Seven Dwarfs Mine Train -Inside Portion

[rastuso]

From Wiki:

Although they were officially called "coupons", visitors commonly referred to the admission media as "tickets", as they were often sold in "ticket books". This gave rise to the term "E ticket". Disney has continued to informally call its best attractions "E tickets", even those opened after the coupon system was discontinued, such as Splash Mountain, Indiana Jones Adventure, The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, and Soarin' Over California.

The Mine Train in not in the same class as any of the rides mentioned above. A waterfall is now what makes an E ride?

And remember, that bridge is supposed to be a 2 lane road!

-Jason

 

[JanaDee]

Yeah, there is no way this ride could be in any way considered an E-ticket attraction. However, for a kiddie coaster it looks OK and I do want to check it out at some point.

Basically it's a low thrill family coaster with a cool theme. Not an E-ticket and not really something worth a long line wait but kids will find it fun.

Agreed on all counts.

 

[damo]

I think if there were multiple indoor sections with themed animatronics and cool special effects, then it could possibly become an e-ticket but not as it stands now.

 

[FLchick415]

Like I said, I think SDMT is a solid C from the looks of it (Could it be upgraded to D once I ride it? Maybe, but doubtful), and that's okay. Disney doesn't need to be ALL E ticket rides. And TSMM? I'd classify that as a D even though people fall all over themselves to ride it. LOL

 

[AmyB2006]

Yeah, there is no way this ride could be in any way considered an E-ticket attraction. However, for a kiddie coaster it looks OK and I do want to check it out at some point.

Basically it's a low thrill family coaster with a cool theme. Not an E-ticket and not really something worth a long line wait but kids will find it fun.

Exactly. The kids will love it. It'll be fun.

 

[surferdave]

It's a Small World was once an E-Ticket ride (back when the term was real), I doubt many people have considered it one in a long time. What amounts to an "E-Ticket" now pretty much depends solely on the demand for the ride. I'm sure the Mine Train will be "E-Ticket" for some amount of time, just like the Belle play-along act is now. Whether either remains that demanding long term remains to be seen.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

It's a Small World was once an E-Ticket ride (back when the term was real), I doubt many people have considered it one in a long time. What amounts to an "E-Ticket" now pretty much depends solely on the demand for the ride. I'm sure the Mine Train will be "E-Ticket" for some amount of time, just like the Belle play-along act is now. Whether either remains that demanding long term remains to be seen.

Good new Point!

AKK

 

[Toad_Passenger]

Okay, I now officially know how my friends feel when I start going off about my passion for beer and why some are better than others (and how some people drink pure swill).

People are "into" certain things, and I can see there are plenty of theme park enthusiasts out there still defining and redefining the E-Ticket experience. I can see both sides of the coin.

For me, the ride looks like fun, and, just like Peter Pan, will allow me to "ride" one of my kids' favorite movies. I'm sure the kids will love it, and that's just fine with me.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Despite the mine portion, long or short, the videos we have now show a amazing bit of theming and engineering. Over the top, head and shoulders over any other attractions any where. This is by far a easy E ticket.

This and Cars land and other attractions show Disney is back on track and we can expect this type of excellence in the future with Avatar, Star Wars, etc.

Can't wait for our trip in May!

AKK

~Tonka! It's always good to have you around! And, of course, I agree with you -- it is an "easy" E ticket. You'll be among the first people to ride this in May! Yay!

"E tickets" don't actually exist anymore, so who is to say what an "E ticket ride is. Am I missing some classification from Disney? Or are E tickets just whatever you think is an E ticket?

~You're absolutely right. I define an E ticket as a very popular ride with long lines.

Arguing that someone is wrong saying RSR is not an E ticket, and then saying the mine train definitely IS, doesn't really make a consistent argument.

The Dwarf coaster is most certainly, unequivocally, NOT an E ticket ride. If great theming makes an E ticket, should ITTBAB be an E ticket? what about the LINE for Indiana Jones at DL? That alone has incredible theming, interactive bits, a movie, and stairs!

