South Carolina may soon execute repeat child molesters

[In a hurry]

What makes you think you can honestly say that? You have no idea what these type of people can put you though. You have no idea the kind of scars they can leave on your life.

I am not one who is all for the death penalty. But on this issue I can have a change of heart. I have been there and I have been hurt by these sick *******s. I have physical and mental scars because of them. And they are the reason I can't have a child of my own. So yeah, I am pretty much on fire about these people and want to see them fry so another child doesn't have to live through all the crap I did.

You know, you can't tell someone else how to feel or what they should feel. Statistically speaking, a good 1/4 of the women on this board have or will be sexually assaulted to some degree. I am sorry you were, but you have no clue that the people you are talking to haven't been. Some people just plain do not agree with the death penalty.

 

[dcentity2000]

What makes you think you can honestly say that? You have no idea what these type of people can put you though. You have no idea the kind of scars they can leave on your life.

I am not one who is all for the death penalty. But on this issue I can have a change of heart. I have been there and I have been hurt by these sick *******s. I have physical and mental scars because of them. And they are the reason I can't have a child of my own. So yeah, I am pretty much on fire about these people and want to see them fry so another child doesn't have to live through all the crap I did.

If you apply that question upon yourself, it is only fair to pose the question:

What if your son were to molest a child?

Or even better:

What if he was only accused for it and was executed?

What ifs could fly around!



Rich::

 

[MAKmom]

Do you know some people like being in jail? For some men its 3 meals & the best place they have ever slept. They like it! DH knows guys who have done this. His Dad had a transmission shop in West Philly.

 

[Bob Slydell]

You are either anti-death penalty or you aren't.

I disagree with this statement.

I'm very much pro-death penalty, but I don't like this proposed law. I'm all for stricter punishment for child molesters, but not the death penalty.

 

[chell]

You know, you can't tell someone else how to feel or what they should feel. Statistically speaking, a good 1/4 of the women on this board have or will be sexually assaulted to some degree. I am sorry you were, but you have no clue that the people you are talking to haven't been. Some people just plain do not agree with the death penalty.

Well now I don't recall telling anyone else how to feel or what they should feel. Not once did I say anyone should feel a certain way.

 

[vivilasvegas]

I disagree with this statement.

I'm very much pro-death penalty, but I don't like this proposed law. I'm all for stricter punishment for child molesters, but not the death penalty.

Correct. Maybe I mean, if you are anti-death penalty, then that's it. You can't flip-flop for each case.

 

[In a hurry]

Well now I don't recall telling anyone else how to feel or what they should feel. Not once did I say anyone should feel a certain way.

Oh, must have misunderstood. Sorry about that.

 

[vivilasvegas]

Well now I don't recall telling anyone else how to feel or what they should feel. Not once did I say anyone should feel a certain way.

It was in your post directed at me, but you were telling me that I wouldn't know how it feels and have no idea..etc..

 

[chell]

It was in your post directed at me, but you were telling me that I wouldn't know how it feels and have no idea..etc..

Just re-read my post again and still don't see where I told anyone how they should feel. I was telling how I feel and why.

 

[vivilasvegas]

Just re-read my post again and still don't see where I told anyone how they should feel. I was telling how I feel and why.

Never mind.

 

[TheButlerDiditt]

I'm against it. I think it is absolutely absurd of the government to even suggest such a thing. Granted, molesting a child is a horrible offense, but to have the government murder you for it is just way over the top. It's definitely not an eye for an eye. If this passes, how long until we start getting the death sentence for speeding? Or theft? Where does it end??

 

[Chris and Pooh]

As you are possibly aware, in th UK there is no death penalty for any reason, except possibly treason though I am sure that has be repealed, I think that for child molestors of any description that they should not be segregated and enjoy in some cases a better life than old age pensioners, they should be put in main stream prisons and let justice take its course with the criminal fraternity, but of course I know that wouldnt happen as there are too many liberals worried more about the aggressor than the victim, but then I'm just a cynic!!

 

[cstraub]

Completely agree. And spare me the argument about "oh, if it happens to you, you'll change your mind"...no, I wont.

I wonder if you would have a change of heart if someone you loved -child or not- was taken from their bed in the middle of the night, tortured sexually and then buried alive clutching a small stuffed dolphin.

If you actually think of the details of this in your mind it should make you want to go out and kill the person with your bare hands. That is called instinct and logic. This happens among animals and that is what we are. Animals get rid of the bad animal to protect the other animals. This can also be called survival. We are wired to survive. This can be shown through the study of our fight or flight response to dangerous situations. The "fight or flight response" is our body's primitive, automatic, inborn response that prepares the body to "fight" or "flee" from perceived attack, harm or threat to our survival. To me it is a normal response to want to be rid of the predator. Even after the crime is over considering how we react shouldn't we follow up on the others person will to survive? Should that not too be the "normal" response? The person who committed the crime had no empathy for the victim and neither does the person who allows the predator to live on.

Not trying to change your mind here but I think a lot of times people do not posess enough empathy for their fellow man/woman. I have often said that on a murder case the jurors should have to get a cut on thier hand somewhere so they "remember" to have empathy for the person who was murdered. They would remember the pain and suffering on a small scale and therefore would have more empathy for someone who was murdered.

