Sept 4-8 2005 Wonder S.S. Member Cruise! Part 4

[WDWLVR]

I think I had at least 6 pages to catch up on this morning.

I'm regretting putting sleep before fun. That is this morning. Last night I was dragging.

Last night every time I went to go to another area of the DIS to read and then log off to sleep i would see another post had been made. So of course I had to go back and read it. I finally did give in before most of the others.

 

[Diana Lyn]

I would bet Amy has never seen a full blown temper tantrum from either of her girls.

Anyone notice how no one is saying MY kids didn't have temper tantrums or cry?

 

[Diana Lyn]

Last night every time I went to go to another area of the DIS to read and then log off to sleep i would see another post had been made. So of course I had to go back and read it. I finally did give in before most of the others.

I was bouncing back and forth between here and the LOST spoiler thread. I don't know which one was moving faster, it was making my head spin!

 

[WDWLVR]

Well guys work beckons - I'll try and check in at lunch time.


Have a great day everyone!

 

[alikat99]

Diana - I don't think that your girls had a meltdown like Emily did, though!! She was truly a spectacle!!!

Well, my day is filled with laundry & cleaning!! YUCK!!! I also need to bring our Expedition in for brakes. I think that they are going, and it's definitely something that needs to be fixed ASAP.

 

[cgcw]

Don't you wish you could flip your emotions like a child does. 15 minutes of screaming and crying and carrying on would ruin my day as well as many days afterwards. I would carry that baggage with me.

But not kids, they can flip as easily as a pancake. It amazes me every time!

I need to flip my emotions like a kid does this morning.

I'm so angry. I just terminated one of my daycare families as they dropped of their child today.

I have a 3 year old who since he joined my daycare 11 months ago, has not liked a 3 year old girl I care for. To the point where he won't play with her and is downright nasty to her. Yesterday was one of those days. He told this little girl, very nasty, "I don't want to play with you". The little girl came to me upset because he hurt her feelings. So, I put him in a time out and said, we all play together. We were at a gym class during this time.

I knew the mom was not happy when her son told her last night. I said, I've told you in the past, we play together and are nice to our friends.

Dad comes in today to drop off. I knew he was angry. Asks me how his son's day was yesterday and told me he didn't think that situation warranted a time out. I should have told him he hurt the little girls feelings. I said, had it been the 1st time (and not the 30th!!), I would have done that but that behaviour is unacceptable. The dad gets even more angry. His son is standing there, watching this. The rest of my daycare is eating breakfast. Cameron & Walker are in their rooms getting dressed. Finally, I said, we are not going to have this conversation any more, feel free to call me this evening or at nap time. The dad goes on to say he thinks the REST of the kids need to hear our altercation!

I'm furious.

They will have their formal termination papers tonight upon pick up.

Now if I could just calm down. Gee!

 

[alikat99]

I need to flip my emotions like a kid does this morning.

I'm so angry. I just terminated one of my daycare families as they dropped of their child today.

I have a 3 year old who since he joined my daycare 11 months ago, has not liked a 3 year old girl I care for. To the point where he won't play with her and is downright nasty to her. Yesterday was one of those days. He told this little girl, very nasty, "I don't want to play with you". The little girl came to me upset because he hurt her feelings. So, I put him in a time out and said, we all play together. We were at a gym class during this time.

I knew the mom was not happy when her son told her last night. I said, I've told you in the past, we play together and are nice to our friends.

Dad comes in today to drop off. I knew he was angry. Asks me how his son's day was yesterday and told me he didn't think that situation warranted a time out. I should have told him he hurt the little girls feelings. I said, had it been the 1st time (and not the 30th!!), I would have done that but that behaviour is unacceptable. The dad gets even more angry. His son is standing there, watching this. The rest of my daycare is eating breakfast. Cameron & Walker are in their rooms getting dressed. Finally, I said, we are not going to have this conversation any more, feel free to call me this evening or at nap time. The dad goes on to say he thinks the REST of the kids need to hear our altercation!

I'm furious.

They will have their formal termination papers tonight upon pick up.

Now if I could just calm down. Gee!

Oh Cindy - I'm so sorry that you're having a bad day!! Sometimes parents can just be unreasonable. Kids don't EVER need to hear adults argue, it's just not good for them.

 

[cgcw]

Anyone notice how no one is saying MY kids didn't have temper tantrums or cry?

I will say it!!!

Your daughters are angels too!!!

They really are!!!

 

[Diana Lyn]

I will say it!!!

Your daughters are angels too!!!

They really are!!!

Angels with little horns sprouting out of their heads....maybe!

Speaking of meltdowns....Emma couldn't seem to understand why she can't have the knife I used to cut up her pancakes this morning. She's still mad about it. I REALLY need to get out today!

 

[Diana Lyn]

I'm furious.

They will have their formal termination papers tonight upon pick up.

Now if I could just calm down. Gee!

I'm sorry. and a should definitely cheer you up!

 

[HookdonWDW]

261 photos to be exact Cindy ... and those are just the ones I uploaded to Winkflash and printed. As my book kept getting larger and larger I had to be more creative in putting at least 6 photos on a page. It took two trips (in the pouring rain) to AC to buy more pages. Everyone I've shown it to think it looks nice. I even showed it to DBF parents last night and they totally don't "get" Disney and even they were considering a Disney cruise afterward My favorite page is the DIS page w/ our scrap class pics, pin and all the other goodies.

