DVCnews May direct sales article

[atthebeachclub]

Absolutely they are not enough. My family and I love visiting Disney on our resale points, but the restrictions are insulting. It is as because we are resale buyer we are treated like a 2nd class DVC owner. No way someone would logically compare the cost of direct purchase (with perks) to resale and consider a direct purchase as a better value. They must make the decision to purchase direct on other criteria.

Consider that Disney made their money on the original DVC point sale. Thereby the resale is no consequence to them on those points. But their motive is to disincentivize the resale purchase by implementing all these restrictions. So why do it? They can always ROFR any resale they want, put it back into their inventory and sell it again as direct and make their money again on those same points.

For us to enjoy our Disney vacation we have to ignore the slap in the face, and just enjoy what we are allowed to enjoy on our resale points.

I sort of agree here; I’m also a resale only owner. I don’t feel insulted though. I know I got a better deal than a lot of others.

To sweeten the deal, if it maths out, only one person in the family needs an Annual Pass to get sit down restaurant discount for four people, and you can also get discounts on other purchases. Buy an AP, go in week 1 and week 51 and get two years out use out of it, skip a year, then get another one the next year. Add in a Disney Visa card and you are getting a fair amount of similar/same benefits as direct owners.

 

[Girlstar30]

I sort of agree here; I’m also a resale only owner. I don’t feel insulted though. I know I got a better deal than a lot of others.

To sweeten the deal, if it maths out, only one person in the family needs an Annual Pass to get sit down restaurant discount for four people, and you can also get discounts on other purchases. Buy an AP, go in week 1 and week 51 and get two years out use out of it, skip a year, then get another one the next year. Add in a Disney Visa card and you are getting a fair amount of similar/same benefits as direct owners.

Yep I think everyone can agree they do it on purpose for more $$$ and most would agree that the membership extras do not financially make sense with all the other discounts and work arounds you can do.

Some argue for the sorcerer pass, but I personally would not buy a sorcerer pass under normal circumstances as i dont go to the parks that much to justify the cost. That perk would actually tempt me to spend more money than before as well as some of their other perks (member cruises)

 

[E2ME2]

I sort of agree here; I’m also a resale only owner. I don’t feel insulted though. I know I got a better deal than a lot of others.

To sweeten the deal, if it maths out, only one person in the family needs an Annual Pass to get sit down restaurant discount for four people, and you can also get discounts on other purchases. Buy an AP, go in week 1 and week 51 and get two years out use out of it, skip a year, then get another one the next year. Add in a Disney Visa card and you are getting a fair amount of similar/same benefits as direct owners.

This AP buying strategy worked well, until they suspended the ability to buy APs in 2020/2021.
Fortunately, we were in a "renewal" year, when that occurred.
We have not let our passes lapse since then, as its not worth the risk to us.
We spend 60 - 90 Days per yer in WDW, so the cost per day is still a good deal. (Sorcerers Pass Renewal using DVC Discount)

 

[BayTower2010]

Just got back from 5 days at the Longhouses. While there visited the Tower, nice but both my wife and I said not for us. The Point charts cement the decision. Next year cannot wait to go back to my home resort fully renovated, Bay Lake.

 

[atthebeachclub]

This AP buying strategy worked well, until they suspended the ability to buy APs in 2020/2021.
Fortunately, we were in a "renewal" year, when that occurred.
We have not let our passes lapse since then, as its not worth the risk to us.
We spend 60 - 90 Days per yer in WDW, so the cost per day is still a good deal. (Sorcerers Pass Renewal using DVC Discount)

At 60 + days per year, you are definitely getting your moneys worth!

 

[atthebeachclub]

Yep I think everyone can agree they do it on purpose for more $$$ and most would agree that the membership extras do not financially make sense with all the other discounts and work arounds you can do.

