Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

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While it hasn’t been addressed by Disney yet, I think it would make the most sense to create a priority of admission based on:
1. Disney Resort guests
2. Guests with an ADR in a park
3. APs

I think trying to do date-based tickets like they did in Shanghai would be a disaster at WDW, although I could see having a reservation system for non-resort APs like they did for the GE preview. And I could see Hoppers being temporarily suspended/ Disney asking guests with ticket in their resort package to choose which park they’d like to use on which days to better predict/manage capacity per park.

But I can’t see how they could just make attendance a free-for-all based on date with no consideration for how many people have made their plans in advance.
I think you'll see APs having priority over guests with an ADR. Otherwise you'll see people grabbing an ADR for anywhere just to get in to the park. The no show fee would probably be a small price to pay.
 
Simple: They can’t enter. No exceptions. Not “fair” but operationally and legally the easiest for Disney to manage.
Yup. I have been in conversations about reopening a public facing business and have been advised that you set the guideline for the temp check and make it known as a term and condition of a ticket purchase and then you just turn people away if they are above that guideline OR even if they are demonstrating other symptoms with no fever. That part seems trickier than the temp check but apparently it is something you can stipulate - I doubt most places will, they will likely just stick with the temp checks alone.
 
I am curious to see what happens when someone has a temp check and is told they can't enter. What if someone has a temp above 100.4 for another reason? It could be a bacterial infection (ear infection, UTI, etc), heat exhaustion, rheumatiod arthritis, and the list goes on. It doesn't mean the guest is contagious or has covid. Are they going to be required to disclose their condition to Guest Services to try and get a waiver of some sort? Will they need a doctor's note? It really opens a can of worms.
The Disney Springs FAQ is quite clear on that "Those with temperatures above 100.4 will not be allowed entry; those in their party will not be allowed entry either."

What is causing the temperature does not matter. Sucks but that is what it is. They encourage guests to take their own temps prior to arrival so there are no surprises once there.
 
I am curious to see what happens when someone has a temp check and is told they can't enter. What if someone has a temp above 100.4 for another reason? It could be a bacterial infection (ear infection, UTI, etc), heat exhaustion, rheumatiod arthritis, and the list goes on. It doesn't mean the guest is contagious or has covid. Are they going to be required to disclose their condition to Guest Services to try and get a waiver of some sort? Will they need a doctor's note? It really opens a can of worms.


Why in the world would someone running fever want to be in a theme park?
 

I just see a difference between a scenario of ~95% of the people at least trying to follow the rules and one where 50% of the people not caring/thinking not needed

The lack of consistent and centralized education on mask wearing (and other measures) in U.S. has created very disproportionate knowledge and direction on why, when and how to wear masks. This is going to put the onus on Disney to close the education gap and really inform and direct their guests on procedures. I doubt we'll Disney can drill guests similar to how they are required to for safety before each cruise, but if they did I think it would notcieably increase effectiveness.

I agree that I expect a vast majority of guests to follow the rules for their own safety and others, but I really question that WDW vacation mentally that leads to flash photography on rides, cell phones screens on rides, claiming real estate for events, pushing, running, shoving, cutting in line, and just being all around rude and selfish. All of which gets worse as the stress, crowds and heat increases. Now, I got to WDW and am courteous, and I know everyone here does as well, but we are all familiar with the other guests.

One way or another, there is going to be a steep learning curve at the beginning and a long-range approach to changing habits and culture in the park.
 
I think you'll see APs having priority over guests with an ADR. Otherwise you'll see people grabbing an ADR for anywhere just to get in to the park. The no show fee would probably be a small price to pay.

That's probably more accurate but I imagine with the sheer number of APs they'll need to better manage expectations somehow other than "show up and pray".

Also they can easily reduce the number of available reservation spots for resort rooms and restaurants to manage capacity so think of it this way, if you plan on 30% total capacity for the park and 50% of those spots are for resort guests, 40% APs, and 10% ADRs that don't meet either previous criteria - you're still managing based on a priority of criteria, being "fair" to different circumstances, and capping guests at a set number. It's a win-win in many cases.
 
