Royal Pacific/2.5 Days at USO

MaddieinWonderland

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The Disney portion of my trip report can be found on the appropriate board. This will deal with our time at Universal.

UNIVERSAL PROPERTY:
- We found drainage to be a problem in a lot of places and were traipsing through puddles that were 5" or 6" deep in places.

- Okay, so the boats don't run in thunderstorms, leaving only the option to *walk* through a thunderstorm? Thanks, but no. I saw brief mention of shuttle buses somewhere, but more information was impossible to come by.

PARKING:
-The parking garage was a necessity because Universal has no room. I get that. But, yikes! There has to be a better method of getting people out to their cars than the system they have in place. In particular, getting to the garage during a rainstorm was a nightmare because there's so little cover in Citywalk.

-Why are there moving sidewalks and escalators if Universal isn't going to bother to turn them on?

- We were accosted by people hocking free bags if we submitted a credit card application. Quite tacky and a very poor first impression.

HOTEL:
- Check in went fast at about 10 AM and our room was ready at that time.

- Room was big and clean. The window looked out over a tree. Beyond that, we could make out tiny slivers of the putting green.

- Requested a room an upper floor to avoid pet dander and odors and was placed on the 3rd floor of Tower 2. I'm not sure if this tower allows pets or not, but we were a little unhappy with the location of the room.

- The paths around this hotel, particularly to the boats and to the walkway, are hard to find and bit extravagant in their length. It wasn't convenient at all.

- I wouldn't have been happy here had we paid much more than we did - $150.36 with 3 adults.

- Room service dinner for four was $80! Yikes!

CITYWALK:
- Walking through Citywalk to the parks seems like a big commercial. I prefer that someone try to sell me a high quality product that I want to buy because of its quality than to be overwhelmed with everything and milked for what money I have.

ISLANDS OF ADVENTURE:
- Will Call was helpful in finding out that I transposed some numbers in my PAP Confirmation Code.

- Processing of my pass was quick and painless.

- There was *one* ticket window open at our arrival. The frustration of this was compounded by a family who asked questions about the parks for 15 minutes with complete disregard for the people waiting behind them. I would expect that you should have decided on what admission media to buy before you get in line.

- The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man's effects were all working on Thursday and Sunday. On Monday, the dump truck was not working. It's a better ride than I remember and I only experienced minimal discomfort on Thursday -- probably Mission: SPACE related.

- If a ride closes due to inclement weather, it would be courteous of Universal to make people going into the Express line aware of this. Particularly, at Dueling Dragons we weren't informed of its closure until we walked all the way up into its station.

- How can they maintain Express lines of 15 minute waits or less when Poseidon's Fury runs once an hour?

UNIVERSAL STUDIOS:
- Saw a cockroach in Schwab's while drinking a milkshake. Threw that away promptly and left.

- Traffic flow through the International Food and Film location is terrible and tripled waits to eat lunch.

- Shrek 4D is probably the best 3D theater presentation I've ever seen. The pre-show was a little long, but it was a great overall experience. We waited, with FOTL access, for one show -- about 10 minutes.

- Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blast was fun, but I can't relate too well to the Nicktoons.

- T2:3D was new-to-me and really quite good. I can see why this was considered one of the best theme park attractions when it opened. By the time I saw it, though, I was a little movie-d out.

- Twister was great -- and I'm not usually a fan of special effects extravaganzas. If they hadn't been so assured as to try to include an indoor tornado, this attraction would be top notch.

- Didn't get to see the Ghostbusters show.

- Men in Black: Alien Attack is on par with Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin, but has entirely different highs and lows. Rode twice. We'd hoped for many more rides, but the FOTL access wasn't as efficient as we'd been expecting, and we waited as much as 25 minutes.

- Jaws needs more water, less fire.

That's about it. We spent 2.5 days there, approximately, but we dealt with a lot of rain -- and rides closed because of it. Still, I didn't leave feeling as if I'd missed anything, but rather, feeling like there wasn't enough to occupy my attention. Because I bought the Preferred Annual Pass and because I have friends who live in Florida, I'm likely to return there soon, but it's not because I was astounded by the parks or the hotels.
 
WOW. Based on this trip report alone, I wouldn't be impressed at all. Based on my own experience, I can't say enough about how much fun we had there. Great Hotel, Great Rides, Great Restaurants. Sorry you had such a lousy time.:( Hope your next visit doesn't have as many mishaps. :D
 
Originally posted by TINK61
WOW. Based on this trip report alone, I wouldn't be impressed at all. Based on my own experience, I can't say enough about how much fun we had there. Great Hotel, Great Rides, Great Restaurants. Sorry you had such a lousy time.:( Hope your next visit doesn't have as many mishaps. :D

Well, it's not so much that we had a lousy time as it is that I'm very, very hard to impress. My passion lies in engineering/theater/planning and so I look at everything with a very critical eye. There's a lot that Universal is doing better than it was 10 years ago, but there's still a lot to improve upon. I wasn't really expecting to like Twister as much as I did since it has *no* plot. Most of the other rides are lackluster, in my opinion. Earthquake is dated and doesn't have the strength of story to carry it along, Jimmy Neutron and Back to the Future are simulators that, while they work, don't offer the details and nuance of a real environment. E.T. is nice, but to those who haven't seen the movie, a bit obtuse. IOA's coasters are, well, coasters. I can ride far better coasters at other parks that are much closer to home -- and I can do it without the pretense implicit in a theme park. It's a lot more satisfying to be given things at face value than it is for someone to try to convince me that Hulk or Dueling Dragons really belong in a theme park. Spider-Man is really top-notch and seems more like an anomaly than par for the course.