So many times we forget to think about what the person who suffered, as a result of the crime may have felt. We lightly throw around words like murder and molestation without really thinking about what they mean. People need to wake up and think about what it really means!

 

[vivilasvegas]

I wonder if you would have a change of heart if someone you loved -child or not- was taken from their bed in the middle of the night, tortured sexually and then buried alive clutching a small stuffed dolphin.

If you actually think of the details of this in your mind it should make you want to go out and kill the person with your bare hands. That is called instinct and logic. This happens among animals and that is what we are. Animals get rid of the bad animal to protect the other animals. This can also be called survival. We are wired to survive. This can be shown through the study of our fight or flight response to dangerous situations. The "fight or flight response" is our body's primitive, automatic, inborn response that prepares the body to "fight" or "flee" from perceived attack, harm or threat to our survival. To me it is a normal response to want to be rid of the predator. Even after the crime is over considering how we react shouldn't we follow up on the others person will to survive? Should that not too be the "normal" response? The person who committed the crime had no empathy for the victim and neither does the person who allows the predator to live on.

Not trying to change your mind here but I think a lot of times people do not posess enough empathy for their fellow man/woman. I have often said that on a murder case the jurors should have to get a cut on thier hand somewhere so they "remember" to have empathy for the person who was murdered. They would remember the pain and suffering on a small scale and therefore would have more empathy for someone who was murdered.

So many times we forget to think about what the person who suffered, as a result of the crime may have felt. We lightly throw around words like murder and molestation without really thinking about what they mean. People need to wake up and think about what it really means!

I'm glad you aren't trying to change my mind, because you can't. And thanks, but I do have empathy for my fellow man/woman.
And I'm sorry, but nothing "should make me want to go out and kill the person with my bare hands."

There are people out there who have forgiven criminals, and I may not be able to forgive, but I am not going to decide if a person should live or die.

 

[Bob Slydell]

If you actually think of the details of this in your mind it should make you want to go out and kill the person with your bare hands. That is called instinct and logic. This happens among animals and that is what we are.

The difference between us and animals, however, is the ability to rationally think through our instincts and logically come to the proper conclusion (e.g. letting the justice system handle it and not becoming a vigilante).

 

[Bob Slydell]

Correct. Maybe I mean, if you are anti-death penalty, then that's it. You can't flip-flop for each case.

That makes more sense, and I agree. Anti-death penalty advocates are agaisnt any sort of death penalty, whereas many death penalty advocates do, at times, pick and choose situations where they feel death is warranted.

 

[In a hurry]

The person who committed the crime had no empathy for the victim and neither does the person who allows the predator to live on.

I think this is a ridiculous statement. To say that someone who doesn't believe in killing people for their crimes has no empathy? Just because I would have the feeling of wanting to kill a predator, doesn't make me any better (more empathic )than someone who doesn't base their opinions on feelings of revenge.

 

[zenshome]

Hang em' by their pecker!!!

Not only men do this, I'm sure florida has a favorite teacher right now that they would like taken care of . I am all for this idea GO S. CAROLINA!!

 

[vivilasvegas]

Not only men do this, I'm sure florida has a favorite teacher right now that they would like taken care of . I am all for this idea GO S. CAROLINA!!

Are you talking about Debra LaFave, and if you are, you think she should be put to death??????????????????

 

[mickeyboat]

I wonder if you would have a change of heart if someone you loved -child or not- was taken from their bed in the middle of the night, tortured sexually and then buried alive clutching a small stuffed dolphin.

If you actually think of the details of this in your mind it should make you want to go out and kill the person with your bare hands. That is called instinct and logic. This happens among animals and that is what we are. Animals get rid of the bad animal to protect the other animals. This can also be called survival. We are wired to survive. This can be shown through the study of our fight or flight response to dangerous situations. The "fight or flight response" is our body's primitive, automatic, inborn response that prepares the body to "fight" or "flee" from perceived attack, harm or threat to our survival. To me it is a normal response to want to be rid of the predator. Even after the crime is over considering how we react shouldn't we follow up on the others person will to survive? Should that not too be the "normal" response? The person who committed the crime had no empathy for the victim and neither does the person who allows the predator to live on.

Not trying to change your mind here but I think a lot of times people do not posess enough empathy for their fellow man/woman. I have often said that on a murder case the jurors should have to get a cut on thier hand somewhere so they "remember" to have empathy for the person who was murdered. They would remember the pain and suffering on a small scale and therefore would have more empathy for someone who was murdered.

So many times we forget to think about what the person who suffered, as a result of the crime may have felt. We lightly throw around words like murder and molestation without really thinking about what they mean. People need to wake up and think about what it really means!

One can have complete empathy for the victim, and still feel it is better for the justice system to run it's course than to fall victim to their own impulses.

You describe the fight or flight response, but the recourse you suggest is not that, it's revenge. Retribution is a logical purpose of punishment. But there are other purposes such as rehabilitation, incapacitation, deterrence and restitution.

Our country was founded on the principal of liberty and justice for all. The justice system believes it is better to let ten guilty men go free than to convict one innocent person. All of us, including criminals, have the right to be protected from an overbearing government - which must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is legally guilty of a crime before they can inflict punishment.

BTW - any good prosecutor would make sure that jurors feel empathy for the victim. It wouldn't be hard in the case you described above. I am sick to my stomach just after reading it.

Denae