Some leftover drama from yesterday.....should I be mad?

I might be annoyed that my request was disregarded, but I wouldnt' be mad- especially a day or two later. My dh got a motorcycle last year- he takes our son out and it makes me nervous. DH is a good driver, they wear helmets and appropriate clothing and it still makes me nervous. I suck it up. He's his parent too and if he's comfortable taking him out- I trust his judgement.

Yeah--that won't happen in our house. Having known someone who was in two motorcycle accidents in a short period of time (after riding for decades) and died after the second one, my kids will never ride a motorcycle. They can assume that risk when they are adults. (the first was a freak accident where he hit a key deer in the keys, the second--we are unsure of what took place. He was turning and got hit. His more safe bike was totalled in the deer accident--saving his life. This was a bike with much less safety features.

DH's judgement isn't always what I worry about.

Though I do agree--I wouldn't hold a grudge a few days later. But DH is very familiar with my anxieties (I have had them long before children), and unless the fear is irrational and more helicopter like, he respects my wishes. If death can result from a simple mistake, he will usually err on the side of caution for me.
 
So I have a question for all of you moms posting on this thread ( you all are moms right?)
has your husband never done anything that you questioned in regards to the kids?

Plenty!

some I ignore
some I ask about calmly
some I have a pissy fit for a day or two

But mostly #1 or #2

When you've been together long enough, and are both invested in your marriage AND your children there are going to be things that are not always agreed upon 100%. We are individuals that have CHOSEN to be toghther, doesn't mean we become same mind, same thoughts.
 
If the mother is ruminating over every possible "what could happen" scenario, the child might actually be better off listening to the father's more realistic views about danger.

In OP's defense...a 50mph 2 lane highway with no sidewalks is not a customarily safe place for children to be for activity. I'll be sure to ask my husband for the male POV when he gets home.:rotfl:
 
So I have a question for all of you moms posting on this thread ( you all are moms right?)
has your husband never done anything that you questioned in regards to the kids?
Absolutely!
example:
Dh thinks the kids are perfectly safe sitting in the front seat of the car, I disagree. I feel very strongly that they should be sitting in the back because it is safer. It's just something that I worry about.
The difference is I didn't "tell" him he couldn't let the kids sit in the front, I expressed my concern and asked him to please defer to my judgement on this particular issue. He agreed.
In your OP you said that you "specifically told him not to walk there" as I said in my previous post it sounds as though you are talking to a child.
 

no she did not say moms are better parents. she said moms are more aware. and I believe that too.
we look at the "what could happen" scenarios with the kids way more than men do and any man who says that is not true is spouting bull pucky :) :)


Oh please! Do you always make blanket statements?
 
Absolutely!
example:
Dh thinks the kids are perfectly safe sitting in the front seat of the car, I disagree. I feel very strongly that they should be sitting in the back because it is safer. It's just something that I worry about.
The difference is I didn't "tell" him he couldn't let the kids sit in the front, I expressed my concern and asked him to please defer to my judgement on this particular issue. He agreed.
In your OP you said that you "specifically told him not to walk there" as I said in my previous post it sounds as though you are talking to a child.

That is more my style as well. But in defense of you--you have lots of safety experts likely backing you up.;)
 
I think we have a winner here. Someone who finally gets it. My DH is not as aware as I am with the kids. So I understand where the OP is coming from. Sorry but there is HUGE difference in the way that moms and dads take care of their kids. Dads are not as carful. some maybe but not most. Sorry dads.
Absurd :sad2:
 
So I have a question for all of you moms posting on this thread ( you all are moms right?)
has your husband never done anything that you questioned in regards to the kids?

No I'm a dad and I would think if you asked my wife that question, the answer would be yes. On the other hand, if you asked the same question to me about my wife, I would answer yes as well. That is only human nature. However, neither one of us make rules as to how the other should parent. WE make rules for our son together, and enforce them together.
 
Sorry but I still say there are an awful lot of spineless men out there that go along with this, and then to apologize still just amazes me.

And there is a bunch of men (and women) out there that do not think they should be be questioned at all. Ever. Over anything. "What I say goes" kind of mentality. And who also consider anyone that gets questioned over anything is a result of being spineless and living in a sham of a marriage. No two people can always agree over everything, everytime. But it is possible to have a very healthy marriage and no one is less of a real man if they recognize the spouse's trigger point/hotspots and respects them.
 
