Shocked at kid's behaviour...

Another mean mommy here.

I've actually canceled trick or treating and a birthday party over inappropriate behavior. You can bet that if one of my kids acts up at WDW in June, we'll be going back to the room. My kids are 4 and 8 and they know what is expected of them. They get to be kids and I expect them to act goofy now and then, but out of control? No way, no how!

I understand that this is not just my vacation but the vacation of those around me. My kids have been taught to respect themselves and others.

Are my kids perfect? Nope. Do they mess up? Yep. Am I a perfect parent? By no means. But, I know that we try the best we can with what we have.

I don't know what I would have done in the above noted situations. I don't feel like it's appropriate to say something to that parent or those kids, except if my family is being injured in some way. I will be sure to use it as a teachable moment with my own kids, telling them that if I see them starting something like that, we'll be gone.
 
I don't have children, so I'm probably the last person you want putting her 2 cents worth in here BUT...

I'm an elementary school principal who always has to travel during the busiest times. I also have a very high tolerance for "kids being kids" behavior. The excitement, the exuberance, and the joy don't bother me at all. What I find intolerable are children running around at all hours without adult supervision, making nasty comments, and doing things that are malicious or destructive. The vast majority of children I've encountered on my 9 holiday (mostly Spring Break) cruises and at WDW have been great. Unfortunately, the ones I remember the most are the ones whose parents decided they were on vacation from being a parent.:headache:

I really don't go on vacation to get knocked over, or told to perform a sex act on myself:mad: (for asking a teen to release the elevator door). All I want to do is get away from the daily routine and experience the vacation I've paid for. To the parents who make sure their children respect EVERYONE'S right to enjoy themselves, kudos! To those parents who let their children run wild and unsupervised around a resort, an amusement park, or a ship, shame on you!:sad2:
 

Kids will be kids, they will test boundaries, act on impulse. However, it is the parents' job to teach kids what is acceptable public behavior, what will and will not be tolerated.

Just today I was in a small local shoe store and two little kids were running around chasing each other through the store; they knocked into me twice and others as well. The mom kept saying "Stop that! Stop running around, come back here."

But in the ten minutes I was in the store, she never actually DID anything to make them stop. The kids were in total control of the situation.
 
Guess I better make my kid a therapy appointment. I hauled her butt out of MK due to her behavior. :lmao:

She still remembers the day, and has not repeated the behavior. :thumbsup2

THIS. If you show your kids you're serious, they will become serious. What passes as acceptable behavior is shocking these days- if I behaved the way some children behave I would have gotten my butt beat where I stood. It was usually the first, last, and only time I ever exhibited that behavior. My DM made it very clear that I was not around to be her friend. She had lots of her own friends and I was to make my own growing up. After I had all my own stuff, THEN we could be friends.

Your kids will push you as far as you allow yourself to be pushed. And just because you're on vacation doesn't mean you stop being a parent. Because if you don't stop your kid from running around the toppings bar at Cosmic Ray's, he might just run into my foot and fall...and I'm not gonna feel bad for him either :rotfl:
 
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Plans have to change then. I have had to change plans when one of my kids was overheated and was breathing smoke from a wild fire in GA and had his asthma flare up. ADRs went out the window and so did any other plans until he was ok.

And if my child was of napping age, he went down for a nap, it did not matter where we were. I built our touring around their nap schedule. We arent use to the heat of FL in the summer either, so when we went in June, we went back to the hotel at nap time, everyone chilled out, little guy napped, then we went out later. I even had to do this for my mom as she could not handle the touring of that time.

I said I would be extremely sympathetic if she was leaving but she wanted her kid to get in a hot stroller in the FL heat to take a nap. I wouldnt want to nap in there either. If she was on the bus going back to the hotel and he was screaming bc he was overtired and overheated I would have the utmost understanding and sympathy.

Kids dont allow everything to go as scheduled, sometimes you have to
adapt. Whether is is from being overtired, sick or just being in a bratty mood, as a parent I need to adjust and take care of the kid. And yes that may mean that the whole family has to take a break bc one if acting up.

This always makes me giggle a bit. I was the first of my friends to have kids and we refused to raise them on a "schedule". I took a good deal of grief from people because I didn't have set nap times and such. I was endlessly told I was going to have problems with them. REALLY??

Both of my kids would nap whenever and wherever....carseat, sling, stroller, somone's couch....it just didn't matter. They did not require total darkness and quiet to sleep. They were also laid-back, go with the flow from birth.

