SDFP: CHANGES COMING!! Beware the 7th of June?!

[ScrapYap]

Thank you ScrapYap - I knew you guys would come through for me!

1. For unlinked MNSSHP tickets, what 'names' will come up for the SDFPs on the kiosks? Or will it not really matter?

2. This is prob the route I will go - DW is going to kill me if she realizes that I can make 3 'complete' sets of FPs though!

3. This is prob the route I Should go - just to make things easier - but the thought of having all those 'extra' FPs makes me salivate! lol

Bonus Q - Yes - we called and did the 3-way thing to get his discount on the Hub. He does have some unused Comps - With those being 1-day tickets, I would only be able to make 1 day of GLFPs - correct? Then, what happens to those once they get used? Can you then use those 'used' tickets as SDFPs?

If the MNSSHP tickets were purchased at Company D, they won't have been linked - so no name will come up. The same is true for plenty of day tickets - when the guest visits a kiosk for FP, no name appears. Which doesn't matter. Except, if I were you, I would link them - and on your primary MDE. It will make it easier to keep track of which FP are on which card/band if they have names. And when you photograph the kiosk screen, you'll know which card is which. After you pick the phantom names and link the cards one by one, use a thick black Sharpie to write the name or initial on the front of the card as you go along.

The SDFP aren't necessarily all that great - not worth salivation. Though the comps are another story.

There are probably two comps, one day hoppers. Unless he's been a CM since last winter - in which case he might have four. Click on "print tickets" and copy down the long number under the barcode. Use that number to link the ticket to a party phantom on your profile. Note that you can reassign an unused ticket as many times as you like. For now, give the two comps to two phantoms.

Select FP for the phantoms right now by selecting a resort guest plus the phantoms in a FP booking group. At the next click, you'll be prompted to remove the resort guest from the group, since the resort guest already has FP - go ahead and remove, the phantoms can proceed. You can only book one day of GLFP for the phantoms - since you only have one day's worth of tickets for each.

There is no need to bring the paper ticket to the park. In fact, it would do you no good, since you're not using it for park entry. You need a "door" into the room where a comp sits - which is why it would be ideal to link the comps to the same phantom profiles to which you've linked party tickets. The party tickets will be your doors to the GLFP.

Note that two of your party tickets now have GLFP - which means you can't also get SDFP with those two - only the other two party tickets. But you've got FP with your primaries, SDFP with your secondary bands, and two GLFP. You don't need yet another set of SDFP. If you preferred for some reason, you could link the comps to one of the secondary profiles and use those resort MBs that just arrived to access the GLFP. But then you'd have to link the two profiles as friends in order to reassign the comps down the road. It's much better to keep everything important on one MDE. So I'd assign the comps to phantoms on the primary - and link the party tickets to the same phantoms. If you only linked the comps to profiles with no MBs and no cards, you would have no way to access the GLFP at the rides.

At the end of the park day for the two GLFP, you can go in and book another day's worth of GLFP for the next day (and so on, each evening). The ticket entitlement will be untouched until you use it at park entrance (or until the ticket expires eventually).

But if DW is the conscience of the family, you'd better defer to her, young man.

And to answer your PS - if you've used a paper ticket to enter, you'll be given a plastic card - and yes, you can use that card for SDFP (like any other non-cloned card or non-cloned linked band).

The one thing you shouldn't use would be your CM's guest passes. Unless he's signing you in - in which case you can pre-book FP with them. But don't touch them if he's not using them for park entrance.

 

[tadsml@aol.com]

Scrapyap - I cannot thank you enough for the information on SDFP. We just returned from a trip and used SDFP. Availability was very good. I had our 3 fastpasses set up for our top priority rides and used SDFP for the rest. We did not wait in any line longer than 20 minutes the 5 days we were in the parks. We were a large group (12) so I was worried about ride availability but we were able to get fastpasses for everything we wanted (and more!). It takes a bit of planning but it worked as advertised. I made sure to take a photo of the screen when I was done and used that to keep track of what we had. Thank you so much!

 

[ckelly14]

I am so tempted to buy a set of 7 day hoppers from park savers for GLFP. Anyone else?!

I have an extra set of tickets linked to phantoms on another MDE that I use for GLFP+. I think GLFP is the way to go until they get rid of this loophole.

