Smoking & stroller wagons banned May 1!

[lcp9]

It's useful and realistic -- many people posted right here that they actually do it. It can be done. I think what you mean is you don't like it and you're not going to do it.

Well, I suppose you can ignore the others that said that was not useful or realistic for them either. You’ll notice I qualified with “many”, not “all” or even “most.” I seem to remember from previous threads that although you chime in on kid-specific topics like “is it always manageable to take one kid in a family to a hotel to nap?” you mentioned you don’t have children, so I find this comment interesting.

 

[agamble]

A friend and I were discussing the change in policy the other night. She commented on the people using strollers (especially the wagons) as rolling lockers and mentioned someone she knows whose children are all adults now but who brings a stroller packed with items and no kid inside. I also recall a blog article I read about a large family staying at a rental home and how they discovered the rental came with a stroller, so they packed their own stroller with a kid and stuff as normal and then proceeded to pack the rental stroller as well.

This I do not understand. It amazes me how much stuff people feel they need. More than can fit in a backpack! We bring snacks, water, and maybe sunblock (diapers too when we were in that stage). When returning in the evening we may bring a blanket and let the kids carry their bubble wands for parade/show waiting. Because we are still in the stroller age we throw these items in our small basket. When our youngest is too old for the stroller we will go back to carrying a backpack.

 

[lcp9]

A friend and I were discussing the change in policy the other night. She commented on the people using strollers (especially the wagons) as rolling lockers and mentioned someone she knows whose children are all adults now but who brings a stroller packed with items and no kid inside. I also recall a blog article I read about a large family staying at a rental home and how they discovered the rental came with a stroller, so they packed their own stroller with a kid and stuff as normal and then proceeded to pack the rental stroller as well.

This I do not understand. It amazes me how much stuff people feel they need. More than can fit in a backpack! We bring snacks, water, and maybe sunblock (diapers too when we were in that stage). When returning in the evening we may bring a blanket and let the kids carry their bubble wands for parade/show waiting. Because we are still in the stroller age we throw these items in our small basket. When our youngest is too old for the stroller we will go back to carrying a backpack.

I totally agree that I’m not sure why you would do this - it’s not like we ENJOY needing a stroller. In fact, our 4th is 8 months old and I kind of want a 5th and my husband is like “do you have any idea how close we are to not having to bring tons of crap like strollers and car seats on vacations with us??”

 

[CO2CA]

I'm happy with the changes, however I wish they would take it a step further and ban most ECVs.

It's funny when everyone is trying to walk out of the park at the end of fireworks or a parade and out of nowhere you hear a faint but growing "beeeeep, beeeep" and think what in the world is that? Then you realize it's someone going full speed ahead in an ECV honking their horn several times a minute to let all the walkers know they need to jump to safety...now! Or when you're minding your own business and see an ECV barreling across Main Street, almost having a t-bone style accident between heavy metal and your tibula. Or watching kids steer it on grandma's lap.

 

[mom2rtk]

I'm happy with the changes, however I wish they would take it a step further and ban most ECVs.

It's funny when everyone is trying to walk out of the park at the end of fireworks or a parade and out of nowhere you hear a faint but growing "beeeeep, beeeep" and think what in the world is that? Then you realize it's someone going full speed ahead in an ECV honking their horn several times a minute to let all the walkers know they need to jump to safety...now! Or when you're minding your own business and see an ECV barreling across Main Street, almost having a t-bone style accident between heavy metal and your tibula. Or watching kids steer it on grandma's lap.

That's awful. But I don't think a ban is the answer. They DO need to empower and encourage their CMs to step in when things like that happen though. And staff at times like that to have CMs available if needed.

 

[alvernon90]

you mentioned you don’t have children

Good grief, did I really say that? My daughter is going to have a serious "Father, why have you forsaken me" moment! Either that, or you are confusing me with someone else.

 

[HydroGuy]

I'm happy with the changes, however I wish they would take it a step further and ban most ECVs.

