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Hey Allie,
I don't blame you for backing out. I'll hope for gorgeous weather for your January run!

aldisneygrl - I think backing out of the 5k was wise. With the way you've been feeling lately, I don't think a race - especially a potentially cold/wet race - is the right thing to do now. Focusing on the main goal (January) is the better/smarter way to go about it. :cheer2:

Thanks for the encouraging comments. I felt like I was being a wimp. I just know my DD and she would be miserable. I think I could run it by myself, but she wasn't happy about that option. After being outside tonight, I think the cold would definitely be bad, and along with the rain. :sad2: We have had temps in the mid to upper 70s this week, so it is a shock to the system. :eek:

I am hoping for good Jan. weather too! It would be nice if it will stay warm down in FL during Jan. I sure don't want to have to run in my parka! :lmao: :rotfl2: Especially since I don't have one, since it doesn't get that cold here in AL. ;)

I've just thought- i can join this thread now! did my first 5km earlier in the month and am now heading for 15km minnie marathon, wahoo. Aldisneygirl, sorry you're not doing your run anymore, but can totally sympathise with that as i couldn't persuade my sister to come to the santa dash with me as it was raining. Ha it cleared up aswell. I'm now going to read through this whole thread to see what i can learn from you guys :surfweb:

Welcome!! Glad to have you join us. I ran my first 5k (after only training for two weeks:eek: ) back in September. My DD and I are running the 5K through AK in January.

I actually think I am more worried about DD or me getting sick or our resistance getting lowered than anything.

My knee is feeling much better, but as I said before, I still haven't run on it. Although, I am having strong urges to get out and do it. Especially since we were having SPRING weather down here. Guess it will go away now that we are going back into WINTER weather. :rolleyes1
 
Hey ladies. :goodvibes

Corinna - I think you should wear the warmer sneakers. I think there could be nothing worse than literal cold feet while running. Even if it is "only" a 5k (you're such a mile snob anymore :rolleyes1 ). :rotfl: And as far as a wardrobe malfunction.....not sure what to do about that. If the drawstring pants are warm, go for them. :thumbsup2 Good luck, girl. And I can't wait for the report.


OK, I know I promised photos. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to work a camera with my fleece gloves and wind-blocking mittens and everything. A report, though, that I can do.

I wore the water/windproof shoes tonight and while my feet were still kind of cold, I think it is going to be the better choice for tomorrow. I will bring my regular shoes in the car, though, in case I change my mind at the last minute. I think I am going to go with the drawstring pants - both pairs.

You're right - I do sound like a mileage snob. I am just trying to psych myself up here into thinking it won't be so bad. Austin was saying tonight that they may well shorten the race. Austin's wife's other friend, Amy is talking about running the 2K instead. Depending, we may ALL run the 2K instead. 5K is still a long ways to go on foot, especially in near zero or sub zero conditions. They are predicting 3 degrees for the start time of 9am. Austin says my feet are going to be cold, they just are. Ugh.

OK, I'd better wrap this up and get the laundry finished so I can get some sleep before this adventure. :rolleyes1
 
Hi ladies! I just wanted to let you know that I survived the frigid Jingle Bell Run. The temps were right around zero but there was no wind. We have a birthday party to go to tonight, so I'll write up the full report later tonight or tomorrow. :)
 
We knew the weather was predicted to be cold for Saturday morning. My dad had been planning on making the 4-5 hour drive from South Dakota to run with me at the Jingle Bell Run, but when they started predicting single digits and possibly windy conditions, he finally reconsidered and cancelled his plans to join us. It was disappointing, but ultimately the right decision, I think.

I had not adequately prepared for this race, I'm afraid. With the crazy schedules, snowy weather, additional appointments this month and solo-parent travel to Florida over Thanksgiving, I hadn't run as much as I had planned to, and I hadn't run outside at all in over a month. I had winter gear, I just hadn't gotten out there to test it with running. I wore it to shovel snow one time, and that was it.

