Should Disney build a state of the art Hypercoaster????

[wareagle57]

I guess this is the thing I get most passionate about and offended by. I know it's not as if dis polls are what Disney execs use to make decisions, but it still really irks me how against this at least half of you are. If it can be done in a way that doesn't take away from the theming of a park, why would you not want us coaster enthusiasts to have this?

 

[Planogirl]

I guess this is the thing I get most passionate about and offended by. I know it's not as if dis polls are what Disney execs use to make decisions, but it still really irks me how against this at least half of you are. If it can be done in a way that doesn't take away from the theming of a park, why would you not want us coaster enthusiasts to have this?

I agree. I only ride the milder coasters but I see nothing wrong with Disney building a great coaster if it's done right. Disney is (or was ) more than capable of theming attractions appropriately so why not a coaster?

 

[DisneyFive]

I say no. I would much rather they sink the money into imaginative new ride experiences. As someone who has lived an hour from a Six Flags all my life, I love insane MEga Coasters, but have never felt they were too creative. Every season build one a little bigger, a little faster with a bigger loop, rinse and repeat. It's cool and all but not very imaginative. let the imagineers put their minds to Disney related fun that can be used by more than adults/teens.

Pretty much how I feel too. I don't go to Disney for hyper/thrilling coasters, and not sure I would want to. I've done all the crazy coasters at the amusement parks near me, (including the Millenium Force at Cedar Point), but to me, they don't "fit" with what Disney has going on at WDW.

I could see another "medium" coaster, something along the thrill factor of RnRC or a little more wild, with some super theming, but not a mega or giga coaster. They take up the skyline since they are SO huge, and they are also loud. Screaming people whizzing by every minute or so with the loud sound of the cars and track included. No thanks, not at Disney.

Dan

 

[BrianL]

I guess this is the thing I get most passionate about and offended by. I know it's not as if dis polls are what Disney execs use to make decisions, but it still really irks me how against this at least half of you are. If it can be done in a way that doesn't take away from the theming of a park, why would you not want us coaster enthusiasts to have this?

I think most people here would not have a problem with it IF the theming could be incorporated in a great way, they just don't think it can (or would) be done. THat's how I feel, if they can theme it up right, why not.

I did have a thought for the family ride crowd. If they did a bigger coaster intertwined with a family one, same theming, just a "Green Team Less Intense" kind of experience, they could satisfy both audiences (and have more capacity for the same attraction).

 

[LBIJim]

. I've always wanted to go to Magic Mountain!!!! Colossus looks very cool......this is the Walley World coaster!!!! That's on my bucket list.
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You better do it by Aug 16th then! Because that's the last day Colossus will run

We are making a special trip at the end of July to get in one last ride before they dismantle it

I hadn't heard that Colossus will be closing. But it doesn't really surprise me. I got my final ride, perhaps the 50th, last year. It really looked crappy.

Unfortunately, TooExcited, Colossus has been toned down from it's Walley World days. They retracked it somewhat, taking out one or two of its double dips and making it less intense. But it's still a decent ride.

As for Disney, I changed my mind as well. I was all for ONE mega-coaster, not half a dozen or more. But now I agree with others that one might be too many for a Disney park. That's why I mentioned Cheetah Hunt as an excellent compromise. IMO more thrilling than anything on Disney's roster, but able to be themed and, if situated correctly, not be a visual distraction.

Now if Disney ever opens a 5th gate, oh yeah, give it 2 or 3 kick butt coasters with a villian theme.

Jim

 

[LilyWDW]

I said other.

Honestly, I could care less one way or another EXCEPT for the fact that if they do build it, they would have to figure out how to theme it. I would hate for them to just build one of those ugly things (and they really are ugly) and do nothing to hide it. It would stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[luvthemouse71]

I voted other. I don't think it's a terrible idea, but I also don't think it's needed.

What I like about WDW is that it leans more towards rides that everyone can do together. I have a ride chicken sister and family and friends that can't ride many big thrill rides because of health issues.

I can ride them, but I don't like them enough to want Disney to build one.

 

[luvthemouse71]

I guess this is the thing I get most passionate about and offended by. I know it's not as if dis polls are what Disney execs use to make decisions, but it still really irks me how against this at least half of you are. If it can be done in a way that doesn't take away from the theming of a park, why would you not want us coaster enthusiasts to have this?

We are all entitled to an opinion..you asked,we told you.

Getting offended because people don't agree with you is silly.

 

[Ellwood970]

Disney tells stories, they don't just build big metal roller coasters. God knows there's a millions (Cheaper!) amusement parks out there is you want roller coasters. Personally, I think that's what sets Disney a part from the "competition," they do things there way.

except for din plans in animal kingdom built on the cheap.

 

[mrsbicewdw]

No. A megacoaster's giant hunk of steel would detract from the theming.

Agreed. They are not imaginative or what Disney is about. I can spend far less money and time if I just want to go do coasters at any thrill park. But whiplash isn't what I'm aiming for on a family vacation.