Again, I had fun, but since I'm so critical of design -- as it is my future profession -- I see that it should be so much better than it is.
 
I am so sorry to hear about your impressions and experience at Universal. I could not have had a more different experience. I LOVE Universal as much if not more than I do Disney. However, we all have different opinions and it is so great that we have options to satisfy all of our desires. I thank you for an HONEST report and hope you have more fun on your next visit.
 

Originally posted by MaddieinWonderland
E.T. is nice, but to those who haven't seen the movie, a bit obtuse.

WHAT!? You mean there are actually people who haven't seen E.T.? LOL:p
 
Originally posted by TINK61
WHAT!? You mean there are actually people who haven't seen E.T.? LOL:p

My brother hasn't and when we rode it, he was just saying, "Huh?" the entire time. The story isn't entirely evident.

Clare - Sorry! I wanted to, but with family in tow, it proved impossible.

SpideyHulk - Well, can you tell me what about the parks you love? Maybe that'll give me a better idea of what people think works at these parks and offer some new perspective. I'll be the first to admit that I'm really picky about my tastes in everything and probably don't represent a fair or balanced view of things. I saw so much that had potential that got botched up -- but, maybe that's not a trend specific to Universal as it also applies to a lot of other new rides -- Mission: SPACE included.
 
What wrong? no Mickey?

Did you forget where you were? I hope the rest of you life is less stressful.

I have been to DW and US/IOA and had a choice of either this coming weekend and did not hesitate to choose Loew's hotels and US over DW.

DW is bloated and out of date, where US/IOA has at least come into the 21ST century.

Sorry life is so bad for you...

Bob:smooth:
 
np Maddie :) You'll just have to see it another time...if you go back (based on your report, I'm not sure you would...:confused: ) or I can send you a video so you know what I droo-I mean talk-about... :p
 
Haha. Sheesh, I really wasn't that miserable! Really! My life is stressful, but that's mostly by choice. Perhaps it's just that my perspective is probably far different from most people who see the parks as magical entertainment. I see them as that, some, but also as a very well-executed craft, and I appreciate the work that goes into creating the product as much as I appreciate the product. It's hard for me to separate the two.

Bob - We were at WDW in the days before our time at Universal Studios. I much prefer many of WDW's attractions to those at USO and don't really consider them to be outdated or technologically inferior. Is Orwell's "1984" outdated and inferior to novels published last week, or is more relevant today than ever before? I think the latter, and that's how I tend to view a lot of the older, classic attractions.

Technology for the sake of technology, or worse, technology at the expense of story is the Achilles heel of USO.

Clare - I'll be back! The sooner, the better, even. There are very few theme or amusement parks that I won't ever return to -- in fact, I can't immediately think of any. There are some that attract me more than others, though. Still, I did buy a Preferred Annual Pass good for two years, and one of my best friends lives in Jacksonville, so I'll be back for sure. In the future, though, I imagine that USO will be the excuse rather than the reason.
 
Originally posted by MaddieinWonderland

Clare - I'll be back! The sooner, the better, even.

Well, you'll have to let me know when you are going...you'll know where to find me :)

But most fans of Disney World and other parks always make the mistake of comparing the parks (I'm not saying you comparing these two though). It's the uniqueness of the park that really entices me (*cough cough*)...seriously!! :rolleyes: :p
 
I can't pinpoint one thing, but I love the rides, the atmosphere and the service, but I have never experienced the things you did. I am sure I would be upset if I did. I for one respect your opinions and am glad that you will give Universal a second chance.

But I do favor the spiderman attraction! :D :D
 
Where do you have to park when staying at RPH? What's the process.


I have to disagree about Hulk and Dueling Dragons. They are top 10 coasters.
 
There's a parking lot in front of the RPR, well you actually have to cross the street, and you can take the water taxies or bus, or walk to the parks. You have to have parking permit issued by the RPR staff to access the parking lot and its $6.00 a day.:D
 
Originally posted by SpideyHulk24
I can't pinpoint one thing, but I love the rides, the atmosphere and the service, but I have never experienced the things you did. I am sure I would be upset if I did. I for one respect your opinions and am glad that you will give Universal a second chance.

