Sports: Deflate-Gate

[GAN]

I doubt the NFL wants to open up the season with their first prime time game led by Jimmy Garoppolo.

It's pretty clear that the Pats don't care what the NFL thinks at this point. I'm a Patriots fan and I have no problem with Garoppolo starting the season -he needs an opportunity to prove what he's made of. In fact, if he plays well it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that Brady gets traded ...nothing that Belichick does would surprise me.

 

[JanaDee]

I doubt the NFL wants to open up the season with their first prime time game led by Jimmy Garoppolo.

Funny, people used to say the same thing about Brett Favre's backup...Aaron Rodgers.

 

[soccerdad72]

Funny, people used to say the same thing about Brett Favre's backup...Aaron Rodgers.

Garoppolo may very well become as good as Rodgers someday, but purely for advertising purposes, it's harder to sell a Thursday night Patriots game to a national audience if Brady's not involved.

The Pats may well not care about whether the NFL wants him on the field that night, but I would suspect that if they're able to manage it, they'd rather have Brady play Week 1 against the Steelers, and then sit out a suspension against the likes of the Bills and Jaguars.

I could be completed wrong - just speculating like everyone else.

 

[JanaDee]

Garoppolo may very well become as good as Rodges someday, but purely for advertising purposes, it's harder to sell a Thursday night Patriots game to a national audience if Brady's not involved.

The Pats may well not care about whether the NFL wants him on the field that night, but I would suspect that if they're able to manage it, they'd rather have Brady play Week 1 against the Steelers, and then sit out a suspension against the likes of the Bills and Jaguars.

I could be completed wrong - just speculating like everyone else.

Who do they play in that game? Outside of NE, the Pats don't have much of a national audience to begin with.

 

[soccerdad72]

Who do they play in that game? Outside of NE, the Pats don't have much of a national audience to begin with.

The Steelers. It's the primetime Thursday night season opener, so by default, they have a national audience. It's the only game of the night.

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

Funny, people used to say the same thing about Brett Favre's backup...Aaron Rodgers.

People said the exact same thing when the star of the Patriots, Drew Bledsoe, sheared some major blood vessel in his chest during a tackle and was out for the season right after signing a record contract and had to be replaced with some nobody 5th round pick out of Michigan named Tom Brady...

The game moves on...And I don't think the NFL is particularly worried about the excitement attendant to the first game of a new NFL season...

 

[Hrhpd]

Garoppolo may very well become as good as Rodges someday, but purely for advertising purposes, it's harder to sell a Thursday night Patriots game to a national audience if Brady's not involved.

The Pats may well not care about whether the NFL wants him on the field that night, but I would suspect that if they're able to manage it, they'd rather have Brady play Week 1 against the Steelers, and then sit out a suspension against the likes of the Bills and Jaguars.

I could be completed wrong - just speculating like everyone else.

If, as some of the Pats fans here claim, that the rest of the nation hates the Pats because they win and want to see them fail, that would mean that the nation would actually want to see a game without Brady because of the potential to fail. Under that delusion, that the nation just can't take the Pats winning, it would seem that the game would be easier to sell due to the potential of watching the Pats lose.

 

[JanaDee]

The Steelers. It's the primetime Thursday night season opener, so by default, they have a national audience. It's the only game of the night.

I know. My point was, even if it is the only game on that night for a national audience, it isn't going to draw a lot of people because of the Pats (with or without Brady).

 

[ilovefh]

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Would it also mean that the passenger was issued citation (including the one's in the back) since the one actually doing the speeding is the driver and not the others that are in the car too? I'm sure the driver knows the passenger prefers to go a little faster but did he actually instruct the driver to do it? More likely than not....or probably, but...

Yes, fines all around!

 

[declansdad]

I know. My point was, even if it is the only game on that night for a national audience, it isn't going to draw a lot of people because of the Pats (with or without Brady).

Not sure of last season but in the 2013 season, 5 of the top 24 viewed regular season games involved the Patriots. That would lead me to believe that they are a pretty strong draw on TV.

 

[Disney Ron]

Over the limit? Nope, because most people realize an overinflated football is not an advantage. Have you ever tried to catch a rock hard football?

