Rush Limbaugh Arrested.

[Kendra17]

...regarding MARTHA...

With all due respect to Rush, he is incredibly pompous. But he does joke about it and adds some self-effacement. Martha Stewart never does. Also, his pomposity and bizarre self-aggrandizing is the hallmark of the BIG radio personalities. Stern and Imus both do this. But Stern and Imus are comedians and political wannabes, while Rush is the real deal. As he says, he can counter most anyone with half his brain tied behind his back and even on pain killers!

One doesn't have to agree with his politics to see that he has significant influence.

 

[chobie]

You have to put this in a context. A professional public person, known for his strong political views, getting addicted to painkillers as a response to intense physical pain is a very different situation from the heroin addict or alcoholic that kills someone on the highway, or the oxycontin street addict that kills the pharmacist. It's on a different scale, entirely.

It's clear that the left is totally unable to engage Limbaugh and people like him effectively on the issues alone. Rush's drug problem is like a gift from God to the left. Because they can't defeat his arguments intellectually, the left uses this drug issue as the ONLY tool with which they can attempt to successfully undermine Rush. He remains-- even after his drug problem-- the biggest (no pun intended) radio personality in the country. His influence on politics and culture is significant. And, THAT's why you folks are in such a snit. You don't give a dang about this individual's pain or struggles with addiction. You claim to have the market sewn up and cornered on compassion, yet you have none for those who don't tow your line and don't agree with your political views. Folks who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

And neither did Rush give a dang about other people's pain or struggles with addictions and that is why he is a hypocrite. This liberal will feel sorry for him when he retracts and aplogizes for all his unsympathetic condemning of other people struggling with the pain of addiction.

 

[TCPluto]

This liberal will feel sorry for him when...

This will never, ever, happen. You know that.

 

[chobie]

This will never, ever, happen. You know that.

Yes, I would if he would admit he was wrong about his rantings about drug addicts.

EDA:

And when he does do that, you can come back to see if say I feel sorry for him.

 

[eclectics]

And neither did Rush give a dang about other people's pain or struggles with addictions and that is why he is a hypocrite. This liberal will feel sorry for him when he retracts and aplogizes for all his unsympathetic condemning of other people struggling with the pain of addiction.

Drug Addiction is an illness and I feel compassion for anyone suffering from it. As I said before, I know the consequences addiction has. I feel very sad that someone who has been through the recovery process hasn't apologized for his comments or explained his lack of compassion, both pre and post. He is a public figure and he still reaches a very large audience. Not that he is obligated to do so but he could offer so much help for others if he wanted to.

 

[TCPluto]

Yes, I would if he would admit he was wrong about his rantings about drug addicts.

EDA:

And when he does do that, you can come back to see if say I feel sorry for him.

Just curious, why would he even want you, or anyone else for that matter, to feel sorry for him?

 

[Charade]

Fact is most post people take illegal drugs for the same reason people are saying Rush does... pain.

Pain comes in many forms.

In the end it call comes down to who each person is willing to excuse, and like Rush in the past, who you are going to label a criminal and look down on.

I totally disagree that *most* people do drugs to alleviate pain. Including non-physical pain which I presume you were getting at.

Most drug abusers start out just wanting to feel the rush (no pun intended) and it goes downhill from there.

 

[Charade]

Now, now..

Kendra said Liberals = hypocrits and that makes it so.

Finally, you get it.

 

[chobie]

Just curious, why would he even want you, or anyone else for that matter, to feel sorry for him?

Um, I was responding to Kendra's comments that we "liberals don't give a dang about his suffering."


And I pointed out, all we liberals are saying is that he is a hypocrite because he did not give a dang about other peoples' suffereing.

 

[chobie]

Finally, you get it.

Yes, I do get it. Saying that Liberals = hypocrites is something to roll your eyes about.

 

[chobie]

Drug Addiction is an illness and I feel compassion for anyone suffering from it. As I said before, I know the consequences addiction has. I feel very sad that someone who has been through the recovery process hasn't apologized for his comments or explained his lack of compassion, both pre and post. He is a public figure and he still reaches a very large audience. Not that he is obligated to do so but he could offer so much help for others if he wanted to.

Exactly. All Rush has to do was say he was wrong and he would no longer be a hypocrite.