But I do favor the spiderman attraction! :D :D

Perhaps it's that I'm not happy with the premise of the park, the Studios in particular, that makes it harder for me to enjoy its attractions. Whereas at the Disney Studios, its most direct competitor, you're made to feel as if you're *in* the movies, Universal's strategy and theme revolves more around being behind the scenes and explains how movie magic is made. They each appeal to different sides of my personality -- the shy, introvert who really wants to be a beautiful starlet and the much more obvious engineering geek. The starlet parts gets its fifteen-minutes of fame, but the engineer is annoyed by the cursory explanations and low-level discussion about what really makes things happen. Don't just put me in an Earthquake, tell me everything about how you made it happen.

Of course, I recognize that would probably bore more people than it excites.

The atmosphere at the Studios is of, well, a Studio. It does that well, but my feeling has never been that a movie studio is a faraway inaccessible place. The concept tries to pander the opportunity to visit a real working movie studio to the masses, but I'm never really satisfied by a facsimile when the real thing exists. By that same token, I admire the detail of Epcot's World Showcase and the care that went into representing each country, but that place among all Disney places is least effective to me.

The service was mixed. I had a great experience with Will Call, albeit brief, and they were very helpful. To counter that, though, an employee tried to give me a slice of pizza that had been handled by another guest and then returned after they decided they didn't want it. When Space Mountain E-stopped with us on the lift, we were given a ride with the lights on and then again with the lights off -- all to maintain the show. When Hulk was closed due to rain, the people on the train were disembarked and shuttled down the exit. Even Busch Gardens offers priority access passes to guests who were on rides when they were shut down due to weather.

atedrow - We stayed at the RPR for only a single night and used Valet Parking during that time.

I guess your view of Hulk and Dueling Dragons is influenced by what other rides you've experienced. Fire Dragon is a great inverted coaster, while Ice Dragon is probably among the worst. Hulk is middle of the road, with some other loopers (if we're debating type-for-type) offering much superior rides. The launch is weak and outclassed by many other rides.

For my money, there's no better roller coaster in the world than Phoenix at Knoebels Grove in Elysburg, PA. I could name a laundry list of other rides that I enjoy more than any of IOA's coasters, though.

TINK - Since we used valet and were there for only a single night, we weren't ever issued a parking permit. We used the parking garage twice -- the first being several days before our stay when we visited the park for half a day. The second was the day we checked out and, admittedly, was stupid. My father didn't believe valet would keep our car parked if we'd checked out, didn't trust the hotel to hold the bags, and otherwise makes very little sense. So, because I had the Annual Pass and get free self-parking the garage, we wasted an hour waiting for the valet, driving to the garage, parking, and then hoofing it back to the big giftshop that is Citywalk.
 
They each appeal to different sides of my personality -- the shy, introvert who really wants to be a beautiful starlet and the much more obvious engineering geek. [/B]


You mean you're SMART and BEAUTIFUL! Unheard of!;)

Maybe there's something to the saying "ignorance is bliss". I don't read too much into the hows and whys of a theme park attaction. I just know what I like and I like what I saw. I guess I'm just a simpleton.

Anyway, give your brain a vacation next time you visit and enjoy it for what it is. Amusement. (But I do have to agree about JAWS. It could use more water and less fire.):D
 
Originally posted by TINK61
You mean you're SMART and BEAUTIFUL! Unheard of!;)

No, no, no. I'm just trying! ;) I'm neither particularly smart nor remotely beautiful.

I think it takes a unique combination of elements to really wow me. Splash Mountain and Tower of Terror are examples you'll see me use again and again because they're the perfect amalgam of story, technology, and thrill, as far as I'm concerned. There's very little that scares me in the amusement park world -- no coaster I won't ride, or other ride I won't try -- so the thrill part of those rides is a fun bonus, but it's not the end all of the experience. They need more meat to them than just a drop, or a launch, or a big gee-whizbang explosion. Splash Mountain is rife with detail and character. You can ride it multiple times, always anticipating the drop, but there's still so much else going on to distract you and occupy you.

Spider-Man, similarly, is detailed and rich in execution, with dimension and detail. It's also technologically amazing and my recent trip reminded me how well the transitions between screen and stage are accomplished. That's truly Universal's gem and should be the model for everything more they do -- not the penultimate attraction.

I guess my brain's always going when I'm riding and I take it all in at once. When I rode Spider-Man, boy did I flinch at the pipe the watery-guy tosses at you, but I also marveled at how well it worked.

Maybe I'm just weird. :)
 
Originally posted by TINK61
WHAT!? You mean there are actually people who haven't seen E.T.? LOL:p
I could not belive it myself till my husband told me he has never seen it. And I have a DVD copy :)
 
Originally posted by Bevv
I could not belive it myself till my husband told me he has never seen it. And I have a DVD copy :)

Well, Bevv: Sit him down in front of the TV with a box of tissues and let him have at it. Then the next time he goes on the ET ride at Universal, it will bring a tear back to his eye. LOL. :D
 














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