 

[Lisa F]

Ok I read the whole first part and skipped what was in blue and red because I do not think they apply to me (we are doing MVMCP but have a 3:30 Ohana reservation and will only have time for a couple of FPs before the party starts and are taking the rest of the day off so may not even be able to use my 3 FPs that I can prebook).

This is my situation and it is not directly addressed in your FAQ but I think it is somewhat unique.

I am a DVC member traveling solo with my 8 year old son, who has an AP. We both also have "vanity" magic bands - kiddo has BB8, I have a dooney & bourke one.

I am also doing a split stay.

I am doing my first night at AK Kidani in a studio - I currently have two of us booked, but the capacity for the room is 4, arriving late in the day and going to AK first thing in the morning. This was added on to my trip so that we could fly out a day earlier.

The remainder of my trip was a planned split stay - 4 nights at BWV and 3 nights at the Poly.

My plan for magic bands was to order one set for one of my stays as a backup to our vanity magic bands (i like having a spare in case my son loses his). Since they will send me so many for free I figured why not? I would order pink for me and blue for the kiddo (who is also an AP). I plan to wear and use the vanity magicbands for the duration of the trip.

Would it be possible to do the following:

book two more people into my single night at AKL... say one with my middle name as their first name and one with kiddo's middle name as their first name. Then order a purple MB for my middle name. Order a green MB for his middle name. Then would these things be linked in perpetuity to my MDE account?

Then I could theoretically book SDFPs first thing in the morning at a kiosk in a park and track those for the remainder of my trip on my phone without having to have phantom people in my rooms the entire trip because those magic bands will be linked to MDE from the first night? Am I getting it right? I do not want to have to add phantom people to my BWV stay because I am doing DxDDP then and don't want to pay for extra credits.

But if I am reading this right, I can get 2 free MBs attached to phantom people and no tickets and they would be linked to my MDE account and I can get SDFPs with them and track them on my MDE app on my phone?

Thanks for the help/clarification.

 

[hiroMYhero]

book two more people into my single night at AKL... say one with my middle name as their first name and one with kiddo's middle name as their first name. Then order a purple MB for my middle name. Order a green MB for his middle name. Then would these things be linked in perpetuity to my MDE account?

This works and the names really don't matter. You can always Edit names prior to another trip if anyone else joins you two.

 

[IndyJammer]

If the MNSSHP tickets were purchased at Company D, they won't have been linked - so no name will come up. The same is true for plenty of day tickets - when the guest visits a kiosk for FP, no name appears. Which doesn't matter. Except, if I were you, I would link them - and on your primary MDE. It will make it easier to keep track of which FP are on which card/band if they have names. And when you photograph the kiosk screen, you'll know which card is which. After you pick the phantom names and link the cards one by one, use a thick black Sharpie to write the name or initial on the front of the card as you go along.

The SDFP aren't necessarily all that great - not worth salivation. Though the comps are another story.

There are probably two comps, one day hoppers. Unless he's been a CM since last winter - in which case he might have four. Click on "print tickets" and copy down the long number under the barcode. Use that number to link the ticket to a party phantom on your profile. Note that you can reassign an unused ticket as many times as you like. For now, give the two comps to two phantoms.

Select FP for the phantoms right now by selecting a resort guest plus the phantoms in a FP booking group. At the next click, you'll be prompted to remove the resort guest from the group, since the resort guest already has FP - go ahead and remove, the phantoms can proceed. You can only book one day of GLFP for the phantoms - since you only have one day's worth of tickets for each.

There is no need to bring the paper ticket to the park. In fact, it would do you no good, since you're not using it for park entry. You need a "door" into the room where a comp sits - which is why it would be ideal to link the comps to the same phantom profiles to which you've linked party tickets. The party tickets will be your doors to the GLFP.

Note that two of your party tickets now have GLFP - which means you can't also get SDFP with those two - only the other two party tickets. But you've got FP with your primaries, SDFP with your secondary bands, and two GLFP. You don't need yet another set of SDFP. If you preferred for some reason, you could link the comps to one of the secondary profiles and use those resort MBs that just arrived to access the GLFP. But then you'd have to link the two profiles as friends in order to reassign the comps down the road. It's much better to keep everything important on one MDE. So I'd assign the comps to phantoms on the primary - and link the party tickets to the same phantoms. If you only linked the comps to profiles with no MBs and no cards, you would have no way to access the GLFP at the rides.

