Sister Wives

I have found this show to be interesting. It is a very different lifestyle than what I have, and there is no way I'm sharing my husband. NO WAY, NO HOW.

I think that I am "done" with this show. No doubt - there will be a "next" season. I will not be watching it. I am sick of Robyn offering to be a surrogate. I don't know - it is just patronizing. And...as with all of the TLC shows - they jump the shark when the show becomes a commercial. This last week it was. There was the jewelry, the book and then the "click" of the remote.

I'm done with this one.

Must be time for another trip for Kate Plus 8.
 
What I really do not understand is the fact that the marriages are not legal and so why would they prosecute? How is it different from some guy with 4 gf's and a bunch of kids. He has not legally married these women so what's to prosecute? Just cause he calls them his wives means nothing if he called them his gf's would they go after him?

I think it has to do with the fact that UTAH is one of 11 states that recognize common law marriages. As long as they live together and have a reputation of being husband and wife, then they are legally married via the "common law". Thus making them polygamists which is indeed illegal. At least that was how I understood it.
 
I'm a christian, I would love the bible verse for this
Actually, this is true; you can find examples of polygamy and prostitution in the Bible. I don't know verses, but I'll list some folks from the Bible that you'll recognize:

Abraham -- married to Sarah, took her handmaiden as a second wife to have a child

Tamar -- disguised herself as a prostitute to trap her father in law (was it Judah?) because he wouldn't fulfill his family obligations to her

Jacob -- married both of Laban's daughters, Rachel and Leah

David and his son Solomon -- sort of the playboys of the Old Testament, these two each married many women (Solomon had 1000 wives; well, some were concubines, but the point is still valid), yet David is called "A man after God's own heart"

Rahab -- prostitute who hid Jacob, then helped him and his fellow spy escape the city, was an ancestor of Jesus . . . however, the Bible also mentions her faith, so I suppose she changed her occupation and we can take this as a story of redemption

However, every one of these examples is from the Old Testament. I cannot give a single example of a multiple marriage from the New Testament, which seems to be an indication that society was evolving away from that idea. In fact, Ephisians gives specific instructions on how husbands and wives are to treat one another, and those verses use singular nouns and pronouns -- not plural, which also indicates that multiple marriage was no longer considered appropriate.

You could also make a strong argument about "then vs. now" using Sociology and Anthropology rather than the Bible itself: In the Old Testament, society was nothing like ours today. Slavery was accepted, though it wasn't anything like slavery in America so many years later: Many slaves were essentially like us middle-class folks today, working for someone else. The focus of the entire family was the oldest son; he would inherit half his father's wealth, but he'd also inherit the responsibility of continuing to care for his father's wives, any young children the father left behind, his business, and his servants -- he couldn't turn down this responsibility. And clearly their society cared about providing protection for unmarried/widowed women -- a woman on her own was really in dire straits; they had rules about leaving so much grain in the fields for man-less women to gather, they had rules about a younger brother siring a child with his widowed sister-in-law, they had rules about providing for elderly and childless widows. Today a single woman can provide for herself, so those rules aren't needed.

Anyway, it's really not fair to look back at those days and say, "This is okay because you can find examples in the Bible". That'd be cherry-picking one detail from their society and trying to transport that one item into modern-day life. That just wouldn't work in the big picture -- you might just as well say that we are still required to take blood sacrafices to the high priest in a temple.
 
What I really do not understand is the fact that the marriages are not legal and so why would they prosecute? How is it different from some guy with 4 gf's and a bunch of kids. He has not legally married these women so what's to prosecute? Just cause he calls them his wives means nothing if he called them his gf's would they go after him?
Yeah, I don't understand that either. You can find plenty of men who've had children with multiple women -- even some who are still involved with those multiple women, and the women are okay with it!

Lots of us have a problem with that morally, but legally it's not a crime.
 

Yeah, I don't understand that either. You can find plenty of men who've had children with multiple women -- even some who are still involved with those multiple women, and the women are okay with it!

Lots of us have a problem with that morally, but legally it's not a crime.

I agree that I don't think it should be prosecuted as a crime- consenting adults and all that.....

