Shooting Range Birthday Party?

[cornflake]

This is all I can find about bows (I only looked out of idle curiosity, nothing to do with your family friend). There doesn't appear to be a NYC regulation, but the state says (save the last about the crossbow, these are about hunting with them here, not owning.) -

A hunter education course is required for persons who cannot show proof that they have ever possessed a hunting license. The general course is a minimum 10 hours in length....

Hunters wishing to bowhunt for deer and bear must take an additional 8 hour minimum bowhunter education course...

Crossbows are illegal. Except for Modified Crossbow Permit. This permit allows qualified people to hunt big or small game with a crossbow that has been specifically modified with a device that only allows it to be discharged (fired) by means of a breath tube. This permit does not allow the use of an unmodified crossbow

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

Really? No other party ideas out there?

 

[cornflake]

That's pretty much the same as airline travel. Locked cases (checked, obviously), ammo in separate case from firearm.

That's if you hold a permit and license for the stuff here. If you (not you you, the general you) don't and are like, visiting, don't even bring it in no matter how it's carried or you'll visit the inside of Rikers.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

This is all I can find about bows (I only looked out of idle curiosity, nothing to do with your family friend). There doesn't appear to be a NYC regulation, but the state says (save the last about the crossbow, these are about hunting with them here, not owning.) -

Crossbows are legal here during rifle season and alternative methods season, but not archery season. Also allowed during alternative method season are bows, handguns, muzzleloaders, and something called an Altai (it's a way of launching a spear LOL).

 

[xipotec]

I cant control i bunch of kids that age at Chuck E Cheese, why would i want them at a Gun range!???

Its not a party place to me. It a training facility to learn the do's and don't of firearms, and to practice your skills.

I fine with training children as young as 15 , younger and I do not think they fully grasp the implications of using a firearm improperly. Heck , i know alot of adults who don't get it. Just look on utube.

Bad idea in general, take them to a bar or strip club instead......

 

[tiffjoy]

I cant control i bunch of kids that age at Chuck E Cheese, why would i want them at a Gun range!???

Its not a party place to me. It a training facility to learn the do's and don't of firearms, and to practice your skills.

I fine with training children as young as 15 , younger and I do not think they fully grasp the implications of using a firearm improperly. Heck , i know alot of adults who don't get it. Just look on utube.

Bad idea in general, take them to a bar or strip club instead......

Yes, because strip clubs are the same. Slight exaggeration.

I have take no issue with people saying they wouldn't allow their kids to attend. But we are not talking about a free for all with guns. The website (I posted it earlier) detailed how they conduct the parties. They require one adult for every two kids. Only one kid shoots at a time. The kids are required to recite four safety rules from memory to participate. They are supervised the entire time they are shooting. They are not running around with guns.

Many kids are taught how to handle guns safely and with supervision. I was one of those kids. This does not equate to taking them to a strip club or a bar.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

That's if you hold a permit and license for the stuff here. If you (not you you, the general you) don't and are like, visiting, don't even bring it in no matter how it's carried or you'll visit the inside of Rikers.

Yeah your part of he country is notorious for that. Unfortunately, a lot of international flights connect up there. There was a story a while back about a guy who got to Newark (IIRC) and his outbound flight got cancelled. The airline made him take possession of his bags, and then he was arrested at the hotel for a lack of local transportation permits

 

[LSmith]

Yes, because strip clubs are the same. Slight exaggeration.

I have take no issue with people saying they wouldn't allow their kids to attend. But we are not talking about a free for all with guns. The website (I posted it earlier) detailed how they conduct the parties.

Many kids are taught how to handle guns safely and with supervision. I was one of those kids. This does not equate to taking them to a strip club or a bar.

As much as I hate to say this - strip club for kids party wins hands down over kids gun range birthday party.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

As much as I hate to say this - strip club for kids party wins hands down over kids gun range birthday party.

 

[cornflake]

Yeah your part of he country is notorious for that. Unfortunately, a lot of international flights connect up there. There was a story a while back about a guy who got to Newark (IIRC) and his outbound flight got cancelled. The airline made him take possession of his bags, and then he was arrested at the hotel for a lack of local transportation permits

I recall a story but it may not be the same one - one I remember the ding dong just sortof thought he could hang around Manhattan with a handgun. He was some minor politicianish guy and it was quite the amusement-getter here because yeah, we are.

As much as I hate to say this - strip club for kids party wins hands down over kids gun range birthday party.

Amen. Given that choice, I'm making up some 'guess the ccs' party game.

 

[tiffjoy]

As much as I hate to say this - strip club for kids party wins hands down over kids gun range birthday party.

And how is that???

I would never, ever in a million years take my children to a strip club. EVER. I believe it's actually illegal in many states.