The theming on SDMT is lipstick on a pig for sure. A cute pig, but a pig none the less.

As for my RSR opinion. The inside portion of it is absolutely a C/D ticket ride. The Mater animatrons are cool, the rest are just big, basic characters, with limited range movement. I would compare it with Monsters Inc, which most certainly isn't an E ticket.

Then the outside portions. The beginning outside portion is really nothing more than the Alice outside portion, with very large, and horribly forced perspective cliffs. The race portion is neat, but extremely mild, nowhere NEAR what TT does.

So, every section on its own is definitley NOT an E ticket, so the sum of them isn't either. It's just a REALLY expensive D ticket, in my book. It is a kiddie E ticket, in many ways with the same flaws as the Dwarf Coaster. They spent tons of money on theming, to make it look really nice, but the underlying ride is really a kids ride with very low thrills, no top level animatrons (heck, even Little Mermaid has Sebastian and Ursula, plus a lot of other fairly high end animatrons, among the cheapie ones).

Sorta like Journey at Tokyo DisneySea. Take out the Lava Monster, is it still an E ticket? At that point its a slow meander past incredible themeing, then a short fast seciton, and the end. If you didn't have that HOLY CRAP, that monster is AWESOME moment, the shortness of the ride would knock it down a step, imho. An E ticket needs that WOW moment. Indy is FULL of them, Splash has the riverboat ending. Mansion is just incredible thorughout.

Other rides I don't think are E tickets: Kali (it's a fairly standard rapids ride with one themed scene that makes no sense to the average rider, and then a drop), Soarin' (it's Boarin'), and really, Space Mountain, by todays standards is questionable. Inside coasters are pretty standard nowadays. Space is huge, but as others have said, very low on theming (dark isn't a theme), and a pretty standard coaster ride. DL's is definitely better than WDW with teh audio, and absolutely an E ticket during Ghost Galaxy days.

But hey, we're all different. I'm sure plenty of people thing that the moving Wii game with a themed line that is TSMM is an E ticket.

-Jason

~Semantics. ^^^^All of this. But, you're not crazy -- just somewhat biased & a tad persnickety.

~The argument is consistent, if you define an E ticket as a very popular ride or attraction. The mine train isn't open yet and was just featured in People magazine -- People. The amount of buzz surrounding the mine train is amazing.

~Roller coaster aficionados *may* scoff at the mine train. But, the general public is going to LOVE this head over heels.

~It's Tough To Be A Bug is a 4D film based on a 3D movie -- it's not a roller coaster and it's not remotely popular.

~Moving along to your bizarre assessment of Radiator Springs Racers -- here you describe the animatronics as "big, basic characters, with limited range movement". They're just gussied up robots and they're not going break dance for you. It's a ride, you will glance at them for 3 whole seconds before transitioning to the next scene. Realistic expectations are needed here -- it's not necessary for the animatronics to fly to the moon and back.

~This is the first time I've ever heard someone say that Test Track is more intense and has more features than RSR. I think TT is very mild -- fun but mild. Actually, I expect the mine train to have more thrills than TT. Before you flame me -- I feel the G forces when a normal elevator descends or driving on a hill or while on an airplane. I feel squeamish just by watching roller coaster and high heights. So, I admit even the mildest of rides are of some thrill to me, especially anything with a drop. I love roller coasters.

~Moving along.... you've also said that "the underlying ride is really a kids ride with very low thrills, no top level animatrons." How do you know this? We have yet to see any of the animatronics and I expect them to be top notch, even better than The Little Mermaid Ride.

~Lipstick on a pig? I really don't think so. This is a well built, masterly crafted structure with immense theming & details -- one that you have yet to experience. The cars feature state of art technology as well -- it may not be "Goliath" in terms of thrills but you haven't ridden in one quite like this. The experience will be a unique one.

~It's all subjective. You bash the mine train, RSR and basically every other ride at WDW as not being worthy of E ticket status. However, you consider The Haunted Mansion to be an E ticket. I totally disagree with this. I walked right by this and didn't know or care to see what it was for years. I know the Haunted Mansion is popular but I thought the movie came first. It just wasn't on my radar and I don't care for the theme.

