Rush Limbaugh Arrested.

[Charade]

Wow, you still can't refute that Rush is a hypocrite. Wow.

I'm not saying he or isn't because I don't know if those statements (11 years ago) were before he was addicted to the pain killers. If he was and said those things, then he is a hypocrite. If not, then he isn't.

But as usual, the left will use anything they can to tear down someone like him and at the same time ridicule and character assassinate his listeners.

And before you go off on a rant that the right does that, we aren't talking about them, the topic is Rush.

 

[Charade]

Indeed? Well I think Rush is so vile, one could never fall asleep.
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Rush, vile? Oh dear. You need to listen to the likes of Randi Rhodes and some of the other "left wing" radio show hosts. There's one guy, I think Mike Papantonio is his name. Whoa, he's just as bad as Michael Savage.

 

[DawnCt1]

He lied to the doctors. He lied to his wife. He lied to his brother. He lied to his business partners. He lied to his audience. He lied to himself. The facts are clear. He is a drug addict. He is a liar. He is not trustworthy. He is a hypocrite. He caused his own hearing loss due to his long term drug abuse.

Let's see if the state can turn him around. Obviously, he can't control his drug habit.

Drug addicts lie. Its the nature of drug addiction while they are addicted. To assume that "he can't control" his drug habit is an assumption. He successfully completed inpatient drug rehabilitation and there is no data to support your assumption that he hasn't remained clean and sober. I don't think that the "state" will exert as much influence as his concern that he would be jeopardizing an incredibly successful career.

 

[TCPluto]

...What a joke...you can't make this stuff up!!

Yes you can. 90% of what the left says is either made up or twisted into a pretzel to seem to make their point, taken out of context, etc. We get the picture.

 

[chobie]

I'm not saying he or isn't because I don't know if those statements (11 years ago) were before he was addicted to the pain killers. If he was and said those things, then he is a hypocrite. If not, then he isn't.

But as usual, the left will use anything they can to tear down someone like him and at the same time ridicule and character assassinate his listeners.

And before you go off on a rant that the right does that, we aren't talking about them, the topic is Rush.

Yes, we agree then. This is about Rush and his hypocracy. But, if you and others are going to use liberals pointing out this one example of hypocracy to say we are intolerant and have no compassion for people struggling with addiction, then we will point out that its actaully the right who is know for being uncompassionate toward people and using their problems to tear them down. And in fact, being hateful and punitive to people struggling with addiction is exactly what Rush did.

And as for the statute of limitations on past acts, let me point out how often the topic of Monica Lewinsky comes up on Dis threads about Bush and his cronies.

 

[TCPluto]

...let me point out how often the topic of Monica Lewinsky comes up on Dis threads about Bush and his cronies.

It was slick Willie who took liberties with intern Monica, not President Bush. I don't think spiller Bill is a Bush cronie...

 

[chobie]

It was slick Willie who took liberties with intern Monica, not President Bush. I don't think spiller Bill is a Bush cronie...

Um, the comment was about the statute of limitations on bringing things up, but again you only quoted a part of my comment, taken out of context, to "twist it around like a pretzel."

Oh, but isn't that what you said the left does?

 

[cardaway]

But as usual, the left will use anything they can to tear down someone like him and at the same time ridicule and character assassinate his listeners.

And before you go off on a rant that the right does that, we aren't talking about them, the topic is Rush.

Then you can leave the left out of it as well. This is about people taking these shock jocks to task. If they are going to call out others about their actions they better be ready to have the tables turned.

 

[cardaway]

He lied to the doctors. He lied to his wife. He lied to his brother. He lied to his business partners. He lied to his audience. He lied to himself. The facts are clear. He is a drug addict. He is a liar. He is not trustworthy. He is a hypocrite. He caused his own hearing loss due to his long term drug abuse.

You have to give him credit. Who else has a fan base willing to turn themselves into fools and hipocrites to defend them like this?

 

[Mugg Mann]

Drug addicts lie. Its the nature of drug addiction while they are addicted. To assume that "he can't control" his drug habit is an assumption. He successfully completed inpatient drug rehabilitation and there is no data to support your assumption that he hasn't remained clean and sober. I don't think that the "state" will exert as much influence as his concern that he would be jeopardizing an incredibly successful career.

At least Dawn finally admits that Rush lied (even if she didn't mean to admit it). Now the next question is how often Rush lied and about what.

 

[LastTycoon]

But as usual, the left will use anything they can to tear down someone like him and at the same time ridicule and character assassinate his listeners.And before you go off on a rant that the right does that, we aren't talking about them, the topic is Rush.

Irony alert! Very few things actually make me LOL on these boards, but this did it. You are absolutely right, the topic is Rush. And when the topic is Rush, redicule, character assasination and tearing people down is completely appropriate since that's how Rush, you know, makes a living. His chickens finally came home to roost.

 

[Zmsksirt]

Drug addicts lie. Its the nature of drug addiction while they are addicted. To assume that "he can't control" his drug habit is an assumption. He successfully completed inpatient drug rehabilitation and there is no data to support your assumption that he hasn't remained clean and sober. I don't think that the "state" will exert as much influence as his concern that he would be jeopardizing an incredibly successful career.

Indeed, his nine year, $285 million contract runs until 2009 so that is a lot of incentive for him to clean up. However, the state will exert a lot of influence over him for the next 18 months. He was allowed to enter a plea of not guilty and if he completes the court ordered program in 18 months, the judge will then accept the plea and rule him not guilty.