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I never said they wouldn't enforce it... if only upper level personnel is able to enforce, however, changes things a bit. I always see people smoking in Disney parks, but very rarely see any CM's addressing the issue. My point was a lot of things will get missed.

Difference is, the non smoking is a Disney policy. It’s not part of a union agreement.
 
That's probably more accurate but I imagine with the sheer number of APs they'll need to better manage expectations somehow other than "show up and pray".

Also they can easily reduce the number of available reservation spots for resort rooms and restaurants to manage capacity so think of it this way, if you plan on 30% total capacity for the park and 50% of those spots are for resort guests, 40% APs, and 10% ADRs that don't meet either previous criteria - you're still managing based on a priority of criteria, being "fair" to different circumstances, and capping guests at a set number. It's a win-win in many cases.
Yeah, I think they'll have to go to some sort of reservation system for AP holders while they're in a reduced capacity situation. There are so many locals with APs that there will probably be more demand to get in the parks than there is capacity in the parks for a while.
 
I've been following this thread from the get-go due to planned trip June 19-24. Please don't weigh in on the probability of that as I am well aware- I wanted to try to summarize what I have heard suggested that sounded within the realm of possibility as far as modified experiences and throw in my opinions and reason behind them-granted I have not studied all 600+ pages here, and I am not discussing masks as that to me is a given-

1. No fireworks-probably, it would save money.
2.No parades-probably, very hard to socially distance but not impossible with limited capacity-brings me to--
3.Limited capacity-definitely-I feel resort guests will make reservations for which park they want to attend which day, and also AP. Limiting resort bookings will help limit capacity, and no day guests except AP holders with reservations.
4.Limited resort openings- probably-and to keep people from complaining about not getting "their" resort, I think they will all be deluxe or moderate with possible free upgrades offered. IE, giving all preferred rooms or water/garden views.
5.No pools at resorts-Unlikely-pool grounds are easy to socially distance through seating, and chlorine and sunlight kills it. Lifeguards may warn people to not get close if they see it happening, but pools will be safer than parks IMO-Water parks are another story and will likely stay closed.
6. No Table service-also unlikely as TS restaurants are easier to maintain social distance through seating arrangements. I can see limited quick service open and only ordering through MDE app. I can also see limited table service openings, controlled through ADR's, and offering a couple of choices of substitute restaurants if yours is not going to be open. I think the most popular, like Sci-Fi , will not be closed. I also am sure buffets will not be self serve. Even our local buffets are going the way of ordering from the table or someone serving your plate as you pass by behing the glass.
7. Nighttime shows like Fantasmic or Rivers of Light-Possibly, because easy to maintain social distancing by blocking off seats, sending people to areas for two, three, four, or five or more seat groupings .Also they are outdoors-
8. All parks open-doubtful, I am in the Epcot may be closed category, but it is more likely some experiences at the parks will be closed which will mean fewer CM's needed. I do not believe many people will want to stay in a resort for only two parks. This leads into-
9. Theater shows not open-probably. This makes me sad, as I have seen Tike Birds every time I have been to Disney since 1972. But few are that popular, or at least have long waits which would indicate their popularity. The exception may be outdoor theater shows, like the UP bird show and Beauty and the Beast.
10. Shows involving 3D glasses-Likely open, you can wipe those down with a clorox wipe and they'll be fine.
11. Socially distancing on rides and in lines-definitely. They will have well marked areas in which you are allowed to stand, rides will be disinfected between guests though some sort of fogger. And CM's will be 10 times as diligent to have people escorted from the park who are breaking lines/rules as this is serious stuff here. I think quests will sign off on these things saying they understand they will be not permitted to stay if they break the rules.
12. Temperature checks-probably, as they are doing it with touchless thermometers here in restaurants

I want to stress this is my OPINION-no need to quote my post saying yours is different. I have probably read yours or one like it somewhere a few hundred pages back! We are all just speculating here! I was just trying to consolidate the different scenarios. And no one really knows that much for sure yet! I would like to know if there is a situation I forgot about (except MASKS!)
I appreciate the mods on these boards through these crazy times-
 