I had new shoes with Gore-tek. I had new smartwool socks ($14!!) I had a windblock fleece jacket. I talked to Austin and my dad a few times about what I should wear. It was the best I could manage, somehow. The new stuff worried me a good deal.

Saturday morning, I got up early and put on the more insulated, non drawstring pants (the drawstring ones seemed not warm enough) and the winter running pants I had gotten the day before at the running store for 30% off. I had washed them, though. I put on the wool socks and two long sleeved shirts under my windblock fleece jacket. I got my fleece running gloves and the running mittens to wear over them as well and my blue hat. I rearranged my playlist in my iPod Shuffle so that all my BEST songs were in the front. I put my Garmin on over my jacket with some difficulty. There is a longer band for winter use, but I had a hard time finding the tool you need to change it.

Finally, I was ready to go. My husband and older son were ready to go (they were planning to walk the 2K) and my younger son was....still fast asleep. We finally managed to get him up and brought some breakfast along for him to eat in the car. We were getting going a lot later than I had hoped to. You never know how much trouble there will be parking or how long registration will take or lines for bathrooms even. So I was nervous as we headed out. And of course, on the route that we took, there is a railroad crossing. And of course, there was a train. But it wasn't crossing - it was already across the road, but it wasn't far enough to allow the arms to go back up again. So we sat there for a few minutes. Some people turned around and left. Some people drove around the arms. DH said "Well, I'm not driving around the arms. There's a cop right behind us." The cop drove up on the shoulder and I don't know if he radioed someone, but in a minute, the train started moving again, far enough that we could all proceed.

Well, we finally got there, and had plenty of time to get the kids into their snow gear, get checked in at registration, put jingle bells on our shoes, visit the facilities and decide that two shirts and a jacket was one shirt too many. There was a brass...quartet or quintet playing Christmas Carols I also met up with Austin and then Amy, and her husband Dean arrived as well. Amy goes to nursing school with Austin's wife. At the registration table, they stamped our hands for t-shirt pick up afterward. Except DH who was to distracted to check in, evidently. The stamps were snowmen, but the red ink ran so badly that it looked like a big spider-shaped rash. Eventually, this guy:

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got up to tell us about the program our registration fees were benefitting, some of the safety considerations (run on the left hand side of the road) and that we would sing Jingle Bells to start the run. He said two choruses and then when we got to "Dashing through the snow," we'd all start running. Then we all headed outside in a big clump. The horse-drawn wagon was part of the 2K - it collected people as it drove the course. My family ended up mostly riding on it, though my older son trotted along beside it a good part of the run, or so I was told after the fact.

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Waiting for the race to start:

Austin took this one, though he said he couldn't push the button with his gloves on. Evidently he managed, though. DH and DS are behind me.

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DH took this one. Austin and Amy are behind me, not that you could recognize them with all the gear on. Amy is wearing the black balaclava and hat. Austin's mitten is right behind her.

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So we sang the chorus of Jingle bells, and I thought we were singing Jingle Bells, jingle all the way a second time as he said, but people started into Dashing through the snow, and I was caught a little off guard, but started running and started the Garmin. Amy had said she was probably going to run 10 or 11 minute miles, which is on the faster side of what I usually do, but I thought maybe I could keep up with her. Well, she went out fast - like 8 minute miles? And I was trying to catch her, which was, I decided, a very bad plan, as my lungs were kind of surprised by the temperature and I ended up feeling like I was overexerting too soon in the race. I slowed down. I got passed by Santa. I tried to catch my breath. I readjusted my hat and remembered that I had my headphone in one ear and I just needed to turn the music on. "Love in an Elevator." I ran some more. I pulled off into a sidewalk to adjust the tongue of my shoe which was bunched and bugging me. Gotta fix that. And started up again and thought that I was in big trouble. It was right around zero degrees according to the car. It wasn't windy, but it was quite cold. I kept going. Then there was the first marker. I was kind of expecting it to be marked in miles - all the other runs I have done were marked in miles. This one was kilometers. I realized there was a long way to go.