Some argue for the sorcerer pass, but I personally would not buy a sorcerer pass under normal circumstances as i dont go to the parks that much to justify the cost. That perk would actually tempt me to spend more money than before as well as some of their other perks (member cruises)

I like that I can get good value out of Memory Maker with the AP. I always buy it, and it’s expensive when buying with tickets. Sometimes UK tickets include it, so that’s another potential workaround. But I like having it with the pass at a discounted rate.

 

[Girlstar30]

I like that I can get good value out of Memory Maker with the AP. I always buy it, and it’s expensive when buying with tickets. Sometimes UK tickets include it, so that’s another potential workaround. But I like having it with the pass at a discounted rate.

Yes I love that perk as well!

 

[AstroBlasters]

Absolutely I do, that doesn't mean I have to approve of the methods of a major corporation that may, or may not, support globalist objectives.

But as I said in an earlier post, I truly understand Disney overriding need to make money. I just said that maybe they should focus more on enhancing the value of their products rather than taking punitive actions against people that but interest in taking advantage of the product they offer.

You are absolutely entitled to whatever your opinion is.

I have just learned that while on this board I need to consider that not everyone has grown up in the same economic or values system that I have and that it can be beneficial to ask that question instead of just making assumptions.

I felt similar to how you did when I was first in DVC and resale only. All of that melted away when I got 200 direct points and got the DVC-Y. It also gave me a bucket of points that could be used at restricted resorts. I am still overwhelmingly resale, but have found that being a hybrid member is the real sweet spot unless you really live VDH or RIV…. in which case you should probably have mostly direct points.

I think your use of the term “globalist” is potentially telling that this is more about political ideology and not realistic based on modern companies having a fiduciary obligation to maximize profit for shareholders.

 

[BetterInTheWildnerness24]

I am so sorry if DW was in reference to you wife. I thought you were referring to your Disney sales associate. lol

I am in need of a DVC sales rep that you/anyone trusts. I am nervous about being randomly placed with one I do not trust or has terrible communication skills, etc

Omg I’m so glad you clarified lol I was just an observer but I was like “I hope this is a misunderstanding…”

 

[BetterInTheWildnerness24]

I mean if you pay 1st class for a plane ticket and you're all on the same plane, the first class member should get the lay back seat, the airport lounge and the food and drinks, they paid thousands more! Same applies to DVC. They paid more than me, they should get the lounge, free snacks and not me.

Except it can be argued that DVC resale is even better than direct because you actually can get a lot more for less. Think about if someone told you, would you like to stay at the Grand Californian hotel for an extra week this year and every year thereafter for the next 30 years with your family and friends or would you like me to give you some park tickets, some snacks, access to other theme parks instead of disney, and the opportunity to pay for more Disney events! Which is worth more?? Resale has it more than good! I say this as a resale myself.

I like this perspective. I could only afford X number of points direct. So I went resale and got double that amount. I get an extra week a year so I will console myself with that trip when faced with my fomo (which is real, I have major fomo lol)

 

[Girlstar30]

I like this perspective. I could only afford X number of points direct. So I went resale and got double that amount. I get an extra week a year so I will console myself with that trip when faced with my fomo (which is real, I have major fomo lol)

I have major fomo too and as a Disney fan the member events are very appealing to me. Disney is the master of Fomo, but I was literally faced with the choice of Buy DVC direct now at current prices for 150 points and go to Disney World next year or buy SSR for $9,000 cheaper and be able to go to Disney World and Aulani next year. That's when the choice really became clear for me and I thought about things completely differently.

 

[Hypaflex]

Omg I’m so glad you clarified lol I was just an observer but I was like “I hope this is a misunderstanding…”

I know, I feel so embarrassed now. Lol I saw DW and immediately attributed that to DisneyWorld/DisneyWorker. I am now adding "Darling Wife" abbreviation to my permanent list lol

 

[Girlstar30]

I know, I feel so embarrassed now. Lol I saw DW and immediately attributed that to DisneyWorld/DisneyWorker. I am now adding "Darling Wife" abbreviation to my permanent list lol

I thought it meant Disney Wife this whole time lol

 

[VGCgroupie]

I know, I feel so embarrassed now. Lol I saw DW and immediately attributed that to DisneyWorld/DisneyWorker. I am now adding "Darling Wife" abbreviation to my permanent list lol

I sometimes use DH in forums but in my head I say it as “Da Husband” never “Darling Husband”.

