South Carolina may soon execute repeat child molesters

[RitaZ.]

As much as I dislike pedophiles, the death penalty is not the answer.

I'm curious to know, what is the answer?

 

[vivilasvegas]

I'm curious to know, what is the answer?

Usually when you are against the death penalty, then the answer (for myself at least) would be life in prison with no chance of parole. But no one ever seems to be happy with that answer.

I don't know what to do with pedophiles besides that. Psych hospitals for life maybe?

 

[DisMN]

Usually when you are against the death penalty, then the answer (for myself at least) would be life in prison with no chance of parole. But no one ever seems to be happy with that answer.

I don't know what to do with pedophiles besides that. Psych hospitals for life maybe?

I think the solution is a combination of several things. Castration, chemically, surgically or both and then life inprisonment with ZERO chance of parole. Other details to be adjusted per the prisoners criminal history.


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[DisMN]

Can I please just add that I think there's a HUGE difference in someone molesting (bad touch) a person and the story mentioned earlier where the child was taken from her bed, TORTURED and KILLED.

That's NOT the norm for people who molest children. THAT was a MURDERER.....yes, I believe in the death penalty for people who MURDER someone.


But the death penalty for your typical molester?
I hope, no, I pray most who talk about the death penalty for molesters are talking about the ones who torture and murder someone......

 

[Pigeon]

I'm entirely against the death penalty for this or any other crime. I do believe in life in prison without parole for some situations, repeat child molesters included.

My opposition to the death penalty isn't so much about the person executed (although I do think killing them is wrong). It's more about our society. I don't think that deliberately killing people is the act of a civilized society.

 

[hentob]

But the death penalty for your typical molester?
I hope, no, I pray most who talk about the death penalty for molesters are talking about the ones who torture and murder someone......

Hmmm..You mean a typical molester that, let's say, would attack a 5 year old boy, rape him over and over again, but is nice enough not to kill him

 

[Alicnwondrln]

you do this once and you go to JAIL FOREVER

 

[alliecats]

Hmmm..You mean a typical molester that, let's say, would attack a 5 year old boy, rape him over and over again, but is nice enough not to kill him

Well, to be executed under this law, wouldn't he have to first be convicted of doing that to this little boy, and then go to jail, serve his time, and get out, to do it at least one more time to some other child, and get convicted of that crime (depends on definition of "repeat")? Whether he kills them or not, sounds like someone who needs killing, to me.

 

[In a hurry]

Hmmm..You mean a typical molester that, let's say, would attack a 5 year old boy, rape him over and over again, but is nice enough not to kill him

Except that most child molesters are "uncle Joe" who cops a feel every time he hugs the nieces. Every family has had contact with someone like that. And most have the guy who no one knows until the funeral that he raped all of his daughters. At least our family did. None of them wished he had been executed. All were heartbroken when they found he had been a victim as a child too.

I still agree with Chicago526. The law seems too ambiguous.

 

[RitaZ.]

I don't know what to do with pedophiles besides that.

I think that may be the main reason people are supporting the death penalty for pedophiles, not knowing an effective way to deal with them, so let's eliminate them.

I despise pedophiles, they are scum. The one thing that most mental health experts agree on is that the chances for rehabilitation are zero, yet a pedophile's ability to re-offend is great. Scary reality.

 

[DisMN]

Hmmm..You mean a typical molester that, let's say, would attack a 5 year old boy, rape him over and over again, but is nice enough not to kill him

That's not your "typical" molester. That's what I'm trying to say......the typical molester is NOT someone who "attacks" their victims. They are usually friendly known faces to the person they're hurting.
Your typical neighborhood molester is far more common than the type that would "attack" someone. I don't agree on the death penalty for your TYPICAL dirty-old-man type pervert.

Maybe it's just a matter of semantics when using words like "attack" and even "molester".



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[hentob]

That's not your "typical" molester. That's what I'm trying to say......the typical molester is NOT someone who "attacks" their victims. They are usually friendly known faces to the person they're hurting.
Your typical neighborhood molester is far more common than the type that would "attack" someone. I don't agree on the death penalty for your TYPICAL dirty-old-man type pervert.

Maybe it's just a matter of semantics when using words like "attack" and even "molester".



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IMO, if someone "cops a feel" without my consent, they are attacking me. Now, imagine them doing that to your son or daughter? Molester is too kind of a word.

 

[bimshire]

I'm entirely against the death penalty for this or any other crime. I do believe in life in prison without parole for some situations, repeat child molesters included.

My opposition to the death penalty isn't so much about the person executed (although I do think killing them is wrong). It's more about our society. I don't think that deliberately killing people is the act of a civilized society.

Agree! The USA is on the same level as many rogue countries like those in the Middle East when it comes to execution justice. Civilize societies in Europe and elsewhere are above such retribution. No flip floppng for me. I am again the death penalty period.