My sunglasses kept fogging up, probably due to my gaiter and continued breathing. I felt like there was a thin coat of ice on my nose and cheeks and decided I needed to pull that gaiter down or I would continue to form a thicker coat of ice on my skin.

It was a pretty run through a small town. The snow was lovely at times and I thought about taking a picture from time to time, but had mittens on and didn't end up getting the camera out of my pocket. It is NICE to have pockets - a benefit to running in the winter, I guess. I just kept going at my more comfortable pace. At the beginning of the second mile, I felt fairly comfortable - my feet were warm, my legs were warm. I was a little sweaty inside my jacket. I was carrying my sunglasses due to the fogging and freezing. Eventually, I put them inside my jacket. Eventually also, I unzipped my jacket halfway to allow more venting, but I didn't want to freeze. A man passed me and said that I looked "steamy" which was probably about right. I had frost on the outside of my fleece jacket. I could feel it on my eyelashes.

In the last mile, I wanted to walk, but kept talking myself out of it. The music helped. In my lowest moment, Sexyback came on, and I can always run to that. Thank you, Justin Timberlake! And then it was the final stretch! I picked up the pace as much as I could and lumbered on toward the finish line - and there were Austin and Dean and Amy, cheering and waving. Amy commented on my lashes and Dean took a picture of me right after finishing.

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Then I stumbled away to keep that secondary pump going - don't want to pass out, after all. I got back and they were ready to go in. I took another couple minutes and went inside as well. It was a big party in there, with delicious cinnamon rolls, cookies, scones, hot apple cider and bottled water. It was the best post-race food ever! DH and the kids were already inside, living it up. :santa: We also collected our t-shirts, even DH, without his hand stamped. Apparently it is a pretty casual organizational element. :)

So I ran the whole thing in 33:35. It was slower than I had hoped for - I had hoped for 32, but not a lot slower. It was still a PR, and Austin consoled me by saying that the cold weather slows you down, too. :rolleyes1 Thanks, Austin. It was a kind of a fun event, but not as much fun as events in more, uh, temperate temperatures, somehow.

My shoe decision worked out well - I had no blisters and my feet stayed warm the whole time. Austin said his feet were cold, although he had run the course 8 minutes faster than I had. He's asking Santa for Smartwool socks, evidently.

The only issue I had was that I ended up with a chafe from something in one of the pairs of pants on my left hand side. I don't know if it was a section of elastic that was laying wrong or a tag or what, but I'm going to investigate that before I run in the winter gear again.

Oh, and of course, later in the day, the temperature got up to 20 - that would have been so much less miserable. Oh well. It was my second 5K, and I bettered my previous time by almost 5 minutes. I have to be happy about that!
 

wow corinna! That jingle bell 5km sounds amazing, but so very cold. I bet your amazingly proud of yourself- if not you should be. Can't imagine running outside when its that cold, if only these runs could be done in a gym! Sounds like a lovely experience all round.

I managed to run 6km this morning in the gym after warming up on cross trainer. I cooled down on a stationary bike and my legs are feeling better. I'm running at a speed of 9.1km/h (i think 5.65 mph), does this seem slow still? I really dont want to be running the 15km for more than 1 1/2- 1 3/4 hrs.

Hope all the injuries are doing well this weekend :goodvibes
 
Wow Corinna!!! Now I do feel like a wimp. It was a balmy 54 degrees yesterday morning. I should have run. The forecasters were soooooo wrong with the forescast. I still think DD would have been miserable, which would then have made me miserable, so it was still the best choice. IMHO Your eyelashes make me shiver. Glad your shoes worked out well! :thumbsup2 I am very proud of you for doing that in 33 minutes in arctic weather. :cheer2:

Since I finished working on Friday, I am hoping to get back to running this week. Of course winter showed up this morning. :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :headache: I guess I will have to bundle up like you Corinna. We will be in the 40s this week, so it shouldn't be too bad. I'll keep you posted on how I do.
 
YOU GO, CORINNA!!

I already posted on your journal, but I had to say - I'm SO proud of you! :thumbsup2 You are more dedicated than me to run in those conditions.

I hope by now you're toasty warm and resting from your adventures!
 
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wow corinna! That jingle bell 5km sounds amazing, but so very cold. I bet your amazingly proud of yourself- if not you should be. Can't imagine running outside when its that cold, if only these runs could be done in a gym! Sounds like a lovely experience all round.

I managed to run 6km this morning in the gym after warming up on cross trainer. I cooled down on a stationary bike and my legs are feeling better. I'm running at a speed of 9.1km/h (i think 5.65 mph), does this seem slow still? I really dont want to be running the 15km for more than 1 1/2- 1 3/4 hrs.

Hope all the injuries are doing well this weekend :goodvibes

Thanks smileyk8 - I am pretty proud of getting out there even when it wasn't idea. It was kind of a cool experience to be out there with a whole bunch of people who were also just crazy enough to run in that weather.

When you say running in the gym, are you running on a track or a treadmill? If you are doing 5.65 mph on a treadmill, that seems pretty fast to me! I run about that fast out in the world some of the time, but on my treadmill, I am consistently at 4.7, give or take .3.

I ran the 13K with Kate in 1:42 and change, I think. It sounds like you might be a good bit faster than I am, though. Well, many people are. :) Just out of curiosity, why do you not want to be running the 15K for more than that? I'm figuring on running it in under 2 hours, but I'm not sure how much under. Have you looked at this site? It will predict races for you based on past performance. http://www.runningforfitness.org/calc/rp.php It sounds to me like you are doing great, though! :)
 
Wow Corinna!!! Now I do feel like a wimp. It was a balmy 54 degrees yesterday morning. I should have run. The forecasters were soooooo wrong with the forescast. I still think DD would have been miserable, which would then have made me miserable, so it was still the best choice. IMHO Your eyelashes make me shiver. Glad your shoes worked out well! :thumbsup2 I am very proud of you for doing that in 33 minutes in arctic weather. :cheer2:

Since I finished working on Friday, I am hoping to get back to running this week. Of course winter showed up this morning. :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :headache: I guess I will have to bundle up like you Corinna. We will be in the 40s this week, so it shouldn't be too bad. I'll keep you posted on how I do.

Kim, running with a cranky daughter would not have been fun, I agree. Sorry to make you shiver with my eyelashes.

Don't bundle up TOO much. :) They say you should feel kind of chilly the first mile. There is a clothing calculator at http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/whattowear/0,,s6-240-325-330-0-0-0-0-0,00.html that I used. I think it got my clothing right for that day. Except I should have had a less-warm jacket, I think. Not their fault.

KIM - thanks for the note here too. Always nice to hear from you. Actually, my feet are colder right now than they were during the race. :eek: The wool socks did a SUPER job, I have to say. Also, I think a large part of the reason I ran in spite of the weather was peer pressure - Austin and Amy were running anyhow - I didn't want to be the one to fink out! Plus I'd paid $50 to register the whole family - we needed to get those T-shirts and cinnamon rolls! :rotfl:
 
Holy heck, Corinna! Your eyelashes!! That's running dedication right there! :rotfl: I'm sure you could have done a 32 if it wasn't so cold. ;)

I'm still getting on the treadmill when I can and pounding out a couple miles. It's not easy with the holidays! I was in DC this weekend, we leave for Kansas next weekend... (My older sister lives there and we're doing Christmas and my niece's birthday there.) I'm actually hoping to do more running on the road trip - after 6-11 hours in the car with my parents and Russ, I'll need some stress relief. :scared:
 
i regularly get told all runners are crazy and to be honest 3 months ago i would have agreed- i've jumped ship! The reason i don't want to be running longer than 1 3/4hrs because i'm not all that good with heat (as i'm from england it's not usually and issue!) and guess it'll get hot quickly.

Running on a treadmill, we're not lucky enough to have a track! :scared1: Thanks for the reassurance about my speed. Not sure i could run much faster-can i also add thanks for the suggestion of hal higdon plan- it looks great.

Happy running everyone x
 
Kate - great to hear from you and to hear that you are keeping the running in the mix. You've been on the move a lot this year! I appreciate your faith in my ability to do a 32 in normal temps. ;)

smileyk8 - I suppose that heat could be a factor - I'm In Minnesota and we've got both ends of the extremes, for sure. It is hard to predict what the temps will be like that weekend, but the last few years that week has been hot, I guess.

For what it's worth, I think a treadmill is preferable to an indoor track anyhow. They tend to be teeny and have you running around in circles endlessly just to get to a mile. I ran on one once, and have sworn them off. It was 11 laps to get a mile, and I did a couple. SO I went around that turn about 25 times and my knee just had a fit. I'm not sure if it was from the constant turning to the left or if it was because the track was made of (likely) poured concrete with rubberized flooring on top, but it wasn't good. I vastly prefer the TM!

Are you running on a grade at all or do you keep the treadmill flat? There are so many different schools of thought on treadmill running. Well, all running, really! :laughing: As long as we're having fun, right? Is fun the right word?
 
oh i'm very jealous- i want some snow! We don't have great seasons really it's just never actually anything hot or cold. I'm running on an incline of 1.0 most of the time, sometimes 0.5 if i'm findin it hard. What do you think of that? I was told you should never run flat as it wrecks ur knees. i just do as i'm told!!!!
 
temperate sounds nice to me, actually. These extremes are a bit grueling at times!

.5 -1% incline sounds fine to me - I don't actually have strong opinions about it. I have been varying the incline a lot on my runs lately cause I feel like my muscles get fatigued running at the same speed and the same incline or something? So I've been doing a range of 0-3%, 4.3-5.2 MPH I hadn't heard that about knees before. People often talk about the TM being easier because of air resistance. Not at the speed I'm going.
 
I'm baaack...
I do love the holidays, I just wish I had time to enjoy them. I have not run since the day before Thanksgiving! :sad2: just too insanely busy. (and heel pain (although that never stopped me before). The doctor told me that I have "facitis?" then he gave me a big painful shot of Cotosone:sad1: I'm such a baby when it comes to that stuff. He also told me to sleep in a special boot and buy new sneakers with more heel. Since I know I won't get a run in until after the holidays, I can wait on the sneakers.

Are you running on a grade at all or do you keep the treadmill flat? There are so many different schools of thought on treadmill running. Well, all running, really! :laughing: As long as we're having fun, right? Is fun the right word?
The Dr. just informed me to run flat only an incline will just make matters worse

Has anyone else had troubles getting the exercise in with all of the holiday madness?? I'll take any hints or tricks!!
 
Hey there! Glad to see you again, C4M!

Yes, fitting the exercise in among the holiday madness is hard - I think probably the only people managing to stick steadfastly to a program right now are those who are preparing for marathon weekend in January. Though that is just a guess. I'm having a terrible time, for sure. No tips, even. Sorry.

I've had plantar fascitis all along, too. The two or three things that have really helped me have been.....wearing good shoes all the time and, most importantly, I believe, getting my hamstrings stretched out very, very well. I think when the hams are tight (as they get even moreso with running, it seems) they seem to be connected to something in the foot that just flips out. I don't have the scientific knowledge here and end up sounding like an idiot, but I have managed to greatly improve my PF even while running. Though rest helps, too. I won't say it doesn't. :)

Good luck getting through the last of the holiday madness. Glad you're back!
 
Merry Christmas, my running friends! :santa:
 
hope you all had an absolutely magical christmas day! Wishing you a happy, healthy and running mad new year
 
Well, DD and I got out and ran yesterday. My knee felt pretty good. There is a little twinge, but I think that is more from non-use than anything. We did 1.95 miles in 30 min. We leave a week from Wed. I think we will be fine.

It isn't a chipped race, so I think they don't start the 15 minute clock until the last person crosses the Start. So, as long as that isn't us, we should be good.

Wanted to wish you all a very Happy 2008! I'll give you a report on how we did once we get back.
 














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