 

[atthebeachclub]

You are absolutely entitled to whatever your opinion is.

I have just learned that while on this board I need to consider that not everyone has grown up in the same economic or values system that I have and that it can be beneficial to ask that question instead of just making assumptions.

I felt similar to how you did when I was first in DVC and resale only. All of that melted away when I got 200 direct points and got the DVC-Y. It also gave me a bucket of points that could be used at restricted resorts. I am still overwhelmingly resale, but have found that being a hybrid member is the real sweet spot unless you really live VDH or RIV…. in which case you should probably have mostly direct points.

We know you got direct primarily for the sparkly Aulani wristband!

I like this perspective. I could only afford X number of points direct. So I went resale and got double that amount. I get an extra week a year so I will console myself with that trip when faced with my fomo (which is real, I have major fomo lol)

I have run the math forward and backward. For some people direct will make sense, but for my family it would be SO much harder to break even with direct. Having more points is so nice with DVC too. It gives you a ton more flexibility. I think the value of 150 direct total vs 200+ resale is firmly in resale’s side except in a few circumstances.

 

[MB_01]

Front desk at VGF when I check in with my resale points…

 

[AstroBlasters]

We know you got direct primarily for the sparkly Aulani wristband!

I have run the math forward and backward. For some people direct will make sense, but for my family it would be SO much harder to break even with direct. Having more points is so nice with DVC too. It gives you a ton more flexibility. I think the value of 150 direct total vs 200+ resale is firmly in resale’s side except in a few circumstances.

I equate it to flying economy vs flying economy plus vs flying first class. Everyone is entitled to get on the same airplane and arrive at the same time…. beyond that there are differentiated experiences that some people are willing to pay for and some people are not. Those differences are made clear to resale buyers before they purchase.

I would equate being hybrid to paying for economy plus and then using points/miles to upgrade to first class.

 

[tx911]

I thought it meant Disney Wife this whole time lol

Shhh, we don't talk about our Disney Wives

#DVCMustang
#FeistyDVCchicks

 

[Cfabar1]

I am just wondering if vgf has always been a hot ticket like this alongside the resorts on sale or is this a new trend?

Why are people being drawn to it when pit has incentives and is a monorail resort too?

Is it just because its a beautiful resort and people like it or maybe they're anticipating the nice refurb or whats up?

We have talked in our household ad nauseam and decided we are not interested in Poly tower. We are VGF people through and through. Why:
- Dining Options
- Very walkable to Poly if we want to visit
- Bigger rooms
- Jetted tub
- Overall a kinder point chart
- Less hectic/more relaxed feel -especially in the DVC building
- Closer to MK when walking (which is how we usually do it)
- Just like the feel of the resort more than Poly

Future contracts we acquire are likely to be:
- Wilderness Lodge (coin toss on which way to go is better)

- Vero Beach
OR
- Hilton Head

- Old Key West


We just aren't really Polynesian people...

 

[Cfabar1]

I felt similar to how you did when I was first in DVC and resale only. All of that melted away when I got 200 direct points and got the DVC-Y. It also gave me a bucket of points that could be used at restricted resorts. I am still overwhelmingly resale, but have found that being a hybrid member is the real sweet spot unless you really live VDH or RIV…. in which case you should probably have mostly direct points.

We started resale... thought pencil and paper that was the way to go, and then we thought maybe we would slowly work our way towards direct contracts like some on this board have done and championed...

Then the fire sale of VGF came... We pulled the trigger on 150 points... We are so glad... Really have no desire to buy additional direct points at this time, will likely continue resale only from here on out... but we are so glad to have those direct benefits as silly as we objectively know they are....