I have seen more people have issues with their "scheduled" kids because the world ends any time you dare violate the "schedule". Obviously, you need to read your kids and deal with them if they react badly to what's going on. Honestly, it was a very rare occasion for my kids to melt down. I guess I was just very lucky to have go with the flow kids.
 
And the kid climbing the light pole, if he had fallen and gotten hurt his mother would have called a lawyer.
 
None of this is acting like kids...it is acting like animals. Kids make mistakes all the time and yes as parents we think what were you thinking but they problem lies with the parent. If I see a kid doing something they shouldnt, I dont blame the child, I blame the parent for not reacting.

I have two kids and no, they do not act like the above and if they did there would be heck to pay. And yes they still manage to have fun without being disruptive and destructive.





Now see I would be judgemental bc you knew he was not use to the heat yet you did nothing to prepare, did you take breaks so he could nap in a cool place. Trying to get a 2 year old into a hot stroller to nap, is a recipe for diaster. I have been there done that with that age and heat. We always planned mid day naps back at the hotel to avoid this. Plus I really dont want to hear your kid screaming bc you did not plan well. Meltdowns happen (they happen with adults as well) but for me it is how the parent reacts..if you really were doing nothing but having him scream then yes that was wrong. If you were pushing him through the park screaming, or carrying him screaming to somewhere cooler, than I would have looked and felt badly that your poor little guy was so hot. I would have had sympathy.

He wouldn't go in the stroller to nap, that was the problem! The strop was purely about going in the stroller nothing else, he was actually ok with the heat. We spent loads of time in cooler places to keep him out of the sun and the only problem we had with the whole trip was trying to get him in the stroller so he would nap. After a couple of days we found the way to do this was to get on a bus early afternoon where he would instantly fall asleep then we could put him in his stroller!

This is exactly what I mean about people being judgemental!!!!

mo x
 
Oh and the stroller had a fan and a HUGE shade thing that covered most of his body (not one of those stupid umbrella things). The strop was purely because he wanted to walk (despite the fact he was tired) not because it was a hot stroller!
 
This always makes me giggle a bit. I was the first of my friends to have kids and we refused to raise them on a "schedule". I took a good deal of grief from people because I didn't have set nap times and such. I was endlessly told I was going to have problems with them. REALLY??

Both of my kids would nap whenever and wherever....carseat, sling, stroller, somone's couch....it just didn't matter. They did not require total darkness and quiet to sleep. They were also laid-back, go with the flow from birth.

I have seen more people have issues with their "scheduled" kids because the world ends any time you dare violate the "schedule". Obviously, you need to read your kids and deal with them if they react badly to what's going on. Honestly, it was a very rare occasion for my kids to melt down. I guess I was just very lucky to have go with the flow kids.



I had one go with the flow kid(first) and one that did better on a schedule(second). I adapted the whole family based on each kid's needs. My kids rarely melted down either, because I was prepared to adjust what was going on.

But my child's meltdown would not interfere with others, we dealt with it immediately and did what we could to avoid them.

And gee I am called judgemental but the idea that I suggested about leaving early afternoon to get on a cool bus where the child fell asleep is what actually worked.:rolleyes:
 
And gee I am called judgemental but the idea that I suggested about leaving early afternoon to get on a cool bus where the child fell asleep is what actually worked.:rolleyes:

Erm no you were called judgemental because you stated that you would judge me because I had failed to prepare which was totally the opposite of what I had actually done!!!
 
This always makes me giggle a bit. I was the first of my friends to have kids and we refused to raise them on a "schedule". I took a good deal of grief from people because I didn't have set nap times and such. I was endlessly told I was going to have problems with them. REALLY??

Both of my kids would nap whenever and wherever....carseat, sling, stroller, somone's couch....it just didn't matter. They did not require total darkness and quiet to sleep. They were also laid-back, go with the flow from birth.

I have seen more people have issues with their "scheduled" kids because the world ends any time you dare violate the "schedule". Obviously, you need to read your kids and deal with them if they react badly to what's going on. Honestly, it was a very rare occasion for my kids to melt down. I guess I was just very lucky to have go with the flow kids.

Totally agree with this - my son is really flexible, I have always got on with whatever we were doing and not planned my life round naps etc and as a result (other than the refusing to get in the stroller thing - lol) he will sleep wherever, whenever he needs to but can do later nights etc with no worry, though still goes down to bed fine. We actually had a 3 am finish at Magic Kingdom last year which we all loved! I have friends and family who planned their whole lives round their children's naps and cannot for a second step out of that routine years later, have to leave weddings early etc whilst my son has joined in or slept happily in his stroller despite the noise around us letting us enjoy the whole night.

