Rosie's gone...

Do you really believe you would grieve, if you had a miscarriage, the same as if your son and daughter you held in your arms lost their life? Rubbish.


I cannot be silent with this response. I grieve my stillborn granddaughter every day. It does not matter that I never saw her eyes open although I held her in my arms. One of my friends has a grandson who died at 18. We grieve together. The length of time of a life is not how you quantify grief.

A 'miscarriage' is the loss of a BABY, a LIFE. Go ask a woman who has suffered this loss if she grieves.

My world would be shattered if either of my sons died. But the hole in my heart for my granddaughter is no less of a loss.

I grieve every loss in Iraq. Just yesterday we loss 10 more of our servicemen/women. I don't know how many civilians died (most not by us, but by the 'terrorists' that live among them.) I think our nightly news should spend more time talking about the lives of our soldiers and the losses---and a whole lot less time on Linsey Lohan, Anna Nicole, Donald Trump and Rosie.

Every life is precious...live today as if there were no tomorrow.
 
I cannot be silent with this response. I grieve my stillborn granddaughter every day. It does not matter that I never saw her eyes open although I held her in my arms. One of my friends has a grandson who died at 18. We grieve together. The length of time of a life is not how you quantify grief.

A 'miscarriage' is the loss of a BABY, a LIFE. Go ask a woman who has suffered this loss if she grieves.

My world would be shattered if either of my sons died. But the hole in my heart for my granddaughter is no less of a loss.

I grieve every loss in Iraq. Just yesterday we loss 10 more of our servicemen/women. I don't know how many civilians died (most not by us, but by the 'terrorists' that live among them.) I think our nightly news should spend more time talking about the lives of our soldiers and the losses---and a whole lot less time on Linsey Lohan, Anna Nicole, Donald Trump and Rosie.

Every life is precious...live today as if there were no tomorrow.[/QUOTE

I was referring to an early miscarriage and for the parents. To the mother who felt her baby move in her body the loss would be that much greater, I know because I almost lost my son in utero at 6 months. Placenta previa. There is still no comparison to the fear I felt when he had a stage 4 cancer at 17. I am sorry for your loss.

I also had a miscarriage, I didn't even know I was pregnant when it happened, there was no comparison.
 
I was referring to an early miscarriage and for the parents. To the mother who felt her baby move in her body the loss would be that much greater, I know because I almost lost my son in utero at 6 months. Placenta previa. There is still no comparison to the fear I felt when he had a stage 4 cancer at 17. I am sorry for your loss.

I also had a miscarriage, I didn't even know I was pregnant when it happened, there was no comparison.
I really don't think you can decide what is a greater loss for an individual or the way they should grieve with each type of loss.
 

I took 'The View' off my DVR today. No more 'View' for me. The show is boring :faint:. I gave it two days.
 
I took 'The View' off my DVR today. No more 'View' for me. The show is boring :faint:. I gave it two days.

It was really boring today. I'll give it till Barbara gets a day off and see what happens. I really wish she'd take a vacation or something and have 2 guest hosts instead.
 
It was really boring today. I'll give it till Barbara gets a day off and see what happens. I really wish she'd take a vacation or something and have 2 guest hosts instead.

I'm giving them a chance to replace both Star (I hope with Sherri) and Rosie to see how it will be.
 
:eek: wow, I've seen her talk about it briefly on the show but not in that much detail. I don't know where she gets these ideas! :confused:


Here's where:
Building 7 Collapse

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A video of the collapse of Building 7 ( Local Copy) of the World Trade Center shows the perfect controlled demolition of WTC 7 ( Local Animated Gif). WTC 7 was 2 blocks away from WTC1/2, and was only superficially hit by debris when 1 and 2 collapsed as you can readily see from the starting point of the video. At 5:22 p.m., over six hours after WTC 1 and 2 "collapsed", WTC 7 came down in a free fall.
The Official Story in the press is that diesel fuel reservoirs for backup power generators at Guilliani's Emergency Command Center in the building exploded and brought the resulting fire brought the building down, even though there has never been a case on recordof fire-induced collapse of large fire-protected steel buildings, and that there were only very small fires in progresswhen the building "collapsed." Not to mention that, as any one with the slightest technical background knows, diesel at normal pressure is non-explosive and barely flammable. See our pages Muslims Suspend Physics.
According to the House so-called investigation:
Loss of structural integrity was likely a result of weakening caused by fires on the 5th to 7th floors. The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analysis are needed to resolve this issue.

In other words: no reason.

The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one. The investigation continues of WTC 1 and 2 (there's lots of interest), but the observation that there has never been a fire -induced collapse of large fire-protected steel building holds true for them too. If you could melt fire -protected hardened steel with kerosene, someone should tell the steel companies!

