Space Mountain Accident

Originally posted by Rneighh
Europa --- that would be for a jury to decide.

Renee

A jury is made up of people (well most of them) and your a person...so what do you think? Should companies be responsible for every mechanical failure that happens? Just give me your gut feeling here. Let say that if the coaster problem did happen and it was due to a part failing (such as this 1% problem that I brought up) would you say the company that installed the part or produced the part is responsible??
 
Absolutely possitively no doubt that assuming there are suits brought, and I have no doubt that at least a couple of them will sue, there won't be a trial or a jury. Disney attorneys will settle this out of court and with the terms probably secret.
 
Europa -- the court system is not as cut and dry as you seem to want to make it. A jury would weigh all kinds of issues in a personal injury claim. I work in a world of facts and information and we just don't have enough facts or information on this SM injury to come to any conclusions. I am not going to make any assumptions on this without a lot more information.

You hypothetical situation regarding a 1% failure on a part is way to vague for me to make any conclusions.

Renee
 
I'll withdraw my vague question if you withdraw this vague guilt statement...

I state this once again --- a company is negligent IF they had knowledge or should have had knowledge that their is a problem
 

Although every ride at Disney (and most every park in America) is safe, and getting on a plane is safe, and skiing down a slope in Vail is safe - don't you always take some risk? Getting into a car is safe, but there is also a risk associated with it. Yes, the ride had a brakedown and some people went to the hospital. It is really bad for them; however, if we do have laws in this world to overcompensate them - we won't have life as we know it. We could never build the world's tallest and fastest roller coasters because, at some point, some day, something will go wrong, nothing is perfect. Yes - can they get money from Disney? Yes. Will they - Yes. Will it be more than they probably are entitled to - Yes. Can we blame them - No. It's just the way life works now. And the guy who broke his leg skiing in Vail is probably thinking how he can say the ski resort was at fault. Just remember - when you pay $46 or $47 at Disney next year it is for a new attraction, higher electric bills, and for higher insurance premiums.

Yes, it can be taken to extremes. The car did not start; therefore, you lost a day's wages. You were damaged - now sue.
 
Kmovies, who wants to "overcompensate them?" The only real arguement is should there be any compensation above & beyond medical expenses. Bob & I will never agree, even though I agree with him wholeheartedly that things are WAY OUT OF CONTROL in this arena.

I still happen to believe you have a right to expect a safe environment from Disney and a coaster ramming another doesn't just happen "because". As in airplane accidents, victims families settle huge suits when neglignence is found, or going to be found (oh, and in deference to Renee's posts, certainly negligence has to be found and certanly we do not have all the facts here on the DIS for this case - It's al speculation).
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When you deal with machinery accidents can and do happen!! No piece of machinery can be foolsafe and work in a perfect manner every time. Accidents will happen and parts will fail. We dont know enough about the SM incident to know if it was mechanical or possible human error. But nothing has been shown that SM isnt a safe ride or that disney doesnt provide a safe enviroment be it from how the rides operate or that the grounds are kept safe. A ride that gives millions of people safe rides has shown itself to be run in a safe manner and who believes that any piece of machinery no matter how well maintened wont at one time or another have a part fail that can result in some type of accident. Or is the current expectation that a piece of machinery is perfect and should never fail or break down??
This acident and others have happened at WDW and DL but when you look at the amount of rides given per day their is nothing shown that would make anybody think they arent safe places to visit or to enjoy the attractions.
 
I pretty much agree Bob, except for your last statement...
...their is nothing shown that would make anybody think they aren't safe places to vist or to enjoy the attractions.
This accident makes me a little more leery than I was last week...Although I agree that we don't know enough yet...
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I wouldnt be afraid to ride SM at all!!! A series of mishaps would be worrisome, but a single accident wouldnt bother me.
 
Just as an aside, the fact that these people were "released" from the hospital the same day does not mean that they got a scrape on the knee or a little bump on the head and that's all..

Last year my DD's mother-in-law was in an automobile accident and "released" the same day.. She had a broken nose, stitches in her head, 4 broken ribs, a bruised heart, and two knees the size of basketballs..

Seems to me it would be a little difficult to continue on with a wonderful vacation if you had even ONE of the conditions listed above..
 














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