It's funny when everyone is trying to walk out of the park at the end of fireworks or a parade and out of nowhere you hear a faint but growing "beeeeep, beeeep" and think what in the world is that? Then you realize it's someone going full speed ahead in an ECV honking their horn several times a minute to let all the walkers know they need to jump to safety...now! Or when you're minding your own business and see an ECV barreling across Main Street, almost having a t-bone style accident between heavy metal and your tibula. Or watching kids steer it on grandma's lap.

ECVs do cause a lot of congestion issues, but I have never witnessed what you describe. Not sure what can be done about that. And in my experience strollers are a bigger congestion headache.

I had four kids and we never, not once, took a stroller to DLR.

 

[RamblingMad]

I have never seen anyone smoke in DL/DCA. I have seen crazy strollers though. I'm guessing a lot of the smokers will now spend more time at DCA since the resort is connected to the park.

 

[Indiana Scott]

I've seen lots of people sneaking smokes in the parks. I've also seen lots of those pompous EV opertators (not all are such) that feel they should allowed to push through the crowds of other people rather than take their turn and just move with the flow.
I have to admit, I have made disparaging comments to a couple of them.

 

[MrsD.Duck]

I am happy with the new stroller rules, over the years it seems that they have gotten out of control. As for the EV issue I think there should be some type of speed control that can't be turned off. I had one lady on one yell at me that if I didn't move out of her way she would run over me. I turned around and told her go ahead and I will own her and everything she had, she slowed way down after that.

 

[DizMe]

I had four kids and we never, not once, took a stroller to DLR.

Same, only I had 5 (one set of twins). It was more because we didn't want the hassle of taking toddlers to DL than anything else because we don't live nearby, so we waited until they were 4. Worked out for us, but everyone is different and probably had we lived nearer we would have come when they were younger.

 

[HydroGuy]

Same, only I had 5 (one set of twins). It was more because we didn't want the hassle of taking toddlers to DL than anything else because we don't live nearby, so we waited until they were 4. Worked out for us, but everyone is different and probably had we lived nearer we would have come when they were younger.

Same and same. It worked maybe better for us than others well because the four were all within 5 years of each other. Our cutoff was 3, but practically it turned out more like 4 or 5 years for some of them.

 

[Tinkerbell19672]

I'm happy with the changes, however I wish they would take it a step further and ban most ECVs.

It's funny when everyone is trying to walk out of the park at the end of fireworks or a parade and out of nowhere you hear a faint but growing "beeeeep, beeeep" and think what in the world is that? Then you realize it's someone going full speed ahead in an ECV honking their horn several times a minute to let all the walkers know they need to jump to safety...now! Or when you're minding your own business and see an ECV barreling across Main Street, almost having a t-bone style accident between heavy metal and your tibula. Or watching kids steer it on grandma's lap.

The ECVs are out of control. I know someone whose footwas run over and knocked over and the ECV person just kept going. She needed surgery on her foot and is still having issues with it. A lot of them push their way through crowds almost like they don’t care if they bump into someone. Why should they push ahead of everyone else? Not cool IMO

 

[lcp9]

The ECVs are out of control. I know someone whose footwas run over and knocked over and the ECV person just kept going. She needed surgery on her foot and is still having issues with it. A lot of them push their way through crowds almost like they don’t care if they bump into someone. Why should they push ahead of everyone else? Not cool IMO

I suspect there are a decent amount of ECV users that use them not because of an injury/disability, because they physically cannot handle walking what is generally required from most disneyland trips due to tiredness. It's interesting to me that that's okay with people, yet there was a lot of discussion earlier in this thread about how 3 year olds, who also get tired, "should just walk." And when our toddlers have walked, that's when they've gotten run over by ECVs. hahaha.

 

[Tinkerbell19672]

I suspect there are a decent amount of ECV users that use them not because of an injury/disability, because they physically cannot handle walking what is generally required from most disneyland trips due to tiredness. It's interesting to me that that's okay with people, yet there was a lot of discussion earlier in this thread about how 3 year olds, who also get tired, "should just walk." And when our toddlers have walked, that's when they've gotten run over by ECVs. hahaha.

