So what do you do?

[meandtheguys2]

I don't know why specific people got banned. I do not know the whole story and whoever does is not talking. I do know that hurting peoples' feelings is the primary purpose of that board so I have trouble feeling particularly sorry for those who post there regularly. I am sorry for the people here who are quite understandably shocked by the upheaval.

People speaking freely is about them having the right to do so. Not about the want or need to hurt other's feelings. If someone wants to post there that I am a nutcase for homeschooling my kids, or allowing my boys to use the men's room...or whatever...who cares? It gives a place to express these feelings. It really is not about me, nor is the intention to "hurt" me. It is to say what they feel without being banned. Or so they thought.

There are people on that list who've never ragged on anyone here, and have stuck up for this board, and the rights of the owners to do as they choose with their board.

 

[Buckalew11]

Honestly, DMickey28, I think if you post on the CB, people *know* you. JMHO. I know you, I'd miss your posts.

I think on the CB if you have Tink in your screenname or eeyore or Princess (also connected to MOMof), you may not have as clear of an identity in general but with "friends" you will no matter what your screenename is!

 

[beanjean]

What is the other board that everyone is referring to? Where did everyone go that got banned. It just isn't goign to be the same here from now on. What happened?

 

[Yardbird]

There are people who are gone that haven't done anything and then there are people who are still here and are blatantly taunting and attacking others but because they're kissing bum they get to stick around. It just doesn't make sense.

Bingo. I've distanced myself from the dis quite a bit since last year, and don't really know those who have been banned in the most recent turn of events. I still like to read the trip reports, and the planning boards, but don't really get involved in any of them. At one time I LOVED this place, not so much anymore. I've made lasting friendships through the dis, and for that I am grateful.

 

[Laura]

I wonder if anyone even knows me.

I do!

 

[beanjean]

Also, what list are ya'll talking about? Where can I go to see the list of people that got banned?

 

[Fitswimmer]

Also, what list are ya'll talking about? Where can I go to see the list of people that got banned?

Posting it will cause the poster to be banned

 

[Aisling]

I miss Mirthmaiden. We were not really friends, but I enjoyed her wit. I really like her, and hope she comes back.
This whole think really is sad, and I hope Pete's working on a fair solution. Maybe allow a "start over" and everyone will agree that some of us have been mean but we'll all calm down and agree that our emotions got out of control. I guess I'm speaking for myself, as it was mentioned somewhere that I've let my emotions get out of control. To the person who said that about me this morning elsewhere, please email me, I'd like to explain a few things about myself to you.

To the mods, thanks for letting this thread continue. Everyone has been civil. You have a tough job, because things were really getting out of control, and it wasn't fair to innocent Disers to have the boards disrupted so often by true Dis haters. But not all of the banned were Dis haters. I hope you can get rid of the trouble and keep the good. I love being on the Dis, and I know it can be a great fair fun place again. Keep working on it, Pete and Alex.

 

[betz]

Oh well, I haven't logged on for almost a year.
Good to see nothing has changed.

 

[mickeysgal]

What goes on here, what goes on "there", what has gone on there in the past, whatever. I really don't want to see this thread turn into anything other than what it started as - a place to express our sadness. And there is a lot of sadness and confusion out there right now.

All I know is that I miss so many folks. Some of my favorite threads have ground to a complete halt and even if they manage to pick up again, will never be the same. I value people's opinions, even if they don't always match mine. They opened my eyes to different sides of topics - that's how you learn and grow. Over the years, I've read far more than I've posted. There is no spark or fizzle to the CB anymore. I, like others have posted, am afraid to post here right now for fear I'm doing the wrong thing.

 

[beattyfamily]

This is just so sad and disappointing. Again, a big shake up and we can't talk about it and we loose a bunch of longtime DISers.

 

[kinntj]

I'm saddened by what has been done and the DIS community seems empty. The familiarity of the boards is gone and it's hard for us who have known that to go on like nothing has happened. I lov the DIS partly because of the people that are one it and become fixtures on the threads.