"If you cheat on the practice field, you'll cheat in the game. And if you cheat in the game, you'll cheat the rest of your life."
--Vince Lombardi

This has to be one of the stupidest things I've read here. Have you ever played football Jana, and I mean in games not throwing to your nephew, because I have and I was a wide receiver and a defensive back 2 positions that have to catch the ball. Know what you're talking about instead of just throwing crap against the wall.

BTW I'll bet you a $1,000 that if I handed you a football that was at 12.5 psi and one at 11.5 psi that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. That's why this entire thing is a joke. In fact Boomer Esiason said that there shouldn't even be a range of psi the footballs should be, he said each QB should be able to have it the way they like it. Like he said it's not like the opposition QB has to use Brady's football.

 

[Disney Ron]

Phew, all I can say is that I am glad the Broncos no longer hold the record for the largest fine in the league's history. That legacy now belongs to the Pats.

As for Brady, his legacy will go down as a cheater because of his arrogance.

It is precisely because the other QB's will openly admit they would do the same thing that will save their legacy. Brady's arrogance that prevents him from ever admitting he did anything is what makes people dislike him so much and will cause people to remember him as a cheater and not the QB's who have no qualms admitting they cheat. And it is not because anybody is jealous of Brady as Disney Ron keeps trying to insist on.

Everybody knows that everybody does it. Doesn't mean it is right. People don't like cheaters, but if somebody admits they are a cheater, it kind of just proves everybody does it. So, the ones who admit it, well, people are resigned to the fact so that is not news, thus forgettable and not a ding on their legacy (note: not reputation.) The fact that Brady is so arrogant, he cannot admit he cheats just like the rest of the league even when proven is what will seal his legacy as a cheater. It is not the act of cheating, but his arrogance that he is better than everybody else and would "never" stoop to that level.

A Broncos fan? Right you're not jealous and have no agenda.

 

[Disney Ron]

http://deadspin.com/roger-goodell-is-a-****-eating-moron-1703762629

 

[Disney Ron]

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/05/12/keller-large-no-integrity-in-nfl/

 

[Hrhpd]

A Broncos fan? Right you're not jealous and have no agenda.

Sure. If you say so.

 

[Disney Ron]

Sure. If you say so.

You showed your cards and you know it.

 

[TAX GUY]

Here is where the NFL has to change. A player/coach/team employee should not be allowed to participate in any organized team activities while appealing a suspension. Would speed up the process and make most people with any sense of integrity, own up to what they did. I have yet to see where Brady admits any ownership of this, he appears to be quite content to let the little people take the fall.

Again, maybe, perhaps, more likely than not, he didn't have any direct involvement in it. Did he give a direct order to deflate the balls to 12.5, 11.5, or any designated PSI amount? Was it a general comment, at some point in his career, that he prefers the game balls soft?

 

[bookgirl]

I am not a fan of any Pro Team. I do watch football and I know enough about it to be able to follow discussion and enjoy the games. So as someone who is nether a Pats fan or a Pats non fan.

They cheated, they have a history of cheating. If you're going to cheat don't whine when you get caught and punished. Do your penance and then move on, hopefully as a more ethnical player/organization, but really just sit out the games and move on.

And yesI believe that if he didn't tell them to do it, he knew it was happening. Elite athletes know their equipment, it's an extension of themselves. Hell the RB and WR should have known something was up as well but TB leads his offense as such he is responsible for it.

Heck my teen age nephew who is a competitive basketball player can tell you if a ball is under or over inflated just by handling it. If a kid has enough talent to do it I'm pretty sure a professional player can as well.

No sympathy for him or the team.

 

[TAX GUY]

I am not a fan of any Pro Team. I do watch football and I know enough about it to be able to follow discussion and enjoy the games. So as someone who is nether a Pats fan or a Pats non fan.

They cheated, they have a history of cheating. If you're going to cheat don't whine when you get caught and punished. Do your penance and then move on, hopefully as a more ethnical player/organization, but really just sit out the games and move on.

And yesI believe that if he didn't tell them to do it, he knew it was happening. Elite athletes know their equipment, it's an extension of themselves. Hell the RB and WR should have known something was up as well but TB leads his defense as such he is responsible for it.

Heck my teen age nephew who is a competitive basketball player can tell you if a ball is under or over inflated just by handling it. If a kid has enough talent to do it I'm pretty sure a professional player can as well.

No sympathy for him or the team.

Apples and oranges (not only in the sport but the level.... teenager vs professional).

 

[TAX GUY]

double post