robinb
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I don't think so because it makes them feel like they've done something when they have really done nothing at all.I guess that's better than nothing.
I don't think so because it makes them feel like they've done something when they have really done nothing at all.I guess that's better than nothing.
Yes and after those thousands of people died via aircraft, EVERYTHING changed about how aircraft are operated. There was a tragedy and an appropriate response.
Likewise, there are all sorts of vehicle barricades around the White House that weren't there a dozen years ago.
So evidently *sometimes* when people are killed, we have the political will to do what we can to mitigate and minimize those deaths.
Unless those deaths are caused by guns. In which case "what can you do? Bad people are gonna find a way to kill."
Meanwhile, I had my freaking granola bars individually inspected at MCO just to get on an airplane.
Hmm I disagree with that. There's no doubt there is a discussion on guns that should occur but if we look at fatalities other methods can be used to have just as much and at time with more fatalities than guns. It doesn't make a discussion on guns no less valid but to dismiss other methods while saying guns kill with far more efficiency than cars (knives..yeah you have to be close to do that and that will likely lessen the number of fatalities though people have gone into crowds with hatchets for example)..at least to me they are different things we're talking about.The nut job with a car killed 8. The nut job with a gun yesterday killed 26, the nut job with a gun a few weeks ago killed 59, the nut job in Orlando killed 47.
Guns kill with far more efficiency than cars, or knives. Let's not pretend that they are equivalent.
TSA does not work? Since when.And there is so much data studies and test (TSA keeps failing test miserably) to show that the increased screening we have done doesn't work, the threats that have been stopped are credited to intelligence gathering not screening procedures.
He purchased his rifle at an Academy Sports store. Did they not run the check?
Do military court martials not show up like a civilian conviction?
I get lying on the form, but what is the point of running a check if they aren't catching the lie
http://bfy.tw/EsaFTSA does not work? Since when.
After McVay we spent billions reinforcing government buildings all over the world so trucks could drive close. But for the shooting of the month, somehow, SOME can not think of a single thing we can change, not nothing.
The problem with laws stating private party transfers need to have a back ground check done is that there is literally no way to enforce this, no one knows about all the purposefully or unknowingly illegal transfers in states like CA (where I recently moved away from)
If you are in a state like TX, and you want to run the buyer through NICS you'll have to have an FFL (gun shop) do it..just like the legal way in say CA.
As long as people keep getting caught up in the tool used and suffer from an irrational fear of an inanimate object we'll never have a serious conversation about murder.
fake news.
If he purchased from a dealer then it shouldn't matter what box he checked, they would have ran a background check.
If it was a private purchase or gun show I don't think they run checks, but then there probably wouldn't have been an application.
This is definitely one area where certain states could change things.
But I believe some on here are disputing that solutions need to be found, after all, ....
We all know the NRA are going to fight tooth and nail... perhaps it would be easier to take a baby step and simply adjust a given law or two? As a token of good faith?
To be fair, I said "states" can change that. My state has.
Always good to see a state stand up to the big boys... hopefully others will follow suit.
No, but it is somewhat misleading. The state level laws only refer to private (non-dealer) sales done at gun shows. Federal law still demands that firearms dealers must perform background checks regardless of whether the sale is done in their store, or remotely at a gun show. The Texas shooter reportedly purchased the firearm at a dealer, so all Federal background check laws would have applied to the sale.In Texas? I didn't think they needed to run background checks for gun shows?
Is this outdated?
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/s...irearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html
Exactly! Not too many things at all that can kill that many ppl in minutes.I doubt one person can kill 25 people with rocks in a few minutes.