A supervised safety lesson in handling guns where the ratio of adults to children is 2:1 is not dangerous. Again, I will reiterate that across the country, many kids are taught how to handle guns by she 8. If its not common in your area, ok. It doesn't mean it's preferable to take your kids to a strip club over a safety lesson.


This thread has gotten ridiculous. I don't disagree at all with people saying they would not do this. But to say a strip club is preferable?? Really??

 

[LSmith]

I recall a story but it may not be the same one - one I remember the ding dong just sortof thought he could hang around Manhattan with a handgun. He was some minor politicianish guy and it was quite the amusement-getter here because yeah, we are.



Amen. Given that choice, I'm making up some 'guess the ccs' party game.

Gone to google "guess the ccs" party...

 

[LSmith]

And how is that???

I would never, ever in a million years take my children to a strip club. EVER. I believe it's actually illegal in many states.

A supervised safety lesson in handling guns where the ratio of adults to children is 2:1 is not dangerous. Again, I will reiterate that across the country, many kids are taught how to handle guns by she 8. If its not common in your area, ok. It doesn't mean it's preferable to take your kids to a strip club over a safety lesson.


This thread has gotten ridiculous. I don't disagree at all with people saying they would not do this. But to say a strip club is preferable?? Really??

Yes. REALLY. But then, taking kids to a gun range birthday party is illegal here.

 

[tiffjoy]

Yes. REALLY. But then, taking kids to a gun range birthday party is illegal here.

Okey dokey.

I'm pretty puzzled by your thinking. I learned to shoot at 6 and I'm ok. And I've still never been to a strip club. But whatevs.

 

[LSmith]

Okey dokey.

I'm pretty puzzled by your thinking. I learned to shoot at 6 and I'm ok. And I've still never been to a strip club. But whatevs.

And I'm puzzled by your thinking.

 

[xipotec]

Yes, because strip clubs are the same. Slight exaggeration.

I have take no issue with people saying they wouldn't allow their kids to attend. But we are not talking about a free for all with guns. The website (I posted it earlier) detailed how they conduct the parties. They require one adult for every two kids. Only one kid shoots at a time. The kids are required to recite four safety rules from memory to participate. They are supervised the entire time they are shooting. They are not running around with guns.

Many kids are taught how to handle guns safely and with supervision. I was one of those kids. This does not equate to taking them to a strip club or a bar.

If you handle a stripper wrong it could be much more dangerous than a gun!!!

 

[LSmith]

If you handle a stripper wrong it could be much more dangerous than a gun!!!

Dang right. Dem there nekkid women will burn your eyes blind!

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

I haven't read this whole thread, but my child would not be participating in this kind of party. I can think of several reasons.

1) As a teacher, I can tell you that different parents have widely different standards of what constitutes appropriate supervision. Even if I went along, and closely supervised my kid, that doesn't mean that others are doing the same. I would not trust a child I don't know, whether or not they can recite some safety rules, supervised by an adult I don't know who also may not know the child in question, to be using a gun around my child.

2) My family has it's values about gun safety, other individuals may have different values. For that reason, I want to be the one to select when, and where, and what, and from whom my child learns about gun safety. I'd also probably want to be there, unless the instructor was someone I knew very well. That doesn't mean that I think that 8 is too young, just that I'm not going to let a party host and someone looking to make a profit choose who and how and what and when my kid learns about guns. I also think that isn't to young to learn about sex and birth control, but I wouldn't send my 8 year old to a party where they were putting condoms on bananas.

3) I think the association between guns and partying is weird. I want my kid to think that shooting is a somber, serious thing. But then I live in a city that has, in the past, been ravaged by gun violence. I don't want my kid making a connection between guns and things like cake, and balloons.

That isn't to say that I wouldn't let my kid go on an outing to a shooting range. If there was an outing where adults I knew and trusted, who shared my values and whose management skills I had seen and could vouch for, took a group of kids that they and I knew and could vouch for, on an "educational" trip (e.g. not billed as a party) to a shooting range. Yes, I think that could be great. I'm thinking of a church youth group or a boy scout troop or some other group that stays stable over time. I can also think of specific parents I'd trust if they said "I'm taking my son, can I bring yours too?", but that's very different from a birthday party.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

I recall a story but it may not be the same one - one I remember the ding dong just sortof thought he could hang around Manhattan with a handgun. He was some minor politicianish guy and it was quite the amusement-getter here because yeah, we are.

Definitely not the same one - IIRC, this guy was en route to Africa & had a rifle (or two). I hear similar stories as yours though lots of places. Someone just out to draw attention to themselves or make a point.

 

[pyrxtc]

my boys would love it.