Should there be/is there price inflation for DVC rentals?

[TDK44]

Yes, a bit crazy, but not really when you consider that the rack rate for those reservations might be $35+ per point. There's also a limited supply on these, so for example, if you want to stay at GF the week of Christmas in 2026, you are highly unlikely to be able to get that, even for $25 per point. At a certain point, you will not be able to get it at any price because it will be fully booked and sold out.

These are just rando reservations at WDW next September

 

[TDK44]

That's not been my experience with what I believe is the sponsor of the board. Unless you of course you're talking about only reservations greater than 7 months at certain select properties.

It’s very easy to just go to their website and look — which is what I did for the headline price pp and also for what they have confirmed reservations for.

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

These are just rando reservations at WDW next September

I bet it was Beach Club, which is hard to get regardless of season, so a confirmed reservation there would still be high demand. It's also worth noting that the price per point is likely to go up in seasons when the point chart is lower. Since September is the lowest season, it has the largest natural delta between point cost and rack rate. Rack rates seem to be less seasonally driven, or at least, they don't move by as much as point charts do for September.

 

[Isaiah55.1]

I'm very surprised at the lack of demand for points and the relatively low rental rates. As an owner, I pay $11.35/pt. for the condo fee. I don't have an outstanding loan, but if I did at common terms, I would certainly lose money during the loan payment term to rent for less than $20./pt.. It's not uncommon at OKW, for example, to pay 12 pts./night for a studio. At $20./pt., that's only $240./night for a massive studio, inside WDW with free transportation. All things considered, it's hard not to conclude that demand is soft when $240./night is over market. It's cheaper to rent than own, a circumstance I did not anticipate when I bought in 1993.

 

[Chuck S]

I think the low rental prices are the result of several factors.

Don't forget that international travel has pretty much tanked over the last couple of years, for various reasons, some of it is political, some of it logistical...I know I was surprised how much US domestic airfare is up over last year, and how many fewer convenient flights there are.
Inflation and the cost of living has risen, and wages have not kept up with that. People have less disposable income to use for travel and recreation. They are busy keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table.
Credit card interest has gotten ridiculously high. Home insurance and property taxes seem to be at all time highs.
Disney prices, overall, are up...and some vloggers seem to focus on everything that may be wrong with Disney, instead of the things they get right.
As far as OKW, it isn't what I'd call an "in demand" resort. People want the latest and greatest. OKW is the oldest resort in the system, plus it has only 3 buildings with elevators.
There is a LOT of construction at Disney right now.
Universal has added a new park, people may be taking a break from Disney to go see what's new. We've seen that happen before, when Islands of Adventure opened, and when the Harry Potter attractions opened.
Disney has a "free" dining promotion for kids as part of a package.

All of that means a slump in demand for DVC Rentals.

I don't think all that many of us that purchased in the early 1990s really thought about a rental market for our points. I know I've only rented out points twice, and really didn;t buy more points that we'd use in a normal year. Though now with fewer friends and family that have the $ to travel, or that are having health issues and aren't able to travel, I have a small surplus. But now, for solo trips, I don't feel "guilty" getting a one bedroom unit at OKW just for me!

The good thing about buying in the early 1990s, is we paid a lot less per point for the initial buy in. Imagine paying $200+ per point, adding dues, and living with today's rental prices.

 

[Sandisw]

To add, Disney has really started to come out with promotions that allow people who do deluxe resorts to get other discounts.

For example, the new DCL discount you can get after checking out of a Deluxe Villa.

As of today, DVC points stays don’t count for that so that might play a role in what people choose to do.

 

[JackosinDIS]

To add, Disney has really started to come out with promotions that allow people who do deluxe resorts to get other discounts.

For example, the new DCL discount you can get after checking out of a Deluxe Villa.

As of today, DVC points stays don’t count for that so that might play a role in what people choose to do.

Ive seen mixed information on whether DVC points stays qualify for the DCL discounts or not. Some saying they do, but that you can’t book the cruise with points.

I will try and find out for sure next week after my RIV stay…

 

[Sandisw]

Ive seen mixed information on whether DVC points stays qualify for the DCL discounts or not. Some saying they do, but that you can’t book the cruise with points.

I will try and find out for sure next week after my RIV stay…

I discussed this directly with them this week via the TA line. And the terms we have say it’s not valid for point stays

You will get an email though when you check out if eligible. So, definitely keep us posted!!