 

[mrsbicewdw]

I know the Florida water table is wonky, but is there a way they could build DOWN instead of up? Like scoop out a big chunk of land and put the coaster down in the hole? Then it wouldn't mess with sight lines. And as long as there is a story and it's themed, I'm all for it. I remember seeing plans once for a dueling coaster that was Star Wars themed where one side was the rebellion and the cars were X-Wings and the other side was the Empire and the cars were tie fighters and they duels around the track.

Florida's water table would not allow for this. Even a basement in Florida is rare! Dig that deep and you make a pond...or find a sinkhole. Neither are great for thrill rides.

 

[ExBellhop]

Something I remember from going through Traditions back in 99 (when it was still 3 days long) was Disney's philosophy towards this kind of discussion. And really, a lot of people have hit on it. It's the concept that Disney doesn't have any rides. They don't do rides. Want rides? Go to Six Flags. Disney does attractions. The immersive, storytelling experience kind. Have they deviated from that a bit over the last 40'ish years? Sure (looking at you Primeval Whirl). But they've also turned out some attractions that strike that Disney balance between story and thrill - Everest, Tower, maybe even Mission:Space.

Anyway, just some thoughts. Nothing wrong with dreaming though. Walt probably would have thought you were doing just fine.

 

[JimmyV]

I voted yes, but in all honesty none of the options actually suit my answer. I would be in favor of something more thrilling than what already exists, but if by hypercoaster one is intending to replicate something from Cedar Point or Kraken, I think that would be going too far. People who are against the idea seem to be concerned about theming. The Imagineers would take care of that I am sure. However, they do have their limits. I think that a more thrilling coaster can be themed to the Disney standards, but I doubt that a hypercoaster would meet that criteria. So while I would be in favor of something more than what exists, a record-setting top 10 coaster is not in the cards.

 

[Jfsag123]

I voted yes, but in all honesty none of the options actually suit my answer. I would be in favor of something more thrilling than what already exists, but if by hypercoaster one is intending to replicate something from Cedar Point or Kraken, I think that would be going too far. People who are against the idea seem to be concerned about theming. The Imagineers would take care of that I am sure. However, they do have their limits. I think that a more thrilling coaster can be themed to the Disney standards, but I doubt that a hypercoaster would meet that criteria. So while I would be in favor of something more than what exists, a record-setting top 10 coaster is not in the cards.

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I actually voted no, but for the same reasoning outlined above, as the poll specifies a megacoaster. I wouldn't mind if Disney put in a few more attractions at or above the thrill level of RnRc, but not all the way up to hypercoaster. I enjoy them, but they are eyesores and I don't want one messing up sight lines.

 

[EMode]

This is exactly what I am thinking. Why do people want to change the look and feel of Disney so bad all the sudden?

Building a Mega Coaster in WDW is like putting a Topless bar in Downtown Disney, next door to the Lego store. Somethings just don't belong.

Or... Just because you CAN build it doesn't mean you should.

I can't speak for everyone and I can't say I want to change the look and feel so bad either, but for our family WDW has become kind of boring. I don't thin k they need some crazy hypercoaster but something a little more exciting than 7DMT would be nice. WDW will always be my favorite Orlando destination but unfortunately there is nothing there that keeps my growing kids feeling the same. So yeah, I would love if they added some more thrill rides for my own selfish reasons, we are skipping WDW for awhile going to Universal. I would love to not feel we had to do that but without some real new exciting thrill rides its justhow it is. Do I expect them too for me, of course not but I can still discuss my opinions about it

 

[TooExcitedCantSleep]

Thank you everyone for voting and for all of your comments!!!!! OK- the people have spoken and the final result is an overwhelming no to megacoasters!! And- an overwhelming yes to more thrill rides and moderate thrill coasters that can be well themed like Expedition Everest!!

I love big coasters, but I agree that they don't fit with Disney themeing.
I would like to see some more thrilling rides, but that doesn't have to mean a megacoaster.
Revenge of the Mummy at Universal is a great example that shows you can build a really thrilling ride without building a big towering coaster.

The Mummy Coaster is very nice but I don't care for all of those lockers......I hope Disney never has to resort to using them!! I can see something like this themed to Star Wars or even Monsters Inc. though-----with no lockers!!

I voted no. If they built it, I would ride it---I'm a coaster junky. But, they won't build it because it does not make business sense.

Disney's current guest demographic, by and large, is not attracted by super intense attractions, as evidence by the popularity (or lack thereof) of the existing attractions at the upper end of the "thrill range" vs. things more squarely in their market. People who are more inclined to visit thrill-oriented parks might be attracted to WDW with a better lineup, but Disney would have to spend A LOT of marketing dollars changing the perception that they don't do thrills AND those marketing dollars will end up confusing their core message that they are a whole-family-oriented destination.

It would make much more sense to invest the money in an attraction more closely aligned with their core business---and we've seen that's true by the insane popularity of 7DMT, Radiator Racers, etc.

Professor- these are all excellent points.......and pretty much sums up this argument!!

