Seven Dwarfs Mine Train -Inside Portion

[FLchick415]

I was thinking September after Labor Day, but I dunno. Might wait until November

 

[Viva Las Disney]

Seems premature to assign a status to a ride that no one has ridden yet. If IASW, Country Bear Jamboree, or the Peoplemover were opening today I'm not sure how many people would consider them "E" ticket attractions either but they were. Something doesn't have to be a thrill ride to be popular.

SDMT could be great or a great letdown, personally I'm just glad they are adding something because the worst case scenario is even if I don't like it it'll shorten the lines a bit for everything else.

 

[Mad Hattered]

Seems premature to assign a status to a ride that no one has ridden yet. If IASW, Country Bear Jamboree, or the Peoplemover were opening today I'm not sure how many people would consider them "E" ticket attractions either but they were. Something doesn't have to be a thrill ride to be popular.

It's not 1974. E tickets have been redefined since then.

 

[rastuso]

I completely agree. I have said from day one that the themeing will be good. I never doubted that. It's something new. I don't think most people would argue that's a bad thing. But, Rat...I would totally put RS into the E ride category, myself. That ride is sweet.

It's a good ride, but to me E ticket has always meant it pushes the boundaries at that time JC is not an E anymore, and Pirates just barely is, due to the pure scope of the ride.

RSR is a D dark ride, and A D outside car ride. Nothing is WOW to me, and D+D<>E in my book. But, the American parks are out of the E ticket business it seems, since Everest. And it has lost its main weenie, with Disco Yeti.

-Jason

 

[prudence64]

I've lost interest in thrill rides as I've gotten older, so this more interesting to me than a big coaster going too fast to look around

 

[Mad Hattered]

If we are discussing E rides that Disney built then check this out from Disney Hong Kong. Just marvel at the "technology" in this ride (and it's long) Note the trackless vehicles (think Antarctica at Seaworld) that experience different ride scenes in each room (meaning it may not be the same ride twice in a row).

Mystic Manor (opened 8 months ago)

http://youtu.be/vwM2d4Wug4A

The Mine Train is no E ride.

 

[ucfknight]

If we are discussing E rides that Disney built then check this out from Disney Hong Kong. Just marvel at the "technology" in this ride (and it's long) Note the trackless vehicles (think Antarctica at Seaworld) that experience different ride scenes in each room (meaning it may not be the same ride twice in a row).

Mystic Manor (opened 8 months ago)

http://youtu.be/vwM2d4Wug4A

The Mine Train is no E ride.

It is sad Walt Disney World doesn't get any of the trackless E ticket love. When Ratatouille opens in Paris there will be, what, 4 trackless rides at Disney parks outside of the US?

I'd love to see them gut the stale Ellen's Energy Adventure and fill that huge building with a trackless motion based ride. All of those giant open flat rooms would be a great blank canvas.

Or how about something Star Wars based at the Studios as one of the headliners of a full Star Wars land?
Such a ride vehicle would also be perfect for a Frozen themed ride over in the Animation area.
Or even just a Ratatouille clone in an expanded Pixar land (do away with the shell of the Backlot Tour that's left and plop a great ride there to connect Toy Story with a cars re-themed Lights Motor Action.

 

[Mad Hattered]

It is sad Walt Disney World doesn't get any of the trackless E ticket love. When Ratatouille opens in Paris there will be, what, 4 trackless rides at Disney parks outside of the US?

I'd love to see them gut the stale Ellen's Energy Adventure and fill that huge building with a trackless motion based ride. All of those giant open flat rooms would be a great blank canvas.

Or how about something Star Wars based at the Studios as one of the headliners of a full Star Wars land?
Such a ride vehicle would also be perfect for a Frozen themed ride over in the Animation area.
Or even just a Ratatouille clone in an expanded Pixar land (do away with the shell of the Backlot Tour that's left and plop a great ride there to connect Toy Story with a cars re-themed Lights Motor Action.

I completely agree with you, UCF. I love all of your ideas. It sounds perfect on paper. Now if we could just get them to take advantage of it in FL!

 

[ucfknight]

I completely agree with you, UCF. I love all of your ideas. It sounds perfect on paper. Now if we could just get them to take advantage of it in FL!

Maybe the Imagineers can sell the ride to the decision makers as just a "preshow" to draw people into a huge DVC sales kiosk at the end of the ride.

 

[Mad Hattered]

Maybe the Imagineers can sell the ride to the decision makers as just a "preshow" to draw people into a huge DVC sales kiosk at the end of the ride.

Isn't there one on the back of the Mine Train, near Under the Sea?