 

[chobie]

Rush Limbaugh on air; 10/5/1995

"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/10/ana03004.html

And from Dictionary.com;

hypocrite

n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold [syn: dissembler, phony, phoney, pretender]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypocrite

I understand your point, but Rush makes no such distinction. Unfortunately, the first four words of your post are factually incorrect.

I didn't want this to ge buried for people just reading the last page and conveniently skipping over the rest.

That is what Rush said. Even if he became a lawbreaking drug addict after these comments, he had ample time to retract those statements and express sympathy and concern for people dealing with addiction. In other words he had years in which he could have showed that he "gave a dang for the suffering of others". He chose not to. That is why he is a hypocrite.

 

[Zmsksirt]

What Rush needs to do is break his drug habit. His 3 previous rehab attempts all failed. Now, with court supervision, he may be forced to succeed this time. He is going to be subject to random urine tests for the next 18 months. If he fails, he goes to jail until the judge decides to give him another chance. Only time will tell. I hope he gets better!

 

[chobie]

What Rush needs to do is break his drug habit. His 3 previous rehab attempts all failed. Now, with court supervision, he may be forced to succeed this time. He is going to be subject to random urine tests for the next 18 months. If he fails, he goes to jail until the judge decides to give him another chance. Only time will tell. I hope he gets better!

Yes. And I hope all the people he showed no sympathy for get better too and get another chance like he did before being sent to jail.

 

[TCPluto]

I didn't want this to ge buried for people just reading the last page and conveniently skipping over the rest.

That is what Rush said. Even if he became a lawbreaking drug addict after these comments, he had ample time to retract those statements and express sympathy and concern for people dealing with addiction. In other words he had years in which he could have showed that he "gave a dang for the suffering of others". He chose not to. That is why he is a hypocrite.

Wow, you had to go back over 11 years for that. I guess that means that theres not a great deal of material to work with. After all, going back 11 years...

 

[chobie]

Wow, you had to go back over 11 years for that. I guess that means that theres not a great deal of material to work with. After all, going back 11 years...

Wow, you still can't refute that Rush is a hypocrite. Wow.

 

[Kendra17]

I personally don't think he's a hypocrite. IF the statements quoted were the only things he's said, I can understand (and still disagree with) your argument. The problem is you have quotes out of context. You don't have entire transcripts. You don't know what he said in the breath (paragraph) before and you don't know what he said in the breath (paragraph) afterwards. You don't know if he meant recreational drug users or if his statements also included those who become addicted to prescribed painkillers. You are using incomplete material to further your beliefs and to substantiate your argument.

Furthermore, we don't know what he's said throughout this past year or so since the initial story broke, because none of us listen to him regularly and none of us are planning to go through entire transcripts.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I personally don't think he's a hypocrite. IF the statements quoted were the only things he's said, I can understand (and still disagree with) your argument. The problem is you have quotes out of context. You don't have entire transcripts. You don't know what he said in the breath (paragraph) before and you don't know what he said in the breath (paragraph) afterwards. You don't know if he meant recreational drug users or if his statements also included those who become addicted to prescribed painkillers. You are using incomplete material to further your beliefs and to substantiate your argument.

Furthermore, we don't know what he's said throughout this past year or so since the initial story broke, because none of us listen to him regularly and none of us are planning to go through entire transcripts.

As a famous Disboard poster once stated...What a joke...you can't make this stuff up!!

 

[Kendra17]

As a famous Disboard poster once stated...What a joke...you can't make this stuff up!!

uh, right. . . you can't. Which is what you're doing when you use quotes out of context.

 

[Zmsksirt]

Rush made the statement, "I am addicted to prescription pain medication." But, as we know, that was only part of the whole truth. He used other people to secure more drugs in excess of those which were legally prescribed to him. He then went "doctor shopping" and got overlapping prescriptions for the same drugs. These prescriptions were for far more in quantity than any reputable doctor would order for his medical condition.

He lied to the doctors. He lied to his wife. He lied to his brother. He lied to his business partners. He lied to his audience. He lied to himself. The facts are clear. He is a drug addict. He is a liar. He is not trustworthy. He is a hypocrite. He caused his own hearing loss due to his long term drug abuse.

Let's see if the state can turn him around. Obviously, he can't control his drug habit.