for sales as well.

 

[KANSAS]

location,location,location,location.

 

[Dean]

I agree it's location but also the number of points they think will balance out. If they have it the same points as BWV, etc; it would be mostly empty with all the owners using at other resorts. In part it's the same thinking as having different seasons or the points higher for the weekend. If they thought they could charge more points and sell the resort and not have a mutiny from the existing owners, you can bet they would as it would lead to more profit.

 

[lurontravel]

I was under the impression that the reason for the high poijnt cost at VWL, BCV and BWV was because they all were attached to a hotel and shared the hotels amenities. OKW doesn't have these amenities and therefore, we pay less points to stay at OKW...