 

[Viva Las Disney]

I'd love to see them gut the stale Ellen's Energy Adventure and fill that huge building with a trackless motion based ride. All of those giant open flat rooms would be a great blank canvas.

Love this! Aren't there 2 other buildings already sitting empty in Epcot? I'm a Disney fan boy but Epcot's ride lineup is pretty sad, underutilized buildings in prime locations only makes it worse.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Uhhh, they left the cottage out at the end, but not much else. Show me where it would be based on that diagram?

And this is NO E ticket by any stretch.

~The diagrams are very nice but I think there is more to this ride than that. We'll just have to agree to disagree because I think the mine train is an E-ticket.

I think this attraction has the potential to redefine "E ticket." Maybe there's something to be said about the art/theming and total experience vs. the "thrill" aspect. How thrilling are HM, POTC, Peter Pan? But the experience is worth going to WDW. This is kind of thing that Disney can do that leaves the other theme parks in the dust. Let's hope they can pull it off.

~Honestly, I don't think the mine train has to redefine "E ticket."

~Space Mountain goes 30 miles per hour (if that) and then Disney added brakes to make it go even slower! Space Mountain doesn't have half the theming of the mine train.

I think it is going to be E-ticket also. It is going to be the centerpiece of Fantasyland. The reason it will be E-ticket is the combination of elements. A family coaster by itself isn't much, but with the dark ride elements, cool theming, swinging cars, and some new animatronics. All of this together will make a great ride. Exactly what MK needed. MK did not need Rockin' Rollercoaster.

~Thank you yellowstonetim! I couldn't agree more.

~I can't believe posters are saying that Radiator Springs Racers is a "D+" ticket attraction. LOL, when did we start adding pluses and minuses -- it's not that serious. Test Track is an E ticket and Radiator Springs Racers blows that away but somehow it's a "D+ ticket" -- give me a break.

~Sorry, but this looks fabulous to me & it doesn't even need a mine.

Seems premature to assign a status to a ride that no one has ridden yet. If IASW, Country Bear Jamboree, or the Peoplemover were opening today I'm not sure how many people would consider them "E" ticket attractions either but they were. Something doesn't have to be a thrill ride to be popular.

SDMT could be great or a great letdown, personally I'm just glad they are adding something because the worst case scenario is even if I don't like it it'll shorten the lines a bit for everything else.

~Great post! There are many people who consider Soarin and Mission Space to be E ticket attractions -- even Story Time w/Belle and TSMM. For me, 7DMT is a solid E ticket and I have my expectations in check. Can't wait to see it!

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Despite the mine portion, long or short, the videos we have now show a amazing bit of theming and engineering. Over the top, head and shoulders over any other attractions any where. This is by far a easy E ticket.

This and Cars land and other attractions show Disney is back on track and we can expect this type of excellence in the future with Avatar, Star Wars, etc.

Can't wait for our trip in May!

AKK

 

[think-like-tink]

I think we are going to love it. We LOVE Disney movies and to go "into" the movie is just plain fun.

I appreciate the opinions about MK needing a true blue thrill ride. My opinion, I love how MK gives my family the warm fuzzies.... Animal Kingdom gets us in touch with our nature side, Epcot make us smarter (and drunker,or fatter, or both) Hollywood studios makes us scare the crap out of kids in a good way.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I think we are going to love it. We LOVE Disney movies and to go "into" the movie is just plain fun.

I appreciate the opinions about MK needing a true blue thrill ride. My opinion, I love how MK gives my family the warm fuzzies.... Animal Kingdom gets us in touch with our nature side, Epcot make us smarter (and drunker,or fatter, or both) Hollywood studios makes us scare the crap out of kids in a good way.

Well said!. You really hit the nail on the head. All of that is what makes WDW and Disney parks head and shoulders above and special over the other parks.

Does that make Disney perfect.no way, I believe we all know Iger messed up, but things seem to be turning around now.

Does that make the other parks bad?. Certainty not. If folks what their parks to be mostly thrill rides.........then have at it.......enjoy.

However the continuing high attendance and joy that the Disney Experience brings to millions show they get it!

AKK

 

[Spork24]

It's not 1974. E tickets have been redefined since then.

"E tickets" don't actually exist anymore, so who is to say what an "E ticket ride is. Am I missing some classification from Disney? Or are E tickets just whatever you think is an E ticket?

 

[Mad Hattered]

"E tickets" don't actually exist anymore, so who is to say what an "E ticket ride is. Am I missing some classification from Disney? Or are E tickets just whatever you think is an E ticket?