~I totally agree with you about Kali -- but I understand why it's an E ticket.

~I actually have the Toy Story Wii game and it is essentially the same. But, I love TSM. The ride may be mediocre but the theming is over the top and it's super fun. Actually, it terms of thrills Star Tours 2.0 is more thrilling and just as themed but TSM is extremely popular and this is what propels it to being an E ticket attraction. That and the glaring lack of family attractions at DHS.

~So, there are a lot of variables to take into account. None of which you care to address objectively. It doesn't mean you're "wrong" it's just that "we're all different."

~You've posted pics of what isn't an E ticket but absolutely nothing to demonstrate what is. All you've done is tell us what appeals to just "you." But, at least you acknowledge that. Thanks so much for giving me a glimpse of the reasoning behind your opinions.

unfortunately some folks have tried to make E ticket attractions be a *superman* type coaster ride. That is a very narrow definition.

E ticket is generally/commonly still what Disney created it as...a top notch , over all attraction, with a combination of all parts,,story line, theming, effects, etc. Not just a thrill ride or coaster.

Certainty the Mine is shaping up to be a E-ticket. HP is a E-ticket, all the other usual ones, SM, Everest, HM, BTRR, ET at Uni, ETC.ETC

AKK

~As usual, very well said Tonka!

And remember, that bridge is supposed to be a 2 lane road!

-Jason

~It's beautiful, but I guess you were expecting The Golden Gate bridge. I get it. Initially, I felt that way about Beast's Castle, lol. I was really expecting a real castle but quickly learned to temper my expectations with the project. I think it looks beautiful for what it is. I just hope at some point you can find joy in appreciating the little things. Disney is about those fabulous details.

It's a Small World was once an E-Ticket ride (back when the term was real), I doubt many people have considered it one in a long time. What amounts to an "E-Ticket" now pretty much depends solely on the demand for the ride. I'm sure the Mine Train will be "E-Ticket" for some amount of time, just like the Belle play-along act is now. Whether either remains that demanding long term remains to be seen.

~This. Thank you.

Okay, I now officially know how my friends feel when I start going off about my passion for beer and why some are better than others (and how some people drink pure swill).

People are "into" certain things, and I can see there are plenty of theme park enthusiasts out there still defining and redefining the E-Ticket experience. I can see both sides of the coin.

For me, the ride looks like fun, and, just like Peter Pan, will allow me to "ride" one of my kids' favorite movies. I'm sure the kids will love it, and that's just fine with me.

~LOL. Likewise, my passion for shoes, handbags, & basically anything that's wearable.

 

[johde]

It's a Small World was once an E-Ticket ride (back when the term was real), I doubt many people have considered it one in a long time. What amounts to an "E-Ticket" now pretty much depends solely on the demand for the ride. I'm sure the Mine Train will be "E-Ticket" for some amount of time, just like the Belle play-along act is now. Whether either remains that demanding long term remains to be seen.

Back in the real "ticket" era though popularity wasn't necessarily the primary determination of ticket rating. Peter Pan a ride that still remains extremely popular was either a "C ticket" or "D ticket" depending on what year you visited. It was considered as technologically advances as Haunted Mansion, Country Bears, Pirates and the other "E ticket" attractions.

I know Disney is trying to sell 7DMC as a new E-Ticket attraction but they also promoted Voyage of the Little Mermaid as an E-Ticket attraction when it opened in DCA. While I enjoyed the Little Mermaid, and I'm sure I'll enjoy 7DMC I'm not sure it's "E-ticket" material.

 

[rastuso]

~Semantics. ^^^^All of this. But, you're not crazy -- just somewhat biased & a tad persnickety.

~The argument is consistent, if you define an E ticket as a very popular ride or attraction. The mine train isn't open yet and was just featured in People magazine -- People. The amount of buzz surrounding the mine train is amazing.

~Roller coaster aficionados *may* scoff at the mine train. But, the general public is going to LOVE this head over heels.

