ROFR Thread July to Sept 2021 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Jelly563]

They are taking these contracts because they plan on listing VGF extremely high and stretching the stimulus money out of your pockets......

 

[dfan_welcomehomeall_19]

Them reaching up to $127 for AKV is alarming.

Them reaching up to $127 for AKV is alarming.

Wondering if AKV is the next direct price increase. We saw this with SSR and OKW recently

 

[pirate33]

I have a BLT I'm waiting to hear back on any day now that is right around what you offered points wise and price per point. I think both of us will have no issues passing.

Yes, not worried about passing. These contracts are hardly a bargain. Kind of like buying at a convenience store when in a rush.

 

[Chia1974]

Look

Wondering if AKV is the next direct price increase. We saw this with SSR and OKW recently

You could very possibly be right. It looks like BLT is the best deal out there now with $151 passing today, $94 savings over direct. Disney has clearly moved on from the BLT frenzy a few month ago.

 

[Chia1974]

They are taking these contracts because they plan on listing VGF extremely high and stretching the stimulus money out of your pockets......

Over or under? Let’s say $260.
I’m really hoping to buy some but not that price!

 

[MAKP2]

Pleasantly surprised....

LilyJC---$151-$8570-50-BLT-Aug-4/20, 44/21, 50/22- sent 6/24, passed 7/28

Awesome deal. Congrats…

 

[Bearval]

Wondering if AKV is the next direct price increase. We saw this with SSR and OKW recently

You better believe if they have a demand for AKV direct there will be a direct price increase.

 

[sgricewich]

I’m a relationship type person too. That being said, if it were me I wouldn’t wait. Remember this is a just a business transaction to them. They could be nice but aren’t here to make friends. They will just move onto the next buyer due to demand. So far I’ve worked with 4 brokers. All were good. You have to do what is right for you as the customer and get the contract that makes sense for you. Now title companies may be a different story lol. Some better than others

Thank you all for you replies. You helped me make my decision to offer on a contract at another broker, which has since been accepted! Fingers crossed for attempt #2.

 

[Jen0718]

Thank you all for you replies. You helped me make my decision to offer on a contract at another broker, which has since been accepted! Fingers crossed for attempt #2.

Best of luck this time around!

 

[dfan_welcomehomeall_19]

Thank you all for you replies. You helped me make my decision to offer on a contract at another broker, which has since been accepted! Fingers crossed for attempt #2.

Good luck!! Hope that one passes for you!

 

[ajiuo]

Would I be universally hated if I ended up being the one to push AKV in to the 140 range selling price for a loaded contract?

After yesterday I think we are living in a new reality with AKV. I think the 120 days are over.

 

[Rush]

Would I be universally hated if I ended up being the one to push AKV in to the 140 range selling price for a loaded contract?

After yesterday I think we are living in a new reality with AKV. I think the 120 days are over.

AKV has been in the $140’s, at least at one broker for weeks if not months. The other brokers are creeping in that direction now as well. The recent ROFR results are only going to keep pushing it in that direction faster.

Pay what it’s worth to you and don’t worry about what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

 

[ajiuo]

AKV has been in the $140’s, at least at one broker for weeks if not months. The other brokers are creeping in that direction now as well. The recent ROFR results are only going to keep pushing it in that direction faster.

Pay what it’s worth to you and don’t worry about what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I know there are listings that high but I havnt seen anyone post an actual sail for that high.

I know, haha. I’m not going to make my decision based on what people think… my question is one part rhetorical and one part curiosity.

 

[Jen0718]

Would I be universally hated if I ended up being the one to push AKV in to the 140 range selling price for a loaded contract?

After yesterday I think we are living in a new reality with AKV. I think the 120 days are over.

I don’t think you will be universally hated. Maybe uninvited to the next picnic

 

[disneyforsix]

Would I be universally hated if I ended up being the one to push AKV in to the 140 range selling price for a loaded contract?

Honestly, I wouldn't think it was you anyways. It is ROFR that is pushing the prices up. As long as Disney keeps taking the lower priced contracts, they are giving resale buyers no other choice but move higher in the their offers.

 

[cate2]

Agreed! You'll still be saving $40+ a point over direct. Competition for contracts is fierce right now.

 

[Ginamarie]

I know there are listings that high but I havnt seen anyone post an actual sail for that high.

I know, haha. I’m not going to make my decision based on what people think… my question is one part rhetorical and one part curiosity.

Hate? No way.

I don't love people buying into the pricing pushed by the brokers. One contract got taken at $127, so I don't see how that means we need to jump to $140+. At the end of the day it's your money and your decision on how to best use your funds. I wouldn't pay $140 for AKV resale.. and I love AKV.. but I bought it at $106 in December.

 

[Rush]

I know there are listings that high but I havnt seen anyone post an actual sail for that high.

I know, haha. I’m not going to make my decision based on what people think… my question is one part rhetorical and one part curiosity.

Not everyone posts on this forum, but I can tell you a month ago, we found an AKV that was listed at $146, we thought that was nuts, so we offered $121, which was more than reasonable at the time. They countered at $135 as their bottom, we felt at that time $130 was our top. A week later after not finding much else we were willing to go a little higher, by that time others were interested too, they asked for our best offer, we said $142 was our top offer. We didn’t get it, so that one and others we offered on sold in the mid $140’s.

I think $140’s is still high for AKV, and it doesn’t make me happy to see people paying prices that have a real tough time making financial sense, but who am I to say, it’s their money. And one could say we should have taken the initial $135 counter, but in reality we were patient and got a more loaded one at $123, although it was a different UY than our others. Clearly $123 would be tough to pass ROFR based on recent taken numbers, but patience is key. A little luck in ROFR doesn’t hurt either.

 

[Chia1974]

It’s just supply and demand. If someone is willing to pay $X there will be someone selling at $X. Disney will just move up the ROFR prices. $300 for VGC is super high but there are still people want it. I’m new here but I only see prices holding and increase not decrease.

 

[Rush]

It’s just supply and demand. If someone is willing to pay $X there will be someone selling at $X. Disney will just move up the ROFR prices. $300 for VGC is super high but there are still people want it. I’m new here but I only see prices holding and increase not decrease.

In my opinion, the only one that truly is based on supply and demand is VGC, because you can’t get it from Disney, resale is your only option. And I don’t believe anyone is buying VGC to use anywhere but at that resort. Supply is low, demand is super high, so prices are what they are.

The others on the other hand have more to the equation than just supply and demand. The value of the ease of buying direct, the negative value of the restrictions on resale points, the current rack rates, discounts being offered on cash rooms, the price difference of direct vs. resale, and honestly there is a lot of FOMO going on too.

So I think there is much more to it than just supply and demand with many of the WDW resorts. And let’s face it, not everyone buying is as educated as the typical DIS buyer, so they might pay a higher price just because they don’t know any better. They see a listing price, and just assume it’s worth that.