Room Capacity

[cgerdon02]

Is it possible to book a room at Hard Rock Hotel that can sleep 5 adults for 2 adults and four children (one child is only 1 year old) I know that Disney doesn't count a child under 2 as a room occupant, so I wondered if Universal was the same?

 

[Bluer101]

Is it possible to book a room at Hard Rock Hotel that can sleep 5 adults for 2 adults and four children (one child is only 1 year old) I know that Disney doesn't count a child under 2 as a room occupant, so I wondered if Universal was the same?

Nope, against fire code. Max per room is 5 unless you have 2 rooms or bigger suites that state occupancy.

 

[hermionesnape]

Nope, against fire code. Max per room is 5 unless you have 2 rooms or bigger suites that state occupancy.

I am curious about something to do with babies (under 2). I read on another thread that under 2 doesn't need a park ticket or express pass (since they can't ride anything and will always need to do child swap on rides). Is that correct?

If that is the case how would the hotel know a baby is in the room unless you tell them?

 

[Bluer101]

I am curious about something to do with babies (under 2). I read on another thread that under 2 doesn't need a park ticket or express pass (since they can't ride anything and will always need to do child swap on rides). Is that correct? If that is the case how would the hotel know a baby is in the room unless you tell them?

Yep under 2 does not need a ticket or express pass.

But the baby is a human being and us against fire code. A child is from 0-17 years of age. This is a hotel policy, fire code, and not the parks.

 

[macraven]

I am curious about something to do with babies (under 2). I read on another thread that under 2 doesn't need a park ticket or express pass (since they can't ride anything and will always need to do child swap on rides). Is that correct?

If that is the case how would the hotel know a baby is in the room unless you tell them?

universal does not run the hotels.
the fire ordinance sets the rules on room occupancy.

you could have a 1 month old baby and it would be counted as another person in the hotel room.

why would anyone ask that?
sneaking an additional person into to a room to avoid booking two rooms, isn't worth it for getting into trouble.

 

[hermionesnape]

I was just curious about the enforcement of the policy. Not suggesting anyone break the rules. I always wondered why a 250/300sq ft (other hotels around orlando) room has the same fire code capacity as a 450sq ft room anyway. Shouldn't the nearly double the square footage allow for more people (or at least an under two baby that needs no extra bedding).

If what op said is true, Disney doesn't view the baby the same as an older child or adult thus not breaking fire code. If that is true then the room capacity policy seems more of a choice then following fire code when it comes to the under 2 children.

 

[Bluer101]

Here is some info:

A family of 5 or larger can be surprisingly expensive to accommodate at a Walt Disney World resort, because Disney’s hotels aren’t geared toward large families! Ironic for a “family” destination, but true.

These are the occupancies of Disney’s standard hotel rooms:

Value resort rooms sleep 4.
Most Moderate resort rooms also sleep 4; the only exception is the Alligator Bayou section of Port Orleans Riverside, where you can get rooms with a trundle bed that will sleep a 5th (small) person.
Many standard rooms at Disney’s Deluxe resorts sleep 5, except Animal Kingdom Lodge (standard rooms sleep 4 max) and Wilderness Lodge (rooms sleep 4 except for Deluxe Rooms, aka Junior Suites, which sleep 5).
One thing to bear in mind: Disney doesn’t count a child under 3 who sleeps in a crib in its room occupancy limits. You can add one baby to the room without additional charge. So if your family includes a baby, you can subtract one person from your count.

We are occasionally asked if Disney is “strict” about room limits. The answer is yes. Disney didn’t invent the limits; they are dictated by the Fire Marshal, based on the square footage of the room and the number of beds. The limits are for your own safety and comfort. (Also, if you sneak in extra people, they will not receive room keys, so they won’t be able to access Extra Magic Hours or charge anything to your room account. People not listed on your room roster also don’t get to use the FREE Magical Express transportation to/from the airport and they cannot be added to any Dining Plan you purchase.)

http://www.mousesavers.com/walt-dis...-questions-about-walt-disney-world/#bigfamily

http://www.themouseforless.com/tripplanning/resorts/wdwroomoccupancy.shtml

 

[hermionesnape]

So most disney deluxe resorts have a 5 person capacity as do deluxe Universal resorts. Difference being Disney understands a small child/baby will not need extra bedding (aka rollaway) and doesn't count them as an occupant.

So at Disney a family of six with one being a child under 3 can save $300+ a night because they can all stay in the same room. Seems, to me, like universal hotels (Loews) could offer the same if they wanted.

This policy of counting a child under 3 toward occupancy just doesn't seem very family friendly to me. I understand that Loews 'claims' it's because of fire code but I don't really believe it since similar size rooms at Disney don't have the same policy about children under 3 years of age counting as a room occupant.

Again not advocating breaking the rules, just questioning the policy.

 

[Bluer101]

So most disney deluxe resorts have a 5 person capacity as do deluxe Universal resorts. Difference being Disney understands a small child/baby will not need extra bedding (aka rollaway) and doesn't count them as an occupant. So at Disney a family of six with one being a child under 3 can save $300+ a night because they can all stay in the same room. Seems, to me, like universal hotels (Loews) could offer the same if they wanted. This policy of counting a child under 3 toward occupancy just doesn't seem very family friendly to me. I understand that Loews 'claims' it's because of fire code but I don't really believe it since similar size rooms at Disney don't have the same policy about children under 3 years of age counting as a room occupant. Again not advocating breaking the rules, just questioning the policy.

Some at Disney have 4 and a crib and 5 and a crib. But most if the 4 and a crib say deluxe room not standard.

Also Loews standard rooms that allow 5 are the 2 queen with the cost of a rollaway. I noticed the Disney have 2 queen and a twin sofa sleeper. So that's 5 plus crib.

Maybe because there is not enough room to have a rollaway and a crib to meet fire code.

Either way it is what it is. They have suites to hold more people or one of the reasons Cabana Bay was built.