What is your argument here? Under FP- if you show up at noon like this everything would be gone. Now with FP+, if you show up at noon it's just the same. But with FP+ and a little planning, you could (dont have to) reserve a few rides in advance and have them waiting for you.
But you did it by choice, and given you'd be arriving late, it helped you. With FP- you simply could not plan and would have nothing available when you arrive.
Actually, under legacy FP the only FPs we had a hard time getting at noon or beyond were TSMM/Soarin/TT. In March 2013 and October 2013, we had no problems getting MK headliners well into the evening.
But beyond that, if you read all of my posts, I actually specifically stated that we appreciated FP+ for our late arrival days. I also said the only reason we chose DHS the day after the run was precisely because of FP+ - that it gave us the ability to do so, and we appreciated it.
I actually praised FP+ in this regard, multiple times.
And, if you read my further posts, I absolutely said this was our choice. And that choosing to use FP+ with the way our weekend was going to be structured because of the run, we needed to do a bit more *pre-planning* than we had to do in the past(including last year, in which we were also there for a late night run, the TOT 10 miler - so the same weekend structure as this year).
In order to know what times to book FP+ for, I needed to figure out when we'd get into the park and when we'd be leaving the park in order to know the time window I could look within. Doing this also required figuring out some transportation timing in order to answer those questions. This is not something we had to do at home last year. IN the parks, yes, but not at home. So therefore, it's more *pre*-planning than we had to do, which is all I ever said.
I didn't say legacy was better for this scenario (it wouldn't have been). I didn't say FP+ sucked because of it either.
Nobody reads these except for ppl on the Dis, which was already calculated to be less than 1% of Disney-goers. If the 99% of non-commando regular visitors can figure it out, then surely Disboards fanatics can too. When you say "having to read the thread" that is only because you feel compelled to optimize to the max. That is a personality trait of you and I, but has nothing to do with the requirement to read those threads. The Disney material *is* enough for most people to be able to figure out FP+. It's not rocket science and is no more difficult than using Facebook or Angry Birds.
I never said it was rocket science. Nor did I say it was a requirement to read those threads. The poster I was responding to asked me what added to MY pre-planning. I answered with what MY experience was. I was never once saying it was required for everyone or necessary to use FP+, but that it was something that HELPED me as the overlapping time thing was something we did end up needing - something that I would not have thought to do had I not read it here. I am a more visual learner, so Josh's tutorial helped me where I was having issues visualizing. But, again, I never said it was required for everyone, or a requirement of FP+ in general. I was speaking for myself and our trip, and that is all.
I will also point out that this wasn't about maximizing FP+ either. We only got a 4th FP+ once (at DHS, for Indy,as little else was available). All of our other days were 3 FP+ and done (actually only 2 at AK) Certainly not "maximizing" FP+ by any definition I've ever seen here.
We were lucky that it was slow at WDW for the most part so we had 10-20 minute waits on most rides, 7DMT, TSMM, Soarin, TT would be the long lines usually a hour+. The FP+ destroys Epcot in my opinion since you can get one or the other for Soarin/TT and then after you use your 3 FP's you try to get a FP for the one you didn't go on and its either out of FP's or a FP for 8pm or later that night.