From Wiki:

Although they were officially called "coupons", visitors commonly referred to the admission media as "tickets", as they were often sold in "ticket books". This gave rise to the term "E ticket". Disney has continued to informally call its best attractions "E tickets", even those opened after the coupon system was discontinued, such as Splash Mountain, Indiana Jones Adventure, The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, and Soarin' Over California.

The Mine Train in not in the same class as any of the rides mentioned above. A waterfall is now what makes an E ride?

 

[rastuso]

~The diagrams are very nice but I think there is more to this ride than that. We'll just have to agree to disagree because I think the mine train is an E-ticket.

~Honestly, I don't think the mine train has to redefine "E ticket."

~Space Mountain goes 30 miles per hour (if that) and then Disney added brakes to make it go even slower! Space Mountain doesn't have half the theming of the mine train.

~Thank you yellowstonetim! I couldn't agree more.

~I can't believe posters are saying that Radiator Springs Racers is a "D+" ticket attraction. LOL, when did we start adding pluses and minuses -- it's not that serious. Test Track is an E ticket and Radiator Springs Racers blows that away but somehow it's a "D+ ticket" -- give me a break.

~Sorry, but this looks fabulous to me & it doesn't even need a mine.

~Great post! There are many people who consider Soarin and Mission Space to be E ticket attractions -- even Story Time w/Belle and TSMM. For me, 7DMT is a solid E ticket and I have my expectations in check. Can't wait to see it!

Arguing that someone is wrong saying RSR is not an E ticket, and then saying the mine train definitely IS, doesn't really make a consistent argument.

The Dwarf coaster is most certainly, unequivocally, NOT an E ticket ride. If great theming makes an E ticket, should ITTBAB be an E ticket? what about the LINE for Indiana Jones at DL? That alone has incredible theming, interactive bits, a movie, and stairs!

The theming on SDMT is lipstick on a pig for sure. A cute pig, but a pig none the less.

As for my RSR opinion. The inside portion of it is absolutely a C/D ticket ride. The Mater animatrons are cool, the rest are just big, basic characters, with limited range movement. I would compare it with Monsters Inc, which most certainly isn't an E ticket.

Then the outside portions. The beginning outside portion is really nothing more than the Alice outside portion, with very large, and horribly forced perspective cliffs. The race portion is neat, but extremely mild, nowhere NEAR what TT does.

So, every section on its own is definitley NOT an E ticket, so the sum of them isn't either. It's just a REALLY expensive D ticket, in my book. It is a kiddie E ticket, in many ways with the same flaws as the Dwarf Coaster. They spent tons of money on theming, to make it look really nice, but the underlying ride is really a kids ride with very low thrills, no top level animatrons (heck, even Little Mermaid has Sebastian and Ursula, plus a lot of other fairly high end animatrons, among the cheapie ones).

Sorta like Journey at Tokyo DisneySea. Take out the Lava Monster, is it still an E ticket? At that point its a slow meander past incredible themeing, then a short fast seciton, and the end. If you didn't have that HOLY CRAP, that monster is AWESOME moment, the shortness of the ride would knock it down a step, imho. An E ticket needs that WOW moment. Indy is FULL of them, Splash has the riverboat ending. Mansion is just incredible thorughout.

Other rides I don't think are E tickets: Kali (it's a fairly standard rapids ride with one themed scene that makes no sense to the average rider, and then a drop), Soarin' (it's Boarin'), and really, Space Mountain, by todays standards is questionable. Inside coasters are pretty standard nowadays. Space is huge, but as others have said, very low on theming (dark isn't a theme), and a pretty standard coaster ride. DL's is definitely better than WDW with teh audio, and absolutely an E ticket during Ghost Galaxy days.

But hey, we're all different. I'm sure plenty of people thing that the moving Wii game with a themed line that is TSMM is an E ticket.

-Jason

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

unfortunately some folks have tried to make E ticket attractions be a *superman* type coaster ride. That is a very narrow definition.

E ticket is generally/commonly still what Disney created it as...a top notch , over all attraction, with a combination of all parts,,story line, theming, effects, etc. Not just a thrill ride or coaster.

Certainty the Mine is shaping up to be a E-ticket. HP is a E-ticket, all the other usual ones, SM, Everest, HM, BTRR, ET at Uni, ETC.ETC

AKK

 

[EMode]

I think it looks great, but IMO its the same old Disney. Where is the innovation? Don't get me wrong I love Snow White and I'll definitely try the ride whenever I go back, but I'm not sure I'm going to get off it thinking it was amazing.