At the end of the park day for the two GLFP, you can go in and book another day's worth of GLFP for the next day (and so on, each evening). The ticket entitlement will be untouched until you use it at park entrance (or until the ticket expires eventually).

But if DW is the conscience of the family, you'd better defer to her, young man.

And to answer your PS - if you've used a paper ticket to enter, you'll be given a plastic card - and yes, you can use that card for SDFP (like any other non-cloned card or non-cloned linked band).

The one thing you shouldn't use would be your CM's guest passes. Unless he's signing you in - in which case you can pre-book FP with them. But don't touch them if he's not using them for park entrance.

GLFP FTW!

So, it turns out that I actually 'won' 4 1-day PHs in a charity auction in February. My plan was to use them to get in to the Parks and then upgrade them to APs - but then I realized those tickets cannot be upgraded so I thought I'd just keep them for future use (sometime in the next 2 years before they expire). DS was able to get the rest of us APs with the CM discount.

But, I had those lying around collecting space - I put them to use with 4 phantoms (named Alexander, Aaron, Eliza & Angelica) and then linked the 1-day passes to them and set up FPs through MDE for our upcoming trip!

What is the advantage of linking the MNSSHP tickets to the phantoms as well? (Or is there one?)

Thank you Scrapyap & Hiro for all of this info!

ps - DW isn't worried about the ethics of it all - she's worried about which MB to use so I'll prob just keep my phantoms on the card so it's easy to tell which is on MBs and which are on cards!

 

[hiroMYhero]

What is the advantage of linking the MNSSHP tickets to the phantoms as well? (Or is there one?)

There will only be an advantage if you link them to a 2nd set of phantoms. Then for that specific party day you'll have one set of regular FPs, one set of GLFPs, and one set of FPs off of the Party tickets. The hard tickets can be used for SDFPs from the kiosk on all days except the party day.

 

[jhoannam]

Scrapyap - I cannot thank you enough for the information on SDFP. We just returned from a trip and used SDFP. Availability was very good. I had our 3 fastpasses set up for our top priority rides and used SDFP for the rest. We did not wait in any line longer than 20 minutes the 5 days we were in the parks. We were a large group (12) so I was worried about ride availability but we were able to get fastpasses for everything we wanted (and more!). It takes a bit of planning but it worked as advertised. I made sure to take a photo of the screen when I was done and used that to keep track of what we had. Thank you so much!

Did you schedule you advance FP for the morning and your SDFP for the afternoon/evening? My FP+ day is tomorrow and I'm trying to decide what time to start my FP+ reservations.

 

[Jrits]

Is there any way to get extra fast passes before you enter the park? I have extra MBs from a friend but they don't have current tickets on them do I believe those can only be for SDFP. Any other way to get extra FP in advance?

 

[Lisa F]

This works and the names really don't matter. You can always Edit names prior to another trip if anyone else joins you two.

Is there any way to edit your DVC reservation online or I have to call member services to add people to it?

 

[hiroMYhero]

Is there any way to edit your DVC reservation online or I have to call member services to add people to it?

You'll have to call.

 

[jpwest]

Help me figure out how best to take advantage of what I have. I had it nailed, but now am questioning myself.
On my MDE, I have four "real" profiles, I'll call them #1-4. I also have four phantom profiles, #1p-4p.
1-4 each has a November resort reservation, 5-day hopper (with MB to be sent in two months), MVMCP ticket and MVMCP card.
1p-4p each has a 5-day ticket for a future trip. These had previously been assigned to 1-4. The cards that came with these tickets are still assigned to 1-4 (can't reassign cards) and are currently set to inactive.

As I understand it, all of my MBs and cards are irrevocably locked to my real profiles, 1-4. So I would not be able to get SDFPs or GLFPs using any of my current physical media.
To get extra FPs, I would need to purchase new MBs and register them to 1p-4p. This would let me claim FPs 30 days ahead of my trip.
Right?

 

[ScrapYap]

Help me figure out how best to take advantage of what I have. I had it nailed, but now am questioning myself.
On my MDE, I have four "real" profiles, I'll call them #1-4. I also have four phantom profiles, #1p-4p.
1-4 each has a November resort reservation, 5-day hopper (with MB to be sent in two months), MVMCP ticket and MVMCP card.
1p-4p each has a 5-day ticket for a future trip. These had previously been assigned to 1-4. The cards that came with these tickets are still assigned to 1-4 (can't reassign cards) and are currently set to inactive.