I think it does depend a bit on the child right enough but I like flexibility!

mo x
 
I certainly hope you're just trolling and you don't actually think this is how decently raised children behave.

While it can be overwhelming at WDW, there is no excuse for bad behaviors other than their parents allow it. If you find nothing wrong with this type of behavior than I can only guess that your children act the same way.

Not necessarily, but I am sure they will commit some if not all of this "shocking behavior" once in their lifetimes. However, I do have one child who is just a perfect little angel like yours. She is about to turn 7 and has never lied or cheated, never hit someone or judged someone, never run up or down the hallway in the middle of the night, climbed a lamp post or splashed water out of the pool. You see, she has severe cerebral palsy and she can't walk, talk or see and I would give anything to have her partake in this barbarism if only just once. In other words, get over it because it could be a whole lot worse than some kid being a kid and disturbing your day.
 
Erm no you were called judgemental because you stated that you would judge me because I had failed to prepare which was totally the opposite of what I had actually done!!!

Well I would have judged you to and I don't give a patooty why your son is screaming but if he is screaming and disturbing me and you are just strolling around ignoring it then yes I would judge you! You don't push a screaming kid around disturbing others. You do what you have to do to end the screaming and waiting it out is not what you do in a public place.
 
Erm no you were called judgemental because you stated that you would judge me because I had failed to prepare which was totally the opposite of what I had actually done!!!

And no where in your original post did you say anything about being prepared to deal with the heat. Plus I dont care if you have the Lexus of strollers, it will not keep the child comfortable in the FL heat.

Totally agree with this - my son is really flexible, I have always got on with whatever we were doing and not planned my life round naps etc and as a result (other than the refusing to get in the stroller thing - lol) he will sleep wherever, whenever he needs to but can do later nights etc with no worry, though still goes down to bed fine. We actually had a 3 am finish at Magic Kingdom last year which we all loved! I have friends and family who planned their whole lives round their children's naps and cannot for a second step out of that routine years later, have to leave weddings early etc whilst my son has joined in or slept happily in his stroller despite the noise around us letting us enjoy the whole night.

I think it does depend a bit on the child right enough but I like flexibility!

mo x

And you are fortunate to only have one child and it is great that he is normally flexible but if he isnt you need to adapt. Like I said I had one who was and one who wasnt. Plus I like how you judge people who adhere to a schedule, maybe that is what works best for their family or that particular child. Leaving a event eary is not the end of the world, and if it is what is best for everyone involved then so be it. I would not want to ruin someone else's day whether a wedding or WDW by not dealing with immediately or have some forethought to plan ahead for a cranky kid.
 
And gee I am called judgemental but the idea that I suggested about leaving early afternoon to get on a cool bus where the child fell asleep is what actually worked.:rolleyes:

:rolleyes1 Yeah thats why your first post was judgemental. Nothing to do with the way you judged someone without really knowing that much about them.
 
Not necessarily, but I am sure they will commit some if not all of this "shocking behavior" once in their lifetimes. However, I do have one child who is just a perfect little angel like yours. She is about to turn 7 and has never lied or cheated, never hit someone or judged someone, never run up or down the hallway in the middle of the night, climbed a lamp post or splashed water out of the pool. You see, she has severe cerebral palsy and she can't walk, talk or see and I would give anything to have her partake in this barbarism if only just once. In other words, get over it because it could be a whole lot worse than some kid being a kid and disturbing your day.


God you have a really hard time of it. I read in the post about whether people were wearing purple to show support for people bullied for being gay that your brother committed suicide because he was gay and now this. I am sure parents with children with disabilities have many wishes for their children but I can't see a wish for them to be disruptive and badly behaved being top of the list?
 
And no where in your original post did you say anything about being prepared to deal with the heat. Plus I dont care if you have the Lexus of strollers, it will not keep the child comfortable in the FL heat.

I disagree with this one. My children have both never had any problem sleeping in their strollers in Florida. As I said I have things to ease the heat a little and usually try to stay in the shade or inside where there is air con. They wake up happy and refreshed and not cranky. Perhaps because they are easy going and not in a rigid routine they don't generally get cranky. If they are tired they nap. All children cry now and again. How you deal with that various from child to child. If I see a child crying is WDW or anywhere else for that matter I don't see it as disturbing my day. I am having too much fun being with my family enjoying our time there.
 

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