~It's Tough To Be A Bug is a 4D film based on a 3D movie -- it's not a roller coaster and it's not remotely popular.

~Moving along to your bizarre assessment of Radiator Springs Racers -- here you describe the animatronics as "big, basic characters, with limited range movement". They're just gussied up robots and they're not going break dance for you. It's a ride, you will glance at them for 3 whole seconds before transitioning to the next scene. Realistic expectations are needed here -- it's not necessary for the animatronics to fly to the moon and back.

~This is the first time I've ever heard someone say that Test Track is more intense and has more features than RSR. I think TT is very mild -- fun but mild. Actually, I expect the mine train to have more thrills than TT. Before you flame me -- I feel the G forces when a normal elevator descends or driving on a hill or while on an airplane. I feel squeamish just by watching roller coaster and high heights. So, I admit even the mildest of rides are of some thrill to me, especially anything with a drop. I love roller coasters.

~Moving along.... you've also said that "the underlying ride is really a kids ride with very low thrills, no top level animatrons." How do you know this? We have yet to see any of the animatronics and I expect them to be top notch, even better than The Little Mermaid Ride.

~Lipstick on a pig? I really don't think so. This is a well built, masterly crafted structure with immense theming & details -- one that you have yet to experience. The cars feature state of art technology as well -- it may not be "Goliath" in terms of thrills but you haven't ridden in one quite like this. The experience will be a unique one.

~It's all subjective. You bash the mine train, RSR and basically every other ride at WDW as not being worthy of E ticket status. However, you consider The Haunted Mansion to be an E ticket. I totally disagree with this. I walked right by this and didn't know or care to see what it was for years. I know the Haunted Mansion is popular but I thought the movie came first. It just wasn't on my radar and I don't care for the theme.

~I totally agree with you about Kali -- but I understand why it's an E ticket.

~I actually have the Toy Story Wii game and it is essentially the same. But, I love TSM. The ride may be mediocre but the theming is over the top and it's super fun. Actually, it terms of thrills Star Tours 2.0 is more thrilling and just as themed but TSM is extremely popular and this is what propels it to being an E ticket attraction. That and the glaring lack of family attractions at DHS.

~So, there are a lot of variables to take into account. None of which you care to address objectively. It doesn't mean you're "wrong" it's just that "we're all different."

~You've posted pics of what isn't an E ticket but absolutely nothing to demonstrate what is. All you've done is tell us what appeals to just "you." But, at least you acknowledge that. Thanks so much for giving me a glimpse of the reasoning behind your opinions.

~As usual, very well said Tonka!

~It's beautiful, but I guess you were expecting The Golden Gate bridge. I get it. Initially, I felt that way about Beast's Castle, lol. I was really expecting a real castle but quickly learned to temper my expectations with the project. I think it looks beautiful for what it is. I just hope at some point you can find joy in appreciating the little things. Disney is about those fabulous details.

~This. Thank you.

~LOL. Likewise, my passion for shoes, handbags, & basically anything that's wearable.

If a popular ride is E ticket, then as others have said, Peter Pan is an E ticket? Heck, meeting Mickey is an E ticket. Meeting Elsa and whatsherface is apparently an F ticket.

As for RSR being more thrilling that TT, how do you figure? Have you not rode RSR? It was always said by Disney to be low speed thrills for everyone. TT is the "fastest ride at WDW". RSR goes like 25 mph. Most of the tension and thrills of the outside section are actually a response to the fake motor noises and commentary, triggering your brain to think you have the pedal to the metal.

You can expect the Dwarf animatrons to be better than Ursala and Sebastian all day long. That doesn't make you right. And you realize their "new technology" could just be the newer skin material they used for the RSR animatrons, that I don't believe is anywhere on WDW property yet.

As for what IS an E-ticket? The usual: Mansion, Indy, BTMRR, POTC, Matterhorn, Splash, Dinosaur (although it's a poor copy of Indy), Everest (even with Disco Yeti), ToT, I'm not even sure if RnRC is. It's a standard off the shelf Vekoma model that is used elsewhere, the in-ride effects are about what other non-Disney parks do for inside coasters. An extravagant preshow and station don't make an E-ticket.

