Sports: Deflate-Gate

[kimmar067]

Do you know what it's from?

....Tom Brady's opening statement at his press conference?

 

[topolino]

An open letter to Disney Ron:

Go take a walk in the fresh air, visit an old friend or read a good book. Do something, anything to distract you from this situation, because you're going to have a coronary, my friend.

You're way too invested in a multi-million dollar employee of a multi-billion dollar corporation that don't even know you exist.

 

[kimmar067]

An open letter to Disney Ron:

Go take a walk in the fresh air, visit an old friend or read a good book. Do something, anything to distract you from this situation, because you're going to have a coronary, my friend.

You're way too invested in a multi-million dollar employee of a multi-billion dollar corporation that don't even know you exist.

 

[bookgirl]

Apples and oranges (not only in the sport but the level.... teenager vs professional).

My mistake put defense instead of offense.

Disagree. If you are in a sport with equipment you know how it feels/reacts/moves. If a kid can tell his equipment is off than a professional can too. But if Tom Brady can't then I quess it is what it is.

 

[pat fan]

I quess it is what it is.

Been listening to Belichick have you??

 

[bookgirl]

LOL No, but I'm going to assume he said that recently.

 

[pat fan]

LOL No, but I'm going to assume he said that recently.

Nope, but he uses that phrase a lot.
Reporter "So coach, what do you think of the injury to X?" Bill "it is what it is"
Reporter "Coach, can you tell us what you think of the awful field at X's stadium you have to play on?" Bill "It is what it is"
Reporter "How do you feel about the short week? Will it affect your players?" Bill "It is what it is"

He's a man of many words....reporters love him

 

[kimmar067]

Been listening to Belichick have you??

...and, speaking of:



http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-am/0ap3000000403749/Belichick-We-re-on-to-Cincinnati

 

[kimmar067]

....and Frank Caliendo does his spoof on it:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11644913

HILARIOUS!

 

[pat fan]

Well, I'm kind of excited to see how it plays out once the season gets rolling. As I recall, after "Spygate" we went undefeated until the Superbowl. When Brady went down and was out for the season, we went what, 11-5 with Cassell? Gronk was a beast last year defending his QB and I can't wait to see him this year! It's all good.

 

[disney4us2002]

Well, I'm kind of excited to see how it plays out once the season gets rolling. As I recall, after "Spygate" we went undefeated until the Superbowl. When Brady went down and was out for the season, we went what, 11-5 with Cassell? Gronk was a beast last year defending his QB and I can't wait to see him this year! It's all good.

I would LOVE a repeat of that season!! Go Big Blue!!!

 

[CPT Tripss]

Patsies have a long tradition of cheating

30 plus years ago they gave the plow driver the game ball.

 

[pat fan]

Patsies have a long tradition of cheating

30 plus years ago they gave the plow driver the game ball.

It's NOT CHEATING if there's no rule against it! Again...Geez Louise!!! To do it NOW it would be cheating, but then it was not! Sigh.....

 

[pat fan]

I would LOVE a repeat of that season!! Go Big Blue!!!

So would my Aunt, she's a huge Giants fan! (I forgive her cause she lives in Jersey. At least she's not a Jets fan!)

 

[TAX GUY]

My mistake put defense instead of offense.

Disagree. If you are in a sport with equipment you know how it feels/reacts/moves. If a kid can tell his equipment is off than a professional can too. But if Tom Brady can't then I quess it is what it is.

So the ref's that handle the balls after EVERY play couldn't feel it either? I agree that if there are drastic changes they can feel it, but not so in this case. The difference between 1 +/- PSI is nearly impossible to "feel". More so when things like temperature, rain, humidity, etc. could all be factors too (not meaning within the same game but from game to game and practice to practice).

As far as the current penalties, I see Brady fighting this all the way. The NFL wants to "send a message"? So will Brady. I also believe the team will fight the loss of draft picks but not the $1M fine, although they may seek to reduce it. My stance is because its clear an employee of the organization deflated the balls (so that makes the organization responsible) however there's no solid proof it was Brady or proof he clearly stated to "deflate the balls to under the minimum or at 11.5 +/- PSI".

 

[pat fan]

however there's no solid proof it was Brady or proof he clearly stated to "deflate the balls to under the minimum or at 11.5 +/- PSI".

I concur. I just had a conversation about this. Did he want them at the 12.5 minimum? Absolutely. Did he want them under it? I don't think so. And was there or was there not a record of pre-game PSI? Someone posted it to me in this thread back a few pages, but I keep seeing people say they didn't record the pre-game PSI (which is what I thought till the other poster gave me a supposed record of it).

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Geez Louise! At least we don't throw batteries at the opposing team or anything.

No but way back when Hibachis were popular, one of the Patriots fans tossed one at the refs once. How in the heck did someone slip a Hibachi in? And a Patriots coach did challenge the refs to a fist fight after a game. So they've had their share. HAHA oh nice. I just saw that Patriot fans arrested at NFL headquarters. Of all the things to protest. Tar sands? Nope. Racial injustice? Nope. Rape not being taken seriously enough? Nope. Domestic violence? Nope. Murder by cop? Nope. Drunk Driving? Nope. #@$%%#$@ MABEL!!! THEY JUST FINED OUR PATRIOTS A MILLION AND TOOK DRAFT PICKS AWAY, LET'S GO HAVE A SIT IN!!!!

 

[undertheradar]

So the ref's that handle the balls after EVERY play couldn't feel it either? I agree that if there are drastic changes they can feel it, but not so in this case. The difference between 1 +/- PSI is nearly impossible to "feel". More so when things like temperature, rain, humidity, etc. could all be factors too (not meaning within the same game but from game to game and practice to practice).

As far as the current penalties, I see Brady fighting this all the way. The NFL wants to "send a message"? So will Brady. I also believe the team will fight the loss of draft picks but not the $1M fine, although they may seek to reduce it. My stance is because its clear an employee of the organization deflated the balls (so that makes the organization responsible) however there's no solid proof it was Brady or proof he clearly stated to "deflate the balls to under the minimum or at 11.5 +/- PSI".

If it makes no difference, why the preference? The entire issue comes from a team "testing" rule, upon rule. It appears that too much "testing" caught up, and now the team will pay. Would the NFL have issued such severe penalties if the Patriots and Tom Brady had cooperated fully? The answer would be an emphatic No. This is a time when "Patriot pride" or swagger, have cost the team dearly. Will they learn or will history repeat?

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

It's NOT CHEATING if there's no rule against it! Again...Geez Louise!!! To do it NOW it would be cheating, but then it was not! Sigh.....

Though there was not an explicit rule against it in the rule book, there was indeed a rule put in place for that specific game that the plow was there to clear the yard markers, NOT clear a spot to kick a field goal. That was a total bush league move.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Patsies have a long tradition of cheating

30 plus years ago they gave the plow driver the game ball.

Heck. 30 years later they have an exhibit with the plow. They made a shrine out of it!!! HAHAHAHA!!!