Rosie's gone...

[MAKmom]

Too funny! I can't believe people actually buy into that stuff she spews!

Two can play at this game. Below is a link to Popular Mechanics website where they debunk Rosie's conspiracy theory.

Popular Mechanics

Enjoy!

Did you know that the senior staff of Popular Mechanics was fired/let go/purged shortly before this book was published? Here is one link.

http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm

 

[Fitswimmer]

Ignorant or devious? I never thought for a moment this administration didn't know exactly what it was doing when it invaded Iraq. It took a lot of orchestrating to scare the hell out of the American people so they submit to just about anything. red alert red alert, every time things went poorly, when a new scandal was breaking etc. All of a sudden Bush is reelected we don't use those color coded alerts anymore. Bush may be a bit dumb but who is really running the country?

It also took a rubber stamp Congress. I would hope that it would be just a little bit harder to do something like that today.

I think the administration USED what happened on 9-11 to further their agenda on Iraq-but I just can't look at the people in charge and think that in 8 months they could have pulled off a conspiracy on the level of 9-11. Too complicated and too many people would have had to be in on it and STAY in on it.

 

[MAKmom]

I have to go to work but I also want to add that all the Steel was removed & shipped over seas before the FBI could investigate the crime Scene. The FBI had to steal evidence .

http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm

 

[LakeAriel]

It also took a rubber stamp Congress. I would hope that it would be just a little bit harder to do something like that today.

I think the administration USED what happened on 9-11 to further their agenda on Iraq-but I just can't look at the people in charge and think that in 8 months they could have pulled off a conspiracy on the level of 9-11. Too complicated and too many people would have had to be in on it and STAY in on it.

I don't necessarily disagree. You may say I am an agnostic about this..A conspiracy, however, could have been launched by different "actors" then this administration..or not all may have been involved..or there wasn't one at all. The Marvin thing just sets off alarms as does GWB's expression when he was told we were under attack.

 

[LakeAriel]

I have to go to work but I also want to add that all the Steel was removed & shipped over seas before the FBI could investigate the crime Scene. The FBI had to steal evidence .

http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm

This is surprisingly true also. In a plane wreck the whole thing is reconstructed to the last piece if possible, why they did this escapes me. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[MAKmom]

It also took a rubber stamp Congress. I would hope that it would be just a little bit harder to do something like that today.

I think the administration USED what happened on 9-11 to further their agenda on Iraq-but I just can't look at the people in charge and think that in 8 months they could have pulled off a conspiracy on the level of 9-11. Too complicated and too many people would have had to be in on it and STAY in on it.

It may not have been the "administration"....but somethings are not adding up. The Bin Laden Family being whisked from the country & the FBI forbidden to speak with them is another example.

Can anyone at least see why some of us WONDER if there is more to this?

 

[mickeysgal]

The Bin Laden Family being whisked from the country & the FBI forbidden to speck with them is another example.

Can anyone at least see why some of us WONDER if there is more to this?

I remember that happening and always wondered why.

Yes, MAKmom, I can see why some folks wonder, to this day, if there is more to the story.

 

[beattyfamily]

Did you know that the senior staff of Popular Mechanics was fired/let go/purged shortly before this book was published? Here is one link.

http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm

Did you even read the website? Doubt it.

WHy should I believe anything that comes from such a liberal website like www.rense.com?

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Did you even read the website? Doubt it.

WHy should I believe anything that comes from such a liberal website like www.rense.com?

Another leftist conspiracy theory.

A recent bridge collapse also confirmed that fire can melt steel.

 

[LakeAriel]

Another leftist conspiracy theory.

A recent bridge collapse also confirmed that fire can melt steel.

Actually no that doesn't have anything to do with a building falling into it's own footprint and the temps were not the same, ( we are talking about building 7 which had minor fires and was not hit by a plane) but hey, sometimes I'd rather be you and not wonder. It would be easier and I am not being sarcastic. I mean it.

 

[Fitswimmer]

It may not have been the "administration"....but somethings are not adding up. The Bin Laden Family being whisked from the country & the FBI forbidden to speck with them is another example.

Can anyone at least see why some of us WONDER if there is more to this?

I wondered for a while, but then I read reports from reputable sources that dismissed the conspiracy theories. Good grief, the NY Times is considered one of the most liberal media sources in the country and THEY aren't even buying into it. If you check out their website, you can find the work their reporters did on this stuff. (you may have to register to access archives though) It's too extensive to post here. I'm pretty sure that there were specials on the networks or Discovery channel too-but most of it was done in 2002-2003, so I'm not sure about the specific channels.

 

[aplejax76]

I don't know if anyone has seen this but it is a very interesting documentary on the "Jersey Girls". Some of the widows of 9/11 that pressed hard for the 9/11 comission.

I found it very informative.

Although I do not think that the goverment had a direct hand in 9/11, I wonder why they put so many road blocks up in the investigation.

There are alot of questions that I have about the goverment after watching this film.

This is not a conspiracy film.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481

 

[MAKmom]

Did you even read the website? Doubt it.

WHy should I believe anything that comes from such a liberal website like www.rense.com?