As I understand it, all of my MBs and cards are irrevocably locked to my real profiles, 1-4. So I would not be able to get SDFPs or GLFPs using any of my current physical media.
To get extra FPs, I would need to purchase new MBs and register them to 1p-4p. This would let me claim FPs 30 days ahead of my trip.
Right?

Right, you need a doorway into the tickets assigned to the phantoms. You could try going to guest services and telling them that you have reassigned tickets to other family members and understand that the cards are stuck on to the original guests - and can they issue you some new card for those tickets. They'll ask for your MDE email address so they can see for themselves what entitlements your other "family members" have. They'll give you cards to access those entitlements. You might have to link them yourself.

The GLFP can be booked at 60 days - search for the word "umbrella" on the first page of the thread. You'll just have to stop to get the cards at a guest services before you go into the first park. If you don't want to ask for cards, you could just buy the bands.

 

[ScrapYap]

Is there any way to get extra fast passes before you enter the park? I have extra MBs from a friend but they don't have current tickets on them do I believe those can only be for SDFP. Any other way to get extra FP in advance?

Use ctrl F on the first page of the thread to search for GLFP. All the ways to get extra FP, in advance or not, are detailed at length on the first page.

 

[tadsml@aol.com]

Did you schedule you advance FP for the morning and your SDFP for the afternoon/evening? My FP+ day is tomorrow and I'm trying to decide what time to start my FP+ reservations.

I scheduled our advance fastpasses starting at 10:30. As soon as I could after getting to the park, I used the kiosk to set up 2 sets of SDFP. That allowed us to have a fastpass every 30 minutes. After the first 3 advance fastpasses were used I scheduled another. I also used the kiosk when we used the 3 on the SDFP's to schedule another. It was alot to keep track of but I took photos of all the screens and used those for reference.

 

[hayesdvc]

Does anyone have any creative ideas to cut down/modify your SDFP magicbands so they will not be bulky to carry around?

 

[Jrits]

Use ctrl F on the first page of the thread to search for GLFP. All the ways to get extra FP, in advance or not, are detailed at length on the first page.

What is glfp?

 

[Wood Nymph]

What is glfp?

I looked it up yesterday since I didn't know what it meant, either. It is the fastpasses that you can make from having an extra ticket. We've been using our son-in-law's unused 5 day park hopper and my sister's ticket to generate two sets of fastpasses at 60 days out. We just had to ask for their MagicBands and we were good to go. It has worked great so far. We've used the extra tickets on two trips now and I've booked a third trip with them.

You might want to go to the first post of this thread for a detailed explanation. here is just a bit of it:

Tell me more about GLFP and why it's FP Nirvana?
To become a power user of multiple FP, don't bother with SDFP. Instead, invest in a set of tickets for next year's Disney trip before this year's Disney trip - and use those spare tickets to generate a second set of prebooked GLFP. Those future-use tickets will be FP generators.

What is an FP Generator again?
All linked tickets are FP generators, of course. However, the acronym GLFP implies that the ticket that generated the FP won't be used for admission on the day the FP will be used. We're referring to future-use tickets as FP generators because you won't be using them for park admission this year -- only for the purpose of generating an extra set of prebooked FP. You'll use them for park admission on some undesignated date in the future. (AP vouchers, for example, are good until the year 2030.)

 

[hayesdvc]

I have linked my MNSSHP tickets to a phantom MDE. I have an ADR for the dessert party linked to my main MDE.

Does anyone see any issues?

 

[Candycane83]

Like a lot of other people here, struggling to understand... I have a split stay in December and a toddler. So I will receive 2 magic bands by the time my second stay starts (from Canada). These magic bands will essentially be tied to my toddler who really does not have an MDE account. Will I need to create 2 phantom MDE accounts (for the 2 extra magic bands) to be able to book SDFPs? Or is that for viewing purpose only? In essence, if I book the SDFP and take screenshots, will I be ok?

Also, can I book 3 SDFPs on each MB? Then when finished using them, book the 4th? Sorry for the numerous questions, just trying to figure out how useful this would be...