 

[ear_poppin]

How do guaranteed weeks compare ? For example has anyone seen Cabins at Fort Wilderness guaranteed week for Halloween and can recall the price ?

 

[CarolynFH]

How do guaranteed weeks compare ? For example has anyone seen Cabins at Fort Wilderness guaranteed week for Halloween and can recall the price ?

I wouldn't expect the rental cost to be different. Owning a FW just means the owner is sure they'll have that week reserved and won't be trying to book it at the request of a potential renter.

 

[VGCgroupie]

It should rise with cash costs. Also at some point dues plus paying the IRS has to make renting worth it. So I would expect rental rates to rise as dues rise but maybe not by as high of a % each year.

 

[Chuck S]

It should rise with cash costs. Also at some point dues plus paying the IRS has to make renting worth it. So I would expect rental rates to rise as dues rise but maybe not by as high of a % each year.

True, but as with any type of transaction, it also depends upon supply and demand. Disney is running their "free" Dining promo, and Disney Visa is also running a pretty good promo, and when people see "Free" dining, even requiring a full price room, it impacts demand for DVC reservations. "Free" is a powerful marketing word.

 

[VGCgroupie]

True, but as with any type of transaction, it also depends upon supply and demand. Disney is running their "free" Dining propme, and Disney Visa is also running a pretty good promo, and when people see "Free" dining, even requiring a full price room, it impacts demand for DVC reservations. "Free" is a powerful marketing word.

True. If I didn’t own DVC I would be paying Disney and not renting when these promos popped up.

Also I wouldn’t be sad to see the rental market die.

 

[juliebee]

How do guaranteed weeks compare ? For example has anyone seen Cabins at Fort Wilderness guaranteed week for Halloween and can recall the price ?

A guaranteed week at CFW for Week 43 (Halloween falls in this week in 2026) costs 176 points for the week. However if a person reserves that same week (if they could get it) on the availability calendar it would be 160 points. So IF a person was renting out their favorite week, I think they should charge for the full point cost they paid. If they only charge $20/pt (which for that demand week would be a bargain, IMO) it would run $3520. I'd personally expect it to be higher for that week.

 

[ehh]

I think the low rental prices are the result of several factors.

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All of that means a slump in demand for DVC Rentals.

I’d argue a handful of the points you raised would lead to increased deal-seeking by consumers, which should increase demand as renting is “a deal” within the realm of Disney.

But that’s not my broader point of my reply.

Without data, I’m not sure I agree with the premise that rental demand is slumping at all. Based on casual observations, it seems like renting is more popular than ever.

I posit supply-side changes are more responsible with the lack of price point growth. In other words: there’s more owners wanting to and capable of renting and it’s keeping the pricing flat despite the increase in demand.

Renting has broader awareness from owners than it had in the past, and is arguably more accessible to owners as well.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some positive correlation between ownership tenure and rate of renting, independent of the market. And high-tenured ownership is likely also growing (cause, you know, time passes and there isn’t a tremendous amount of ownership churn).

 

[VGCgroupie]

I’d argue a handful of the points you raised would lead to increased deal-seeking by consumers, which should increase demand as renting is “a deal” within the realm of Disney.

But that’s not my broader point of my reply.

Without data, I’m not sure I agree with the premise that rental demand is slumping at all. Based on casual observations, it seems like renting is more popular than ever.

I posit supply-side changes are more responsible with the lack of price point growth. In other words: there’s more owners wanting to and capable of renting and it’s keeping the pricing flat despite the increase in demand.

Renting has broader awareness from owners than it had in the past, and is arguably more accessible to owners as well.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some positive correlation between ownership tenure and rate of renting, independent of the market. And high-tenured ownership is likely also growing (cause, you know, time passes and there isn’t a tremendous amount of ownership churn).

Agree with this 100%

 

[Brian Noble]

cause, you know, time passes

 

[VGCgroupie]

Dont remind us.

The beginning of this video is also very fitting, sounded like Tomorrowland.

 

[Girlstar30]

My experience of renting points with the board sponsor has been easy peasy, can rent out points within minutes but thats for $15-$16. Very helpful when you overborrowed some points.

A popular confirmed reservation took me a week to sell. Board sponsor will give you up to $20 pp which is the route I will take if I ever need to sell in the future. Not planning on selling anymore points, but considering a cruise swap in the future. Very happy for the service and fast payment turn around from board sponsor!