Why?

Remove parent--isn't it said that one sex is more of the risk taker while the more cautious?
Said by who?
I've seen plenty of Mom's who are more laid back w/ their children & Dad's who are the more safety conscious parent.
I think it's silly to make a blanket statement that mothers are more careful w/ their children, I also think it's offensive to fathers. :confused3
 
I would be upset - I would NOT be mad - at the fact that my husband went against my wishes.

Other than that, I would have 100% TRUST and FAITH in the FATHER of my child, to take care of OUR (i.e. HIS) child.

... And I sure hope so, especially considering the fact that if I die tomorrow, HE would be in charge of raising her.

And you are scared of her getting "hit by a careless driver"? Do you never drive her anywhere? :confused3 I think she has a much greater chance of being KILLED, not just HIT, by a careless driver in a CAR than walking down the street... Just sayin'.
 
Said by who?
I've seen plenty of Mom's who are more laid back w/ their children & Dad's who are the more safety conscious parent.
I think it's silly to make a blanket statement that mothers are more careful w/ their children, I also think it's offensive to fathers. :confused3

Well, then you are looking to be offended then.

Moms and dads parent differently. But it can't be discussed b/c it is "sexist".

Exceptions don't eliminate what has been shown in studies.

I had links, but opted to remove them. But men "in general" are bigger risk takers than women. There was a fascinating study in Columbia where they created a scenario that eliminated any bias to favor men or women. What they found was pretty neat. It did not say if men were offended by the results. It also didn't say that all the women were more cautious than men. But that it trended that way.

And there is a strong tendancy that that conveys into parenting.

That is not a bad thing or anything to be offended by.
 
I would be upset - I would NOT be mad - at the fact that my husband went against my wishes.

Other than that, I would have 100% TRUST and FAITH in the FATHER of my child, to take care of OUR (i.e. HIS) child.

... And I sure hope so, especially considering the fact that if I die tomorrow, HE would be in charge of raising her.

And you are scared of her getting "hit by a careless driver"? Do you never drive her anywhere? :confused3 I think she has a much greater chance of being KILLED, not just HIT, by a careless driver in a CAR than walking down the street... Just sayin'.

True--but it is more likely that a pedestrian hit by a car to die...than a kid in a car involved in a collision to die. Air Bags, crumple zones, safety belts and boosters (as my 10yo is still stuck in), frame of the vehicle all help to keep the passengers safe. As a pedestrian...your body takes ALL of the impact. So it really isn't a valid comparison.
 
Well, then you are looking to be offended then.

Moms and dads parent differently. But it can't be discussed b/c it is "sexist".

Exceptions don't eliminate what has been shown in studies.

I had links, but opted to remove them. But men "in general" are bigger risk takers than women. There was a fascinating study in Columbia where they created a scenario that eliminated any bias to favor men or women. What they found was pretty neat. It did not say if men were offended by the results. It also didn't say that all the women were more cautious than men. But that it trended that way.

And there is a strong tendancy that that conveys into parenting.

That is not a bad thing or anything to be offended by.

I get what you're saying and I agree that "in general" men are bigger risk takers. I still think it's offensive & silly to suggest that men aren't as careful w/ their children as mothers are. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

My father was a retired NYC detective, he was extremely safety conscious. Not paranoid, but taught me how to keep myself safe...wear your seatbelt, lock your doors, be aware of your surroundings...etc. My mother was far more lax. Certainly my upbringing has influenced how I see this particular subject.
 
Yes, it is not that I don't trust that he will look out for her, I just worry. I worry about everything, I admit that.
I worry about safety all the time.

and no he was not drinking , doing drugs, and is not mentally or physically disabled. and I am sure I did insult him in a way.
but he knows me, he knows how I am ...........LOL, we have been married for 23 years!

Please do yourself and your family a favor and figure out the reasons why you worry about everything.

I have a mother who is like that and believe me, it is a burden for the family to bear. And what it ends up doing is making everyone in the family tiptoe and sneak around trying to make sure Mom doesn't find out what we're doing so she doesn't worry, because her worry drives everyone to distraction. You learn to be sneaky, in essence, or at least not forthcoming, because to be forthcoming means a constant barrage of worry.