But, I think the legal position is that the women are his "common law" wives. It has been my understanding that if you behave as spouses, present yourselves as spouses, and live together for a certain number of years, you have a "common law" marriage, which has the same legal consequences as a legal marriage. It has been many years since I learned this, and I don't know if this also applies in Utah. Of course I am no legal expert, so maybe I'm wrong. But I figured that this is the basis of the polygamy investigation.
 
What I really do not understand is the fact that the marriages are not legal and so why would they prosecute? How is it different from some guy with 4 gf's and a bunch of kids. He has not legally married these women so what's to prosecute? Just cause he calls them his wives means nothing if he called them his gf's would they go after him?

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that: 1) the state of Utah and the Church of LDS (which holds a lot of influence in Utah) both want to separate themselves from their polygamist past and a famous polygamist family from Utah could be seen as reinforcing that stereotype, and 2) the law is useful way to nail those polygamists who break other laws (underage marriage, child abuse, welfare fraud, etc.) and the Brown family was publicly flaunting that law.

I really and truly don't care how people want to live their lives or construct their families, but I think a pretty good case could be made for the fact that polygamist marriage isn't good for society and most criminal laws are designed to look out for society's interest. For example, very few men could afford to support that many wives and children, it leads to less involvement for fathers, creates a shortage of potential spouses for young men, etc.
 
Anyone want to bring this thread back to life and discuss this season?? I am wondering what each of those houses cost they are buying! The income from the show must be buying them...
 
I'm rather tired of them having credit drama while they pick out wet bars etc. for four new homes.

I am curious if fertility treatments are covered by insurance in Nevada?

I assume TLC will be picking up the tab for that too.
 
I'm rather tired of them having credit drama while they pick out wet bars etc. for four new homes.

I am curious if fertility treatments are covered by insurance in Nevada?

I assume TLC will be picking up the tab for that too.

I didn't get to watch last night. Who is having infertility treatments? - Meri? OMG! :scared1:
 
Meri is deciding whether to go through invitro.

I supposed that will be the big cliffhanger at the end of this season.

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I'm also over their "we have no money" I want a wet bar and craft room. GMAFB. I'm finding them very boring this season. I'm sure their salaries from the show are buying the houses.

I really like the show when it first came on, now not so much. Their made up drama promo's aren't even drawing me in.
 
Once these shows hit the "watch me spend all the money I'm making from the show" stage, they get very boring. That appears to be what we have here.
 
I wonder what will become of them when the show is over and they don't have all the money anymore. Will they be able to keep the homes? I don't think any of them are working right now. They just have their jewelry/clothing website. Is anyone really going to buy any of that stuff?

I can't wait to see that other polyg family next week.

Also, I was surprised that Maddie is the only one who said she does not want the lifestyle.
 
I wonder what will become of them when the show is over and they don't have all the money anymore. Will they be able to keep the homes? I don't think any of them are working right now. They just have their jewelry/clothing website. Is anyone really going to buy any of that stuff?

I can't wait to see that other polyg family next week.

Also, I was surprised that Maddie is the only one who said she does not want the lifestyle.

A few of the boys have said they only wanted one wife.
 
I have a feeling that Janelle is almost done with being a sister wife. She seems really really unhappy. I agree that Mari shouldn't be giving the same amount of money since she doens't have as many kids.


I thought it was cruel when Cody said I can have more kids. What a slap in the face to Mari
 
I was laughing at Meri's insistence on a wet bar when they don't even drink! 5 bedrooms and she has one child leaving for college in a year?!?!
 
I have a feeling that Janelle is almost done with being a sister wife. She seems really really unhappy. I agree that Mari shouldn't be giving the same amount of money since she doens't have as many kids.


I thought it was cruel when Cody said I can have more kids. What a slap in the face to Mari

Now she is going to have 5 bedrooms while everyone else has 4. I'd be ticked off by this too if my kids all had to share bedrooms and stuff in together while she has a house full of empty bedrooms. SHe does seem to insist she wants more than everyone without actually explaining why or what she plans to do with all the empty rooms. Her one child is going to college. ALl the rooms will be empty.
 
What about when her "other" children come spend the night? Where will they sleep if she doesn't have enough bedrooms? I am sure they spend the night every now and again with the other "moms."
 
What about when her "other" children come spend the night? Where will they sleep if she doesn't have enough bedrooms? I am sure they spend the night every now and again with the other "moms."

At there house?? What about the other mom who don't have enough room for there own kids.
 














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