-Jason

 

[d1gitman]

personally I could care less what anyone labels a ride, if I like it, I like it, I really could give a mouse's hiney what anyone classifies a ride as. when i'm at Disney I go on the rides I want to, regardless of public opinion....stitch included

 

[Leader of the Pack]

Hope there are lots of sparkling diamonds and gems in the mine walls!

 

[FlipHipster]

personally I could care less what anyone labels a ride, if I like it, I like it, I really could give a mouse's hiney what anyone classifies a ride as. when i'm at Disney I go on the rides I want to, regardless of public opinion....stitch included

100% agree this board needs a like button!!! Just point us at the loading zone and get out of the way

Can't wait for the 7DMT I am sure it will be fun loops or not. I hope it pulls a lot of the crowd away from BTMRR as well.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

~Tonka! It's always good to have you around! And, of course, I agree with you -- it is an "easy" E ticket. You'll be among the first people to ride this in May! Yay!

~You're absolutely right. I define an E ticket as a very popular ride with long lines.


~Semantics. ^^^^All of this. But, you're not crazy -- just somewhat biased & a tad persnickety.

~The argument is consistent, if you define an E ticket as a very popular ride or attraction. The mine train isn't open yet and was just featured in People magazine -- People. The amount of buzz surrounding the mine train is amazing.

~Roller coaster aficionados *may* scoff at the mine train. But, the general public is going to LOVE this head over heels.

Well said all the way around, Tonka is right, it is definitely an E-ticket and the anchor for Fantasyland.

Persnickety. Excellent word usage.

It is semantics.

An E-ticket is whatever you want it to be. I define it two ways:

1. A major popular ride.
2. A ride that is a "must" for visitors at least once.

By my second definition, Peter Pan and It's a Small World are E-tickets because they are famous and "Musts" for every visitor at least once. Whereas ToT fits 1 and is very popular.

This is going to be big and very popular for the very reason that it is a unique and fun FAMILY ride.

 

[d1gitman]

does anyone know if the 7DMT will have a mountain name attached to it? my movie trivia is weak so I don't know if there is a named mountain in the movie (and no I haven't googled either)

 

[ucfknight]

does anyone know if the 7DMT will have a mountain name attached to it? my movie trivia is weak so I don't know if there is a named mountain in the movie (and no I haven't googled either)

Mini Mountain presented by Fisher Price

 

[EMode]

This is going to be big and very popular for the very reason that it is a unique and fun FAMILY ride.

I do agree that it will be a popular and a fun family ride but I think its just because it is a new ride. The theming and attention to detail will be spectacular because that is what WDW does, but I'm not sure I'd consider this attraction unique. If anything its just more of the same with a different theme. Which is fine, it seems Disney doesn't really want to do anything new and innovating in MK anymore because the same old same old works for them there. They have other parks they can do that in.

Adults will love it, kids will love it and it will probably be the most sought after FP+ to get when it opens, and people will probably be willing to spend hours in SB if they weren't lucky enough to get one. Sounds like the definition of E-ticket to me.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I don't understand how the Mine Train is not new? Yes the new theming and detail, the effects, the story line are over the top. The ride itself has new technology Disney designed for this attraction, the swaying mine cars.

There is lots of new here.

Now did they built just another thrill coaster.............no......it was never intended to be. Not a lot of guests want thrill coaster, it is not what Disney is about. The magic of Disney still shines (even if Iger dulled it. Hopefully he has finally woken up).

Seems a lot of new story lines attractions are being added, the new MK Parade, the night light show at the AK, Aviator land, Stars war, and maybe Car land.

AKK

 

[mom2rtk]

does anyone know if the 7DMT will have a mountain name attached to it? my movie trivia is weak so I don't know if there is a named mountain in the movie (and no I haven't googled either)

Dwarf Hill?

That said, I think it looks charming and do look forward to riding it. I'm one of the few who didn't mind giving up Snow White's Scary Adventures to get a new ride.