During that time he will have to appear in court at least weekly and update the judge on his progress. He will be subject to random drug tests at court, at home and sometimes at work (although they normally limit tests at work as much as possible). He will be required to join AA and complete the 12 step program. He will have to report to his probation officer as well.

Rush's case is being handled by the Fifteenth Judicial Circuit, Palm Beach County Adult Drug Court-Pretrial. This is a treatment based program and if he jumps through all the hoops he'll do fine. If he tries to cheat, they'll catch him and lock him up for a week to teach him a lesson. Then they'll let him try again.

The Florida Drug Court Program realizes that all addicts normally backslide during treatment and they fall back on their drug(s) of choice. They take that into consideration and give the offenders second and third chances to successfully complete treatment.

When Rush announced back in October, 2003 that he was checking himself into a rehab center for 30 days to kick his drug habit, I just shook my head. Sorry, but you just don't kick a long term narcotic drug habit in 30 days! It was nothing but a publicity stunt. Abstaining from drugs in a lockdown facility for 30 days is a piece of cake. Jail inmates do it every day!

As I am sure you know, there is a difference between use and abuse of drugs. Rush fell into the bad habit of self medication and paid a heavy price (he lost his hearing). Wouldn't you think that would be enough to tell Rush to stop? Yet he continued on with his drug habit. Obviously, he's out of control.

The Florida Drug Court Program can help Rush, but only if he truly wants help. Thus far, Rush has only been defiant and unwilling to admit the truth. For example, Rush stated on his radio show back in November, 2003, "...was a drug addict from about 1996, 1995 or whatever, to just five weeks ago."

Yet Rush also says that he became addicted to pain medication after unsuccessful back surgery in 1998. There are no medical records to show that Rush ever had back surgery! Also, have you ever seen Rush on a golf course? I have seen Rush on a golf course (several times) and he exhibits no sign of pain or restriction of movement.

Bottom line is that Rush is a liar!

 

[Charade]

Yes, we agree then. This is about Rush and his hypocracy. But, if you and others are going to use liberals pointing out this one example of hypocracy to say we are intolerant and have no compassion for people struggling with addiction, then we will point out that its actaully the right who is know for being uncompassionate toward people and using their problems to tear them down. And in fact, being hateful and punitive to people struggling with addiction is exactly what Rush did.
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Is it a fact that he was an addict BEFORE he made those comments, 11 years ago? If not, then he's not a hypocrite unless he continued to make those types of comments after he was "outed". But since nobody has produced more recent quotes then I guess we can assume he's had a change of heart. Or just keeping his trap shut about it.

Speaking of change of heart, if he did, where's that wonderful liberal compassion you speak of? Or are only non-hypocrite non-rightwing nutjobs deserving of compassion from liberals?

Your statement that it's the right that's known for being uncompassionate toward people with problems and using them to tear them down is interesting. Are we just talking about drug addicts? If so, can you back that up with some hard facts?

 

[Charade]

Yet Rush also says that he became addicted to pain medication after unsuccessful back surgery in 1998. There are no medical records to show that Rush ever had back surgery! Also, have you ever seen Rush on a golf course? I have seen Rush on a golf course (several times) and he exhibits no sign of pain or restriction of movement.

Bottom line is that Rush is a liar!

So if there was no back surgery, and according to your observations, he appeared to be in no pain, why in the world would anyone want to get addicted to pain pills? Do people without severe chronic pain routinely get addicted to a super strength prescription pain reliever?

 

[Charade]

Then you can leave the left out of it as well. This is about people taking these shock jocks to task. If they are going to call out others about their actions they better be ready to have the tables turned.

Would the left be hammering the likes of Al Franken or Randi Rhodes if the roles were reversed? Of course they wouldn't. They'd be all compassionate and circling the wagons. But as we know, liberals are pretty much ok with drug use so it's not that big of an issue with them. Unless it's someone they hate that's doing it. It doesn't even matter if that person appears to be a hypocrite, that's just more fuel on the fire.

 

[chobie]

So if there was no back surgery, and according to your observations, he appeared to be in no pain, why in the world would anyone want to get addicted to pain pills? Do people without severe chronic pain routinely get addicted to a super strength prescription pain reliever?

To get high. And yes people take oxycotin for recreational purposes. I know some people who are NA for that.

EDA:

No one wants to be addicted to anything. But some people once addicted to one substance will turn to another for a variety of reasons. We don't know what started Rush on the path to addiction, but we do know that he showed no compassion to others who were addicted and has yet to come back and say he was wrong for that. All we "liberals" want is for him to admit that everyone struggling with addiction deserves what he got-- the same breaks, compassion and mutlitple chances before being sent to jail.

 

[yeartolate]

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[yeartolate]

But as we know, liberals are pretty much ok with drug use so it's not that big of an issue with them. Unless it's someone they hate that's doing it.

What a load of crap.

This type of overgeneralization is disgusting and inaccurate.

 

[DawnCt1]

At least Dawn finally admits that Rush lied (even if she didn't mean to admit it). Now the next question is how often Rush lied and about what.

If people chose to lie about their personal life, hold no publilc office and have no direct impact on me, it is their business. Why would you even want to ask a question of "how often Rush lied and about what"? Why do you care so much? His audience and his influence must be tremendously intimidating to you for you to be as obsessed about Rush's personal problems as you seemed to be. Whether he was forthcoming about his personal life doesn't change the fact that he is 99.2% right now, does it?

 

[yeartolate]

Whether he was forthcoming about his personal life doesn't change the fact that he is 99.2% right now, does it?

I am pretty sure that he is 100% to the right. Please don't try to blaim the .8% that is to the left for the illegal narcotic activity.