Should a fence be built along the Mexican border?

[Bob Slydell]

Yes! I'm tired of mexicans I don't understand why they come here to get better jobs but then can't get a job so most of them spend their days sitting outside of wal-mart hoping someone will pick them up for handy work.

Wow -- generalize much?

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Wow -- generalize much?

You said it nicer than I would have. That's all I have to say about that.

 

[azgal81]

I thought we were talking about mexicans that's why I generalized with them only. I guess I'm just jaded living in Arizona we are getting overrun with them here. I'm just going by what I see. It might be different where others live.

 

[FreshTressa]

Yes! I'm tired of mexicans I don't understand why they come here to get better jobs but then can't get a job so most of them spend their days sitting outside of wal-mart hoping someone will pick them up for handy work.

I don't think the wall would work though I think they would still manage to get here.

That makes me want to vomit.

 

[princesspumpkin]

Yes! I'm tired of mexicans I don't understand why they come here to get better jobs but then can't get a job so most of them spend their days sitting outside of wal-mart hoping someone will pick them up for handy work.

I don't think the wall would work though I think they would still manage to get here.

I was watching a Latino comedian on Comedy Central who talked about this and the wall subject. He said that America wants to send us (meaning he and other Mexicans) back across the boarder and then build a fence to keep them out. He ended it by saying "If they kick us all out, who's gonna build the fence?" No flames, he said it - not me! I just thought that it was an interesting point because I do hear people complain a lot about illegal immigrants, but I also see so many Americans utilizing them in their businesses (I assume because they can pay them less).

 

[Tantor]

And like someone else said, if you are going to fence the Mexico/USA border are you going to fence the Canada/USA border?

Good grief, I hope not.

 

[4greatboys]

I answered yes as well. But its a small part of the solution.

 

[LisaNJ25]

yes, but only if its an electric one.

 

[Charade]

Absolutely NOT. Dumbest idea since the Berlin Wall. I also LOVE how calling it a "fence" makes it seem less like the Berlin Wall...same difference. Totally outrageous cost-wise and a complete afront to the people of Mexico and Canada.

Bush is an idiot...I can't wait until the next elecion and we can get rid this clown.

I suppose next we'll be proposing to build sniper roosts every 1/4 mile and just shoot anyone who comes too close to the border like over at GitMo.

Then what do you suggest?

 

[Charade]

Wow -- generalize much?

So adding "some" would have been better? I think we all know what she meant.

 

[CheshireVal]

So adding "some" would have been better? I think we all know what she meant.

It's very un-PC to actually say it out loud, though.

I don't want to generalize about a whole group of people, either. There are mexicans here legally, and that's terrific. I have no problem at all with that. But I think if you live in one of the states with a *huge* population of mexicans/hispanics (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Georgia...) , you see it every day and it makes you think.

I can stop at any gas station on my way to work in the morning, and there are at least 15-20 hispanics just kind of hanging out eating breakfast, or piling into a landscape/painting truck. Or you can go to the nearest KMart or Wal-Mart and, as anEnglish speaking person, find yourself to be in the minority (and that is really not an exagerration!) Now, I know exactly how hard it is to come here legally, seeing as how DH is going through the process now. And, to think about it logically and rationally, there is absolutely no way that all of these foreigners (and I don't care who it is-- it could be a bunch of Ukranian guys and I'd think the same thing!) actually were able to make it through the immigration process legally. Absolutely no way.

Which says a lot about our immigration procedures and how hard the US has made it for anyone to come here legally. Maybe that process should be changed. But I *do* think it should be addressed, and I'm glad it's come out in the open in recent weeks. At least people are acknowledging it and talking about it. Maybe something good can come out of all this-- something that can maybe one day solve the problem to everyone's satisfaction.

 

[VickiVM]

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I am just amazed how we have reduced this domestic issue of immigration to "those Mexicans", "sick and tired of them", "hanging out at the gas station/Walmart/wherever" as though you're talking about a nasty insect problem in your lawn that needs extermination.