If that’s the case, they should just walk. I get tired too, everyone does

 

[NannyBeBe]

We have been going to DLR every other year since our twins were born 36 years ago. Back then we were in excellent health. Now we are seniors. I can still walk easily in DLR but my husband's health issues require that he use an ECV. We still both enjoy DLR. My husband does not go fast or bump into anyone in the ECV. Should we stay home now that we are older and cannot keep up the pace of the younger crowd?

 

[WaterLinds]

We have been going to DLR every other year since our twins were born 36 years ago. Back then we were in excellent health. Now we are seniors. I can still walk easily in DLR but my husband's health issues require that he use an ECV. We still both enjoy DLR. My husband does not go fast or bump into anyone in the ECV. Should we stay home now that we are older and cannot keep up the pace of the younger crowd?

Hopefully we can all continue to enjoy the parks without anyone feeling they need to hide at home.

I think the bottom line is that,whether it’s strollers or ECVs, it’s impossible for a bystander to genuinely know what the passenger’s level of need is, and as a society we’re probably best served by assuming positive intent. Does the person in the ECV have a mobility challenge or are they lazy? Should that kid who looks like he’s 8 be up and walking or is he actually a really big toddler or has a disability? It’s not really an outsider’s call, the people involved have the most information and are hopefully making the best decisions for themselves and their family.

And at the same time, those operating strollers or ECVs need to treat fellow guests with respect. I have been nearly run over by several ECVs and strollers, mostly due to carelessness in difficult, crowded conditions. I don’t think most people are being malicious about it, though many could be more careful and show concern or remorse if they do get too close. (And in full honesty, on our last WDW trip I did clip the edge of a lady’s flip flop with my stroller wheel. The crowd was pushing together and she got funneled into my path, I don’t think she intentionally stepped there but I also couldn’t stop in time. I apologized profusely, checked to make sure I had not injured her—I just caught the shoe, fortunately! She was pretty salty about it, but hopefully her day improved from there. Mine did!)

 

[theluckyrabbit]

Stepping in again with a reminder to keep this thread on topic, namely: the new rules and changes regarding smoking, stroller size, wagons, and loose/dry ice.
Let's continue to keep the comments respectful and not personal. Thank you!

 

[lcp9]

We have been going to DLR every other year since our twins were born 36 years ago. Back then we were in excellent health. Now we are seniors. I can still walk easily in DLR but my husband's health issues require that he use an ECV. We still both enjoy DLR. My husband does not go fast or bump into anyone in the ECV. Should we stay home now that we are older and cannot keep up the pace of the younger crowd?

Absolutely not. Everyone should be welcome! And I would hope that people would not tell us, a family that regularly brings infants and toddlers who can't walk all day (...or walk at all) and require a stroller, that we don't belong at Disneyland either. Disneyland of all places!

 

[lcp9]

Hopefully we can all continue to enjoy the parks without anyone feeling they need to hide at home.

I think the bottom line is that,whether it’s strollers or ECVs, it’s impossible for a bystander to genuinely know what the passenger’s level of need is, and as a society we’re probably best served by assuming positive intent. Does the person in the ECV have a mobility challenge or are they lazy? Should that kid who looks like he’s 8 be up and walking or is he actually a really big toddler or has a disability? It’s not really an outsider’s call, the people involved have the most information and are hopefully making the best decisions for themselves and their family.

And at the same time, those operating strollers or ECVs need to treat fellow guests with respect. I have been nearly run over by several ECVs and strollers, mostly due to carelessness in difficult, crowded conditions. I don’t think most people are being malicious about it, though many could be more careful and show concern or remorse if they do get too close. (And in full honesty, on our last WDW trip I did clip the edge of a lady’s flip flop with my stroller wheel. The crowd was pushing together and she got funneled into my path, I don’t think she intentionally stepped there but I also couldn’t stop in time. I apologized profusely, checked to make sure I had not injured her—I just caught the shoe, fortunately! She was pretty salty about it, but hopefully her day improved from there. Mine did!)

100% all of this. I would hope that people could be happy enough to be there that they wouldn't let strollers/otherwise ruin their trip. I mean...this happens in any crowded place. And excellent point about just minding your own business. My kids are well above 40" at 2 years old, I'm sure people think we're toting 5 year olds around in strollers all day. Oh well.