Wow, 261! I bet your album looks great. I always love that sense of accomplishment when I finish an album (although if you've seen my scrap closet lately, there hasn't been a lot of "accomplishing" going on this year !

 

[HookdonWDW]

Gosh, your life sounds like mine.....

"yeah, I'd love to get together....How about the second weekend in April??"

HEY! Have you been looking at my calendar???

Wait second week of April is booked... how about the first weekend in May?

 

[ohiominnie]

I need to flip my emotions like a kid does this morning.

I'm so angry. I just terminated one of my daycare families as they dropped of their child today.

You give me that guys phone number and I'll read him the riot act. YOU are an awesome child care provider. I went through SEVERAL with KT and no one was quite like you! He has NO idea what he's giving up by being a total jerk!

The kids need to see the altercation???????????? Shouldn't we be modeling conflict resolution in a grown up way?

You did the right thing, Cindy! Unfortunately there aren't enough ppl willing to follow through and give time outs or (dare I say) spankings anymore.

 

[ohiominnie]

HEY! Have you been looking at my calendar???

Wait second week of April is booked... how about the first weekend in May?

I'll get back to you. Ballet teacher wants to have recital in early May this year instead of end of May/early June. Not sure on the date.

good thing she's moving it....we'll be CRUISING and doing WDW the last of May/first of June!!

 

[HookdonWDW]

Now they are all older, and the parents still feel homework is "optional". The kids are involved in all sorts of sports and are not expected to do any homework. That I just don't get.

Ahhh... the stories I could tell!!! "Good" parents would never believe how many parents are this way. When I was teaching, I had parents who TOLD me that homework wouldn't be done on school nights, that all work should be done IN school, that I was interfering with their family time, that sports come first, and my all time personal favorite: They felt like I was making school a "job" for their child (ummm... school is a child's job. ).

They all ended up getting the same general answer: "My classroom, my rules." I'm a firm believer in homework. I think it sets you up to develop the study and concentration skills you need in college and in the workforce. I used their kids to win them over. If you attempted the work, you got an A, if it was late it got a C or F... so no homework= no A's on report cards, and no chance to play my homework game .

 

[HookdonWDW]

The dad goes on to say he thinks the REST of the kids need to hear our altercation!

I'm furious.

They will have their formal termination papers tonight upon pick up.

Now if I could just calm down. Gee!

Aww... Cindy

Take a deep breath, and know that you're doing the right thing. You can't have a parent undermining your authority. My response would be that since you both obviously have diametrically opposed ideas as to what is a healthy day care situation for a child and since he obviously lacks the ability to respect your decisions as a paid child care PROFESSIONAL, you believe that their family would be happier elsewhere.

Then smile, knowing that you did your best. The hardest part of working with kids is when you know that the problems really have more to do with the parents and how they're being raised than with the kids themselves. If dad shows you so little respect in front of the children, it's understandable why the child wouldn't think that being respectful of his peers is important.

 

[HookdonWDW]

Speaking of meltdowns....Emma couldn't seem to understand why she can't have the knife I used to cut up her pancakes this morning. She's still mad about it. I REALLY need to get out today!

Hey, be proud! That's a developmental milestone! (And the opening for hearing "I can do it all by myself!" so much that you'll start to feel mocked ). Have you thought about giving her a plastic knife so she can try cutting it herself? Just put the syrup in a puddle to the side so she can dip the pieces in (like ketchup) instead of on the pancakes (less sticky mess to pick up).

Just think... it just gets better from here on!

 

[HookdonWDW]

Looks like I'm done talking to myself! Have a great morning all!!

 

[MaryJ]

Cindy,

Just wanted to let you know that you're in my thoughts today. You are doing the right thing. I work with preschoolers and the cardinal rule is "Never talk about the child in front of him, let alone see you argue!"

I'll be thinking about you as the end of the day draws near, but in the meantime, let me send you another

Mary

 

[Bompy213]

Cindy as Lisa and MaryJ said --- you did the right thing. I give you a ton of credit for standing up to the parents the way you do. I would say that the number two thing that pushed me out of teaching were the parents. I find them very difficult. They still make me angry as I continue to deal with them in Children's Room at the library but it's much different...I'm not "in charge" of their child for an entire day. Lisa I like your attitude. I was the exact opposite, a caver. I buckled under the pressure always. As a librarian I deal with the public and do just fine setting/stating the rules and such, but parents can be a real tough bunch. Way to go ladies and sorry to any parents I may have offended!

Mary - love your idea of making a scrapbook w/ all of the Disney trips in that year. 2006 will be kicked off w/ a Jan. trip to Disneyland so maybe '06 will be the challenge for me.

I can credit the completion of my scrapbook to the fact that my parents were away in wdw (so the house was quiet) and DBF's police schedule was 4-12s for the entire weekend which totally wastes the day as far as doing anything like a day trip or shopping. I was also feeling a bit under the weather so I turned down some offers to go out w/ friends... instead I sat...watched Lilo & Stitch 2, Anne of Green Gables and the weather channel and scrapped.