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World Trade Center building 7 was not hit by a plane. It collapsed in its own footprint in free fall time. The fires seen here appear to be very minimal,
and although we do not have an exact time of the photo, it was at least after one building had collapsed.

http://www.911review.org/Wiki/Building7Collapse.shtml
 
The other interesting fact is Building 7 was the CIA & FBI World Headquarters. Every bit of evidence & files on cases being worked on was lost. Bush & Cheney's buddies were being investigated at the time.

Did you know that Bushes brother Marvin was a principal in the Company that was in charge of Security at the World Trade Center, Dulles International & American Airlines.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html
 
:rotfl2: Too funny! I can't believe people actually buy into that stuff she spews!

Two can play at this game. Below is a link to Popular Mechanics website where they debunk Rosie's conspiracy theory.

Popular Mechanics

Enjoy! :thumbsup2
 
:rotfl2: Too funny! I can't believe people actually buy into that stuff she spews!

Two can play at this game. Below is a link to Popular Mechanics website where they debunk Rosie's conspiracy theory.

Popular Mechanics

Enjoy! :thumbsup2

Oh my goodness..the above conspiracys aren't hers, she just questions them. As for the building some engineers say it is impossible for the building to have free fallen, some say it could..so you question. I myself don't know a hill of beans about steel, melting point etc..The one that got my attention (NOTHING TO DO WITH ROSIE) is George Bush's brother, Marvin, being in charge of security at the WTC and Dulles airport. I didn't even know about Marvin, never had heard of him. Heard about Jeb, governor of Fla, heard of Neil, owner of Kuwaiti oil well before Gulf War I, but not Marvin. Is it a coincidence that he was working for a company with Saudi and Kuwaiti interests and securing these places shortly before the attack? I don't know, but it makes my blood run cold. It took me 5 years to even read some of this stuff.I can't even wrap my mind around my government being involved in such a thing, It is too painful, but, again, coincidence? I don't know for sure.
watch loosechange911.com
 
I have no reason to watch, now.

Although I never have watched it.

I was going to watch it once, but I had to answer the phone and forgot.
 
:rotfl2: Too funny! I can't believe people actually buy into that stuff she spews!

Two can play at this game. Below is a link to Popular Mechanics website where they TRY to debunk Rosie's conspiracy theory.

Popular Mechanics

Enjoy! :thumbsup2

I added the 'TRY to' part to your quote. I thought it would be more appropriate. What I find interesting is 'who would be allowed within a birdeyes view of this area'. IMO, NO ONE would be allowed in this area (especially close enough to take a picture like that) BUT the government. I wouldn't trust any pictures that the government 'allowed' to make public. Sounds more like a cover up to me. There seems to be a huge void in the logic of some on this issue. The heat didn't have to be sufficient to melt through the beams, it only had to sufficiently weaken the fasteners. Big difference.
 
I added the 'TRY to' part to your quote. I thought it would be more appropriate. What I find interesting is 'who would be allowed within a birdeyes view of this area'. IMO, NO ONE would be allowed in this area (especially close enough to take a picture like that) BUT the government. I wouldn't trust any pictures that the government 'allowed' to make public. Sounds more like a cover up to me. There seems to be a huge void in the logic of some on this issue. The heat didn't have to be sufficient to melt through the beams, it only had to sufficiently weaken the fasteners. Big difference.

The NY Times debunked this one yesterday too. They didn't try to debunk it-they completely dismissed it.

It always strikes me funny that the same people who think that this administration is the most ignorant and incompetant in the history of time, think that in the short time they were in office, managed to pull off a conspiracy on this level.

They're either incompetant idiots or the smartest people EVER-you can't have it both ways.
 
The NY Times debunked this one yesterday too. They didn't try to debunk it-they completely dismissed it.

It always strikes me funny that the same people who think that this administration is the most ignorant and incompetant in the history of time, think that in the short time they were in office, managed to pull off a conspiracy on this level.

They're either incompetant idiots or the smartest people EVER-you can't have it both ways.


:thumbsup2
 
The NY Times debunked this one yesterday too. They didn't try to debunk it-they completely dismissed it.

It always strikes me funny that the same people who think that this administration is the most ignorant and incompetant in the history of time, think that in the short time they were in office, managed to pull off a conspiracy on this level.

They're either incompetant idiots or the smartest people EVER-you can't have it both ways.


Ignorant or devious? I never thought for a moment this administration didn't know exactly what it was doing when it invaded Iraq. It took a lot of orchestrating to scare the hell out of the American people so they submit to just about anything. red alert red alert, every time things went poorly, when a new scandal was breaking etc. All of a sudden Bush is reelected we don't use those color coded alerts anymore. Bush may be a bit dumb :rolleyes1 but who is really running the country?
 


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