I really don't think that people should have to choose between where they go. Just wanted those members who are now gone that we do miss them.

 

[maddhatir]

that's how I feel too-I know plenty of people who were never nasty, didn't break any written rules and were banned anyway. Shoot, a couple of folks were banned while they weren't even in town!!

Love your siggy, btw.

I also had another friend who is now MIA b/c of...... "guilty by association" That's all, "guilty by association"- she is always as sweet as can be as I am sure a lot of MIA peeps are.....were......still are.....

She was also out of town...didn't have a clue!

 

[Tink's Pixieduster]

I am very glad to see this discussion taking place. Sincere and genuine questions have been posted over the past couple of days, and those posters are no longer here. I don't know whether they were banned or received points, but the fact is the threads are gone and I have not seen the posters return.

I originally came to these boards for trip planning and found a community. The community I knew has been torn apart. The disappearance of more than 80 DISers in the past week is sad and and I believe in most cases wrong. Some, in an apparent attempt to keep this issue on the front burner, threw themselves under the bus and went out with YAGE (Yet Another Grand Exit). Some posts on here in the past couple of days were over the top and IMO crossed a line, but at least I understood the frustration that drove them to it (I was a teen in the 60's; if there is one thing I understand it is protests). I think most of us who have been here for any time (although I only registered in 2005, I began lurking in 1999) grew frustrated with the continued banishments with no explanation.

The websites I visit or decide to post on is no concern of the DIS boards as long as I abide by the rules here, and I always have. The only infraction I ever received was for a siggie being too big after the siggie rules changed. I have not posted a hot topic thread and have backed away from many.

I feel the heated response to the uncalled-for banishments should have been anticipated by the administrators of this board and been addressed before it got out of hand. Some of those who took themselves out with YAGE over this past weekend might still be here (we all have choices to make; that was theirs and I won't argue right or wrong) if a better explanation had been provided early last week. Giving us vague inferences of lawyers only served to heat things up further, and is often seen as a red flag. If lawyers were truly involved, could they not have drafted a statement that would have mollified DISers and prevented the unfortunate DIS-cide of many over this past weekend?

As I said, we all have choices. I have not posted much in the past week, mainly because I've been upset about the way events took place, and a continued lack of attention to discontent. I haven't posted because its hard to reply to the millionth post about refillable mugs and not lose my temper because the "Search" function has never been fully resolved. I do not understand why the apparent work on re-directs was taking place when "Search" isn't working right and hasn't for years.

Be that as it may, I have not yet chosen YAGE, and likely will not - I may just not post any more, or possibly I'll be told my opinion is disruptive and be given points. TBD.

 

[Buckalew11]

I don't know why specific people got banned. I do not know the whole story and whoever does is not talking. I do know that hurting peoples' feelings is the primary purpose of that board so I have trouble feeling particularly sorry for those who post there regularly. I am sorry for the people here who are quite understandably shocked by the upheaval.

People speaking freely is about them having the right to do so. Not about the want or need to hurt other's feelings. If someone wants to post there that I am a nutcase for homeschooling my kids, or allowing my boys to use the men's room...or whatever...who cares? It gives a place to express these feelings. It really is not about me, nor is the intention to "hurt" me. It is to say what they feel without being banned. Or so they thought.

There are people on that list who've never ragged on anyone here, and have stuck up for this board, and the rights of the owners to do as they choose with their board.

I've always been mixed about all that speaking freely stuff (esp. when it is particularly nasty). Yeah, I suppose freedom of speech says people can say all that stuff but I do not think it makes it all right to do so. I've been made fun of there and it hurt, yet, there were a few people who actually stick up for me and that was nice to read. Sometimes it is hard to say, "who cares?" Is the intention to hurt people? I'm not sure.