How about this. If you found out the purging of the Senior staff at popular mechanics right before this was published is true...would it change your mind about the book? Would it make you at least stop & think maybe something is not %100 Kosher?

 

[LakeAriel]

I don't know if anyone has seen this but it is a very interesting documentary on the "Jersey Girls". Some of the widows of 9/11 that pressed hard for the 9/11 comission.

I found it very informative.

Although I do not think that the goverment had a direct hand in 9/11, I wonder why they put so many road blocks up in the investigation.

There are alot of questions that I have about the goverment after watching this film.

This is not a conspiracy film.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481

Thanks for sharing this, I am watching it now. It is so very painful returning to that day.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

( we are talking about building 7 which had minor fires and was not hit by a plane)

I wasn't going to post but I just have to question this statement. Why does anyone think that there were minor fires in 7WTC? There was a large amount of fuel in the basement since it was the Emergency Command center for the city.
Also, for those that were not there that day in person, and did not see 7WTC in person, I will verify that at about 3 p.m. the building was leaning. I was on a ferry boat being evacuated from the city. The boat was in the middle of the river waiting for a slip to pull into in Jersey City. Sorry folks but that building was seriously leaning. I spent about 10 years working at the WTC, for the last 2 of it in 7WTC. The buildings were all extremely close to each other. 2 large 100+ story buildings fell down. Doesn't anyone think that it can loosen the footings of any building?? It could be felt in NJ, why wouldn't this damage a building foundation right next to it?

Oh and if my memory serves correctly, the FBI was headquartered in 6WTC, not 7. Do I honestly believe that we know everything that happened that day? No. Do I honestly believe that our federal government orchestrated this attack? Heck no!!
I'm done now. I'll go back to my own memories and let the conspiracy theorists have a field day.

 

[LakeAriel]

I wasn't going to post but I just have to question this statement. Why does anyone think that there were minor fires in 7WTC? There was a large amount of fuel in the basement since it was the Emergency Command center for the city.
Also, for those that were not there that day in person, and did not see 7WTC in person, I will verify that at about 3 p.m. the building was leaning. I was on a ferry boat being evacuated from the city. The boat was in the middle of the river waiting for a slip to pull into in Jersey City. Sorry folks but that building was seriously leaning. I spent about 10 years working at the WTC, for the last 2 of it in 7WTC. The buildings were all extremely close to each other. 2 large 100+ story buildings fell down. Doesn't anyone think that it can loosen the footings of any building?? It could be felt in NJ, why wouldn't this damage a building foundation right next to it?

Oh and if my memory serves correctly, the FBI was headquartered in 6WTC, not 7. Do I honestly believe that we know everything that happened that day? No. Do I honestly believe that our federal government orchestrated this attack? Heck no!!
I'm done now. I'll go back to my own memories and let the conspiracy theorists have a field day.

It fell straight down, which implies a pulled demolition which was reported by many at the time. It would have been a wise decision to bring it down in a controlled situation. The curiousity is why the story changed. What was housed in WTC7 is well known.

 

[aplejax76]

Oh and if my memory serves correctly, the FBI was headquartered in 6WTC, not 7. Do I honestly believe that we know everything that happened that day? No. Do I honestly believe that our federal government orchestrated this attack? Heck no!!
I'm done now. I'll go back to my own memories and let the conspiracy theorists have a field day.

I do not think that the goverment orchestrated 9/11. What I do find suspect is the BUSH family.



1. I have a hard time with how Pres. Bush didn't want a 9/11 commission.

2. If there was no immediate threat, why was Ashcroft on a charter plane leading up to the attacks?

3.Why were high ups advised not to fly that day?

The list of questions go on and on.......

I don't think they were the ones who did it. I want to know why they have so much to hide.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I do not think that the goverment orchestrated 9/11. What I do find suspect is the BUSH family.



1. I have a hard time with how Pres. Bush didn't want a 9/11 commission.

2. If there was no immediate threat, why was Ashcroft on a charter plane leading up to the attacks?

3.Why were high ups advised not to fly that day?

The list of questions go on and on.......

I don't think they were the ones who did it. I want to know why they have so much to hide.

So what do you suspect the BUSH family did???

I guess I can't forget that this is a Rosie thead.

 

[bjgrazi]

It fell straight down, which implies a pulled demolition which was reported by many at the time. It would have been a wise decision to bring it down in a controlled situation. The curiousity is why the story changed. What was housed in WTC7 is well known.

What was housed in WTC7 that was so well known and needed to be brought down?

At the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq. ft. (64% of the building) including floors 28–45.[14][6] Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft).[14] Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft), and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft).[14] The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management, NAIC Securities, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group, Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.[14] The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared floor #25 with the IRS.[6] Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as well as the bottom 6 floors and part of floor #7.

 

[LakeAriel]

What was housed in WTC7 that was so well known and needed to be brought down?

At the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq. ft. (64% of the building) including floors 28–45.[14][6] Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft).[14] Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft), and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft).[14] The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management, NAIC Securities, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group, Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.[14] The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared floor #25 with the IRS.[6] Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as well as the bottom 6 floors and part of floor #7.

You answered the question yourself. I didn't say what was in the building was why the building needed to be brought down..but to avoid it crashing down..However now that you mention it..