These are REAL people struggling to make a better life for themselves and their families. Yes, some do cause trouble - AS DO MANY AMERICANS. I am ashamed to hear what I considered my DIS friend feel so much hatred and animosity for a group of people.

The things I am reading is extremely hurtful as I am Hispanic. Many of the comments I read sound as though you all loathe Mexicans in general. Because even the legal immigrants hang out at the gas station/Walmart/wherever waiting at the designated pick up area for their labor bosses to pick them up for work.

I live in San Antonio Texas and absolutely love it here. There is a huge hispanic (majority) population here and we all live peacefully successfully together. Everytime our San Antonio Spurs win a championship, thousands and thousands of fans (mostly Hispanic) take to the streets downtown and celebrate without incident! In other cities, rioting of some sort sometimes erupt after championship games.

So when you all refer to cities having problems because of being overun with Mexicans - YOU'RE GENERALIZING and that does nothing to solve this complex issue. Because South Texas wouldn't be as awesome as it is without the immigration of Mexicans. PERIOD.

 

[lyeag]

PC or not, I think there are many people who are tired of watching this large movement on tv try to force the government to recognize people who have no legal status in our country.

I don't have a problem with people wanting to come here legally. I do have a problem with people who come here and think that we must adapt to them instead of them adapting to their new home. They choose to come here for whatever reason and they should abide by the laws, learn the language and be grateful to their new home for giving them the opportunity for a better life, not wave the flag and shout the praises of the country they left.

 

[FreshTressa]

Why do the santa ana schools have a 99% latin population and a 94% free/reduced lunch population?

 

[lyeag]

Why do the santa ana schools have a 99% latin population and a 94% free/reduced lunch population?

Please don't get me started on the subject of schools. How many good teachers are being passed over in border states because they don't speak Spanish?

 

[Planogirl]

So adding "some" would have been better? I think we all know what she meant.

Of course we do. But if literally all Mexicans hang outside of Wal-Mart every day then no one would be able to approach the store.

I live in a state with a large Hispanic population and the vast majority are hard-working citizens who are concerned about this problem themselves. Many Hispanic families can trace their lineage to Texas long before any Americans showed up to start the gradual act of taking over. Saying that "Mexicans" come here from Mexico just to hang outside of the Wal-Mart is just wrong IMO.

 

[FreshTressa]

And I agree, and find it a very offensive statement.

I love and appreciate my Mexican friends. They don't want to be lumped in with those guys any more than I want to be lumped in with the native american drunks that decorate pioneer square.

 

[FreshTressa]

And know what, those mexicans outside walmart are at least TRYING to work for a living.

Which is more than I can say for many people that are WHITE.

 

[Charade]

And know what, those mexicans outside walmart are at least TRYING to work for a living.

How many of them do you think are undocumented? There's a video floating around the internet where a guy went to a place where day workers (Hispanics) where waiting for jobs. He offered them a job and they loaded into his truck (in the back of a pickup). Instead of taking them to a job site, he drove them to the police station (or the immigration office, I forget). They scattered like you wouldn't believe. They KNOW they're doing something ILLEGAL. Doesn't matter to me one bit how hard they're trying to make a living. They don't belong here unless they come via legal means. Why is it so hard to understand?

Which is more than I can say for many people that are WHITE.

That's different problem. I hate when people bring up comparisons like this. It's really irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[VickiVM]

Please don't get me started on the subject of schools. How many good teachers are being passed over in border states because they don't speak Spanish?

I don't know - How many?? In San Antonio, fluency in Spanish is not a requirement for teaching. I have never heard of any teacher being discriminated against for not knowing Spanish.

And for the other question about the free lunch program - There are areas in the east of white and or black communities where a large percentage of the children participate in the free or reduced price lunch programs. Mostly due to depressed economies.