I think it is an awful lot like "middle school girl meaness" (and I'm not calling it that to not say men aren't involved because they are). Not sure why people feel the need to be bothered by homeschooling, bathroom issues etc. Let's just say that if you post on the CB and you get 10 replies and 9 are nice and one is not, you tend to dwell on the one not so nice post. I've seen it over and over again. In fact, I saw it happen last night on a thread. So why wouldn't what a whole thread of snarky remarks on another board hurt another person's feelings?

I'm betting in RL most of the comments would never be said to the person or so the person could hear the remarks being made. I just do not think we take others feelings into account often enough.

 

[Jack-Jack]

I may just not post any more, or possibly I'll be told my opinion is disruptive and be given points. TBD.

I feel the same way. Many of the reasons I post here are gone. Personalities diminished. All that.

 

[maddhatir]

I feel the heated response to the uncalled-for banishments should have been anticipated by the administrators of this board and been addressed before it got out of hand. Some of those who took themselves out with YAGE over this past weekend might still be here (we all have choices to make; that was theirs and I won't argue right or wrong) if a better explanation had been provided early last week.

ITA- I personally think those who took themselves out as you say with YAGE- it was all out of frustration.

They just wanted answers and were not getting them, hence- the blow ups...............

 

[crcormier]

Do you stay? Do you risk following your friends?

I don't like being forced to make decisions.

It is hard, I have many now that have been forced to be in one place or the other. But my wife posts here as well, so while I don't care so much about myself, I wouldn't want to do something that ended up getting her banned because of my own choice. And I don't like being forced into this position. It has made me very sad for all involved.

 

[fan_of_small_world]

I posted this on the "roll call" thread, but in response to some of the people talking about "over there" I'm using what I already typed...

"I'm here, although I don't think anyone really knows me or would wonder where I went, except a few of the nice folks on Walt's Warriors team. I just recently received my WISH Racing Team running shirts and hat, and I'd like to be able to wear them in the half marathon in WDW in January. The people on that board have inspired me and keep me motivated. ETA: I'd really hate to lose that connection.

I also read there, and have posted occassionally. There are some really great people there, and to lump them all together is a mistake. Yes, there are some there that are outright crude and hurtful, so I skip those posts and threads. There are people here that are the same way, though - they're usually just more subtle about it since these boards are moderated. There are positives and negatives to both places, and as an adult I am capable of choosing to deal with the negatives in order to enjoy the positives."

 

[meandtheguys2]

I've always been mixed about all that speaking freely stuff (esp. when it is particularly nasty). Yeah, I suppose freedom of speech says people can say all that stuff but I do not think it makes it all right to do so. I've been made fun of there and it hurt, yet, there were a few people who actually stick up for me and that was nice to read. Sometimes it is hard to say, "who cares?" Is the intention to hurt people? I'm not sure.

I think it is an awful lot like "middle school girl meaness" (and I'm not calling it that to not say men aren't involved because they are). Not sure why people feel the need to be bothered by homeschooling, bathroom issues etc. Let's just say that if you post on the CB and you get 10 replies and 9 are nice and one is not, you tend to dwell on the one not so nice post. I've seen it over and over again. In fact, I saw it happen last night on a thread. So why wouldn't what a whole thread of snarky remarks on another board hurt another person's feelings?

I'm betting in RL most of the comments would never be said to the person or so the person could hear the remarks being made. I just do not think we take others feelings into account often enough.

I see your point, but I also believe that it is a personal thing. If I'm okay with me and my conscience about what I have stated, then, I'm okay. Other people have different personal viewpoints of appropriate behavior. I like many people IRL who have differing opinion, and express them in ways that I would not choose. Maybe it is all the years I've spent in counseling, but I believe expressing oneself isn't a terrible thing. If saying someone is totally out of line there allowed someone to stay quiet here and follow the guidelines, that isn't a bad thing. Because sometimes people here are totally whacked. It is merely a matter of statistics! Same there, same everywhere!

My opinion. As far as middle school meaness, that comes out here, there, and everywhere. Also a dimple matter of statistics.