 

[YourMajesty]

That's not your "typical" molester. That's what I'm trying to say......the typical molester is NOT someone who "attacks" their victims. They are usually friendly known faces to the person they're hurting.
Your typical neighborhood molester is far more common than the type that would "attack" someone. I don't agree on the death penalty for your TYPICAL dirty-old-man type pervert.

Maybe it's just a matter of semantics when using words like "attack" and even "molester".



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Usually a matter of time before they attack and kill. We just had a ten year old girl abducted and murdered last night in Tulsa, OK. Maybe getting to the root of the the problem...like becoming addicted to child porn might help. In so many cases this is where the problem starts. It's awful. Aslo, we get better news coverage about puppies being burned by firecracker than we do about child abuse.

 

[In a hurry]

IMO, if someone "cops a feel" without my consent, they are attacking me. Now, imagine them doing that to your son or daughter? Molester is too kind of a word.

Happened to me. Do I wish death on that person, no. Do I wish they had been incapacitated. Sure.

My step mom at 17 was raped by her dad. He was a practicing alcoholic at the time. She had the baby and put it up for adoption.

10 years later, her dad is in recovery, and so was she. They were able to have the relationship she didn't have as a kid. She forgave him, he never forgave himself. I know that she would not have chosen execution for him at any point.

Life is too full of extenuating factors to make all around statements, in my opinion.

I know that there is a ridiculously high statistical chance my daughter will be assaulted. I am diligent in teaching her, and protecting her, so that she isn't a victim. I also hope to give her the skills to deal with it if she ever is.

 

[dcentity2000]

The issue is somewhat sensational on this board and for one simple reason:

The demographics of the DIS show the average user to be female, married/serious relationship and 25 to 45 years old.

There is a psychological argument that says that one's position in life influences their decisions and views, either through nature or nurture. In this case, it would be likely that certain maternal instincts would be quite strong amongst the majority of DISers - including the instinct to protect children above all others.

This leads to the inevitable bloodlust for anyone who harms a child, an emotion that overpowers logic.

Logically, execution costs more, is inherently dangerous (irreversible nature means no reprieve for innocents) and offers little to no deterrent over incarceration.

Emotionally, many people here hunt for blood. We need to dismiss this emotion in order to assess the situation properly.



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[DisMN]

Usually a matter of time before they attack and kill. We just had a ten year old girl abducted and murdered last night in Tulsa, OK. .

I totally and completely disagree with the "matter of time before they attack and kill" statement. Please go back and read comments by "In a hurry" and a few others about what a typical molester is. They are not murderers.....they are perverts sure, but that's a far cry from being twisted enough to KILL someone.



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[DisMN]

Happened to me. Do I wish death on that person, no. Do I wish they had been incapacitated. Sure.

My step mom at 17 was raped by her dad. He was a practicing alcoholic at the time. She had the baby and put it up for adoption.

10 years later, her dad is in recovery, and so was she. They were able to have the relationship she didn't have as a kid. She forgave him, he never forgave himself. I know that she would not have chosen execution for him at any point.

Life is too full of extenuating factors to make all around statements, in my opinion.

I know that there is a ridiculously high statistical chance my daughter will be assaulted. I am diligent in teaching her, and protecting her, so that she isn't a victim. I also hope to give her the skills to deal with it if she ever is.

You've said it ALL far better than I've been saying it.
Thanks I suppose. LOL

ESPECIALLY that last few lines........I've talked with my daughter and now my granddaughter. Hopefully they have the skills I didn't have firstly to protect themselves, and secondly to deal with it if it DOES happen.



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[vivilasvegas]

The issue is somewhat sensational on this board and for one simple reason:

The demographics of the DIS show the average user to be female, married/serious relationship and 25 to 45 years old.

There is a psychological argument that says that one's position in life influences their decisions and views, either through nature or nurture. In this case, it would be likely that certain maternal instincts would be quite strong amongst the majority of DISers - including the instinct to protect children above all others.

This leads to the inevitable bloodlust for anyone who harms a child, an emotion that overpowers logic.

Logically, execution costs more, is inherently dangerous (irreversible nature means no reprieve for innocents) and offers little to no deterrent over incarceration.

Emotionally, many people here hunt for blood. We need to dismiss this emotion in order to assess the situation properly.



Rich::

sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm a 32 year old female in a serious relationship who is against the death penalty for all cases. and I know of other women on this board who are in my boat.

 

[gris gris]

Except that most child molesters are "uncle Joe" who cops a feel every time he hugs the nieces. Every family has had contact with someone like that. And most have the guy who no one knows until the funeral that he raped all of his daughters. At least our family did. None of them wished he had been executed. All were heartbroken when they found he had been a victim as a child too.

My family has NOT had contact with someone like "Uncle Joe". None of them wished he had been executed? Maybe if had been executed he wouldn't have had the chance to rape all his daughters. When does the cycle stop? If "I was a victim as a child too" it would be okay for me to do this to my kids or relatives?

This whole thing makes me sick and honestly I think it's worse than killing a person. Taking advantage of an innocent child is beyond comprehension to me.