I have spent my life keepong my mother on a "need to know" basis. Things I would have liked to share I didn't because I knew she would worry. Times when it would have been nice to have my mother's support or counsel, I didn't have it because had I told her my problem, she would have worried to an extreme degree and driven me insane had she known I was having some sort of issue or problem. Heck, I went through 5 years of infertility treatment that she never knew about because had she known, she would had constantly been harping on when I had to have procedures, what about the anesthesia, what if I bled to death and so on. There were experiences that I missed growing up because I know that if I had asked to do them, the answer would have been no because she would not have been able to bear to let me do it because she would have worried or if the answer was yes, the time leading up to the experience would have been filled with listening to how much she was going to worry while I was gone. I recall one summer day telling my mother that I would be going to NYC for the day with my neighbor (we were both in our late 30's/early 40's at the time) and she told me not to wear shorts because someone might run up to me and cut my legs with a knife because "you know how New York is" and then I got the litany of "Why do you have to go? What's in New York that we don't have here? Don't come home in the dark" and so on and so on......

My parents are now in their 8o's and their world is very small because my mother worries about them driving in the dark, my mother worries about them driving too far because what if the car breaks down, my mother worries about what if my father is driving and has a heart attack they could both be killed (and my father has no history of heart trouble). They go very few places because of this pathological worrying. At this point, it's easeir for my father to just give in to her than to argue with her. My mother worries about it being cold outside that they'll catch pneumonia, she worries about us driving to & from work because we could get into a car accident, my sister-in-law taking the train to & from work because soemone could get on the train and start shooting like happened once all those years ago.

I believe that her feeling is that worrying about everything is the sign of a good wife & mother, and, in fact, it has done more harm than good. I know she has tried her best, and there are many good things about my mother, so I don't mean to make her sound like she is a terrible person, but the extreme worrying was always a problem for us, and did impact our lives and not in a good way.

In my mother's case, I think her pathological worrying had something ot do with having an alcoholic father. She never had a sense of calm or control or security growing up, and was always anxious about what would it be like when she got home? I think that constant feeling of insecurity or unpredictability makes her HATE anything that goes outside of her very small comfort zone.

So please, do yourself and your family a favor and figure out why you worry so much and how to fix it.
 
True--but it is more likely that a pedestrian hit by a car to die...than a kid in a car involved in a collision to die. Air Bags, crumple zones, safety belts and boosters (as my 10yo is still stuck in), frame of the vehicle all help to keep the passengers safe. As a pedestrian...your body takes ALL of the impact. So it really isn't a valid comparison.
Actually, you are wrong.

In 2008, 37,261 passengers were killed in car accidents in the United States.

In comparison...

In 2008, 4,378 pedestrians were killed by being struck by a car in the United States.

Coincidentally, the leading cause of death for kids between 2 and 14 is motor vehicle accidents.
 
In OP's defense...a 50mph 2 lane highway with no sidewalks is not a customarily safe place for children to be for activity. I'll be sure to ask my husband for the male POV when he gets home.:rotfl:

You should ask your husband. Honestly I don't know how unsafe that road is, I've never seen it. The idea of that kind of road sorta freaks me out. But you know I'm a worrier, I worry unnecessarily myself sometimes. I might be more likely to trust the judgement of a man who walks on it regularly and obviously doesn't want his daughter to die either.

Well, then you are looking to be offended then.

Moms and dads parent differently. But it can't be discussed b/c it is "sexist".

Exceptions don't eliminate what has been shown in studies.

I had links, but opted to remove them. But men "in general" are bigger risk takers than women. There was a fascinating study in Columbia where they created a scenario that eliminated any bias to favor men or women. What they found was pretty neat. It did not say if men were offended by the results. It also didn't say that all the women were more cautious than men. But that it trended that way.

And there is a strong tendancy that that conveys into parenting.

That is not a bad thing or anything to be offended by.

It doesn't surprise me that men are more likely to be risk takers and women are more cautious. But that doesn't mean being cautious is better and being a risk taker is worse. And it doesn't mean that a cautious parent is actually better.
An overly cautious parent can be just as detrimental to a child if he/she imparts unnecessary anxiety onto the child. Anxiety can be just as detrimental as impulsive behavior. The difference is that the negative consequences of impulsive behavior are just more obvious to others.
 


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