Sateroom attendant

[mjkacmom]

And yet, there are servers and bartenders in hundreds of countries around the world who work without relying on tips—often providing much better service than what you typically find at an average American establishment these days. The market would need to adjust wages to attract the right talent, but it works just fine.

As for attentiveness, having traveled extensively, I’ve never noticed a significant difference in the level of attention provided, except for the occasional American server who overcompensates to the point that it detracts from the experience. I doubt many would miss that kind of service. Overall, service in the U.S. is often subpar, even with tipping—an outdated system that has now crept into more and more routine interactions without improving anything.

I disagree, at least where I am waitstaff is very good. It’s a high COL area and these jobs are competitive.

 

[DVCSunDevil]

You are cruising with people from all over, the whole point of cruising is to go all over (unless you're doing a Mississippi river cruise). The point is to follow the protocol for the cruise line you booked whatever that may be; it applies to all on board irrespective of one's nationality. That said when I was looking at all the lines that do include tips in the fare I did see one (and I'm blanking on which) that included it strictly for UK residents which is them considering the customary norms there.

Following what the cruise line has is the thing people agree with and why the discussion about the removal of tips can put people off. BUT it's not about saying what you essentially said which is "this is 'Merica and in 'Merica we do this". It's not about saying "this is America and we're not Europe" it's about saying X cruise line has Y policy which normally is in the form of automatic gratuities but is also in the form of a specified suggested tip (sometimes based on room category).

I more or less agreed with you until you started making it about "it's America/U.S. not some other country" if your idea of cruising is that count me as grateful to not share in that opinion.

LOL. Now I know you are just trolling/gaslighting. I never made it about "this is 'Merica". Others started commenting about the difference in cultures when comparing tipping in America vs. other countries, and my point was that you have to follow the customs of the place you are visiting. That would extend to the cruise lines like DCL that use the tipping system that aligns with how tipping is done in America.

 

[Flossbolna]

LOL. Now I know you are just trolling/gaslighting. I never made it "this is 'Merica". Others started commenting about the difference in cultures when comparing tipping in America vs. other countries, and my point was that you have to follow the customs of the place you are visiting. That would extend to the cruise lines like DCL that use the tipping system that aligns with how tipping is done in America.

The funniest thing is that you wrote above: The point is to follow the protocol for the cruise line you booked whatever that may be; it applies to all on board irrespective of one's nationality. Yet, you are the one who started this thread by openly saying you stiffed your stateroom attendant EVEN THOUGH DCL'S PROTOCOL IS TO TIP THEM. Who knows if your story about stiffing the stateroom attendant is even true, but it stinks if that story IS true because you now acknowledge that not tipping is/was wrong because of the DCL protocol...yet you stiffed them anyway. Yuck.

The person you are quoting is not the OP of the thread.

 

[DVCSunDevil]

The person you are quoting is not the OP of the thread.

Correct. I got them confused. I just took out the second paragraph.

 

[Grandma4ever]

All they get is the tips. DCL expects that they will meet everyone's needs. The Cast members pride themselves on going above and beyond with the service they provide. You refusing to tip is very selfish. So, you don't want them in your room OK but do not penalize them for that. They have so many rooms assigned and no way to make up the lost income if you do not tip. If you can't at least give the minimum tip, please don't cruise.

I will continue to give more because I believe they earn every dime.

 

[Mags2002]

All they get is the tips. DCL expects that they will meet everyone's needs. The Cast members pride themselves on going above and beyond with the service they provide. You refusing to tip is very selfish. So, you don't want them in your room OK but do not penalize them for that. They have so many rooms assigned and no way to make up the lost income if you do not tip. If you can't at least give the minimum tip, please don't cruise.

I will continue to give more because I believe they earn every dime.

The do receive a very minimal wage from Disney, so tips are on top of that. But the money they get is NOT great at all