Rhianna back with Chris Brown

Calling a victim stupid is just as bad as saying they deserve it.


Showing a person their follies is not saying they "deserve" it. The guy that befriended the tiger, and then it ate him was not very smart, and ignorant at best and plain stupid in the worst scenerio.
 
Well, she was stupid too.

How dare you say that about someone's mother.

It's OK, she was, when she was alive she owned it. Young and without choices at that time.

She just wanted to leave her family home (she later had some repressed memories of abuse from her father come back...not in therapy, just on her own...but everyone else in her family remembered her father as the most wonderful person ever...he died of a massive heart attack when my mom was pregnant with me, decades before those memories came back, so she never really knew what was real and what wasn't) but her father refused. Had a closed door meeting with my father, making arrangements for him to marry my mom. Only that way was she allowed to leave. So they left Florida (where her parents were by then), went to Colorado where his family lived (they'd met in California when both fathers had jobs there) and got married, and moved out to San Francisco. She officially graduated from high school, but left before the ceremony and got her diploma in the mail.

They lived a very poor life, though surrounded by up and coming musicians, for quite some time. Because of those days, she always made sure I had shampoo, because so many communal living roommates would steal hers. She had some great times...met Jimi Hendrix, lived in a big house with Paul Kantner, was friends with "Pigpen" who was an early part of what became the Grateful Dead and hung out with them while they practiced...

When my mom died, I called my dad to tell him. He started crying and told me that he regretted so much. That he could pinpoint when he changed to the night (a party where he forcibly made her leave a party, after they got a phone call that Paul McCartney was going to come over and my mom I guess was too happy about it).

But I was born when she was 25, and my brother when she was 27...my dad wasn't even living with us when my brother was conceived, and he always had a hard time accepting my brother as his (dad's old pictures and brother currently look like the exact same person, but until brother became an adult brother was spitting image of my mom...I always looked just like my dad with a girly layer, so there was no question about me).

She finally divorced him when she could financially do so.

He continued to be awful. The San Jose CA police department was useless. He would go out and schmooze wtih them...all 6'2" of him compared to my bruised 5'2" mom (my stepmom was lucky b/c she was 5'10" and a big Swedish sturdy woman...never had anything but verbal abuse from him and she doesn't care about that)...they'd leave, never arrested him...awful awful.

He finally stopped at some point...she became an advocate for abused women...helped them...was almost an underground railroad for acquaintances trying to leave...


It's really too bad a medical error killed her at 55, when I'd just turned 30, before I got married or had a kid...it's been 9 years next month...


Anyway, many people wouldn't take too well to what you said, but you didn't know she was dead, didn't know she'd figured it out (though the fact that she did divorce him might have been a clue), etc....wouldn't have been pretty with other people, but it's OK with me.


My mom was so glad when I didn't marry at 17. Had a proposal the night before I went off to college, but I said no and left. She was so happy. Her mom had been married at 17, too. She was very glad that I broke that cycle of deciding one's life while still a teen.
 
I'm sorry Bumbershoot. After hearing your story, it was wrong of me to judge your mother, it was just a "in the moment" mouth shot and I hope you forgive me.

Your Mom had no choices, but Rhianna does and her going back IS stupid.
 
bumbershoot,
I am glad your mother found her voice before it was too late. I am sure what she did for other women wanting to leave helped them so much. That would make me very proud of my mom and I think it does you too. It changed people's lives---not just those women but their kids and their kids, and so on.

Many hugs as you are coming up on a sad anniversary.
 

Doesn't surprise me. Most domestic abuse victims tend to go back to their abuser. It's sad though. She's a celebrity and could probably have a million different guys but still goes back. Such a shame...
 
Oh my gosh. I just read an article about this. It said the way he got back together with her was he called to wish her a happy birthday.

"Hello! I recently beat the crap out of you -- but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!"

Nice.

Here's another statement that bothered me.

"While Chris is reflective and saddened about what happened, he is really happy to be with the woman he loves."

1) It bothers me that he keeps saying he's "saddened" by the fact he beat her up. You can be "saddened" when your pet dies. You can be "saddened" when you don't get a job you want. When you beat up a women you should take "RESPONSIBILITY" for your actions. I haven't heard much of that coming from his mouth. I really don't care that he's "saddened."

2) The woman he loves? His behavior isn't love in my book!

I'm sorry, but I just have no sympathy for abusers. None. Nada.
 
She is talented, she is beautiful, she is rich. What on Earth can this man offer her that is worth putting up with getting beat? I don't get it.

Dumb girl. I hope she wises up before it's too late and I pray his heart changes and he does not hurt her again.

I do have to say, as harsh as it sounds, I will not pity her if, excuse me I mean WHEN, he does it again. She isn't some poor single mother with nowhere else to go. She has options, plenty of them. Going back to this jerk is a CHOICE. She may not deserve it, but she should know better. I'll say it again... dumb girl.
 
Brown is also saying that Rhianna threw a telephone at his face full-force and he flipped out on her.

Maybe they are both abusive:confused3
 
Brown is also saying that Rhianna threw a telephone at his face full-force and he flipped out on her.

Maybe they are both abusive:confused3

I was gonna mention this too. Alot of people who have been in contact with Rihanna have said that she is no angel either.
 
I was gonna mention this too. Alot of people who have been in contact with Rihanna have said that