I voted Other. While I am all in favor of the addition of more thrill rides to Disney parks, assuming they are well-themed like most every other attraction, I don't think a hypercoaster would fit the landscape of the parks. That said, were they to build one, I would absolutely ride it.

I think I tend to agree with this.....and that appears to be the consensus here!! People want Disney themed thrilled rides and thrilling coasters that can be themed well are more than welcome but no bare boned hypercoasters!!

I think I voted no mostly due to coaster discussion fatigue. WDW just isn't really a coaster park and continually agitating for a park to become what it isn't when it's very successful makes little sense to me.

I didn't get all the discussion either.....in every single thread folks were saying "I'm going to Universal" over and over and over again!!!! It's nice enough but I just couldn't figure out what it was that is so super duper special about it. Universal is backing away from megacoasters too and focusing on highly themed rides for the family like Disney has always done!!

I voted "other". For me, I'd hate another coaster. Just not a coaster fan.

However, if Disney did decide to build another coaster it needs to be a coaster with a story. A coaster alone is not what Disney is all about. Every attraction has to tell a story.

I completely agree.....this is what sets Disney apart from all the amusement parks!!!!!

You better do it by Aug 16th then! Because that's the last day Colossus will run

We are making a special trip at the end of July to get in one last ride before they dismantle it

Figures!!!!! I will never get to ride then!! But- thanks for filling us in!!

I guess this is the thing I get most passionate about and offended by. I know it's not as if dis polls are what Disney execs use to make decisions, but it still really irks me how against this at least half of you are. If it can be done in a way that doesn't take away from the theming of a park, why would you not want us coaster enthusiasts to have this?

Oh wareagle57 calm down!! I voted yes.....just so the coaster enthusiasts could have something.....as long as they put it in way in the back somewhere or way off to the side out of sight----I don't think I would mind and I would ride it. But- I still think megacoasters are ugly and that having one at Disney would take away some of that special Disney magic from the parks!!

I hadn't heard that Colossus will be closing. But it doesn't really surprise me. I got my final ride, perhaps the 50th, last year. It really looked crappy.

Unfortunately, TooExcited, Colossus has been toned down from it's Walley World days. They retracked it somewhat, taking out one or two of its double dips and making it less intense. But it's still a decent ride.

As for Disney, I changed my mind as well. I was all for ONE mega-coaster, not half a dozen or more. But now I agree with others that one might be too many for a Disney park. That's why I mentioned Cheetah Hunt as an excellent compromise. IMO more thrilling than anything on Disney's roster, but able to be themed and, if situated correctly, not be a visual distraction.

Now if Disney ever opens a 5th gate, oh yeah, give it 2 or 3 kick butt coasters with a villian theme.

Jim

Woah!! Why would they make the ride less intense???? It must be because there are not that many people who want to ride thrilling coasters!!!! There is no way I would be looking to ride that after learning they removed one of the dips!! I'm not against a megacoaster but I don't feel that Disney needs to build one. I completely agree that Cheetah Hunt is an excellent compromise....it's not a megacoaster but still fun!! Disney does not have any villain rides for a reason....they're creepy and they don't fit. There is no point in wasting energy dreaming about things that will never happen. OK- somebody mentioned a Scar and hyena theme for the Cheetah coaster at AK and I did like that!!!! I can see a thrill ride dedicated to Darth Vader too but like I said.....Disney doesn't theme any of their rides to Villains for a reason!!

 

[FLchick415]

Villains not a good fit?? I respectfully disagree. Look at the Villains event from last year. It was very popular. So popular that they're bringing it back again this year. People love the villains.

 

[JennyMP03]

I took a 20-year-old a couple of weeks ago, and while she had fun overall, she often asked me to lead her to rides that were more in line with Rock n' Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror. In fact, we went to DHS almost every day of our trip because she wanted to ride both again and again. (I love them too, thankfully!)

When we did story-based attractions, she would say "oh that's neat" about the animatronics and such, but at the end, she said, "It's kind of boring." I asked her which was her favorite of the slow dark rides, and she said Pirates of the Caribbean. Maybe because there's a small drop and Johnny Depp.

I voted yes because I'd personally love a new coaster, and the wilder the better for me-- and I imagine several teens/young adults would enjoy another thrill ride too. It certainly seems the thrill rides have the longest waits at many of the parks. As long as it's Disney-themed, I'm not sure how it'd detract from the park more than any other attraction would. I'd be on board with more thrill rides at the level of RnR, too.

 

[niffer5150]

i adore a good thrill ride. i really do but no, this would be a terrible idea. the thrill factor draws in a entirely different crowd than disney's usual family fun seekers and i don't see how any part of that could be good.

source: i live next to magic mountain and got season passes for my daughter and i. it's pretty awful. some of the adrenaline junkie crowd can be seriously rough.

 

[andrewilley]

Disney does immersive storytelling attractions (not "rides" as such) so an ugly pile of metal scaffolding designed solely to churn people's stomachs around would be the complete antithesis of what the Disney concept stands for.

You can take that as a "no" I guess.

Andre