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Here is our results (June 5-17 trip)

60+2 - Space Mountain (AM), Peter Pan (AM), Mine Train (PM)
60+3 - Test Track, Mission Space, Land (all AM)
60+4 - Navi, Dinosaur, Safari (all PM, due to dining res)
60+5 - Toy Story Mania (AM), Rock Roll (PM), Slinky (PM)
60+7 - Mine Train (AM), Peter Pan (AM), Space Mountain (PM)
60+8 - Rock Roll, Tower of Terror, Runaway Railway (all AM)
60+9 - Flight of Passage, Kalai, Everest (all AM)
60+10 - Falcon, Toy Story, Tower of Terror (all AM)
60+11 - Mine Train, Peter Pan, Space Mountain (all AM)
If you are June 5, didn't your reservation get cancelled last week?
 
I think you'll see APs having priority over guests with an ADR. Otherwise you'll see people grabbing an ADR for anywhere just to get in to the park. The no show fee would probably be a small price to pay.
I would imagine that it will be
If you are June 5, didn't your reservation get cancelled last week?
Edited, was supposed to say July 5-17 :)
 
While it hasn’t been addressed by Disney yet, I think it would make the most sense to create a priority of admission based on:
1. Disney Resort guests
2. Guests with an ADR in a park
3. APs

I think trying to do date-based tickets like they did in Shanghai would be a disaster at WDW, although I could see having a reservation system for non-resort APs like they did for the GE preview. And I could see Hoppers being temporarily suspended/ Disney asking guests with ticket in their resort package to choose which park they’d like to use on which days to better predict/manage capacity per park.

But I can’t see how they could just make attendance a free-for-all based on date with no consideration for how many people have made their plans in advance.
I actually think the phased closure they have now works. They just have to adjust the numbers to match the reduced capacities. I don’t see a reason to change it.
 
Tomorrow is my 60 day fast pass day, has anyone had any problems booking fast passes in July yet?
Our window opened back on the 7th (5 people). Our first day was fine (MK at night), the next three days were very difficult. I'm still trying to fix day 60+1 at HS. I finally got a headliner for that day, but much later than we want. Just get what you can and try to modify when you have spare time. There are likely to be cancellations happening as you get closer to your trip with FPs becoming available as a result.
 
I was at Disney until 3/4 when things were just getting dicey here and each time I rode FOP someone would shout a variation of “It’s corona!” during the preshow decontamination. Then we would all look at each other uncomfortably. 😂

Reminds me of our experience March 9-14 on the very last Disney Magic cruise before Disney cruise ships shut down. For those who haven't sailed that ship, one of the restaurants is Rapunzel's Royal Table, a movie that takes place in the kingdom of... CORONA. We were on a cruise ship, ordering "Corona Shrimp" off the menu, and listening to a dinner show where we all sing-a-long and celebrate Rapuzel's birthday and Corona...on a CRUISE ship. 😂 You couldn't make that kind of stuff up if you tried.
 
The Disney Springs FAQ is quite clear on that "Those with temperatures above 100.4 will not be allowed entry; those in their party will not be allowed entry either."

What is causing the temperature does not matter. Sucks but that is what it is. They encourage guests to take their own temps prior to arrival so there are no surprises once there.
That's fine for locals and Disney Springs but what about a family of 5 who flies down and one of the children gets an ear infection part way through? They all checked their temp before heading to the airport but now they are stuck. The larger the family the bigger the chance something like this can happen. Maybe it's just another penalty for having a larger family today but it stinks.
 
That's fine for locals and Disney Springs but what about a family of 5 who flies down and one of the children gets an ear infection part way through? They all checked their temp before heading to the airport but now they are stuck. The larger the family the bigger the chance something like this can happen. Maybe it's just another penalty for having a larger family today but it stinks.
The alternative to that is to let someone who is potentially sick in to the park to infect the other guests. I agree it's a rough situation, but that's a risk people must take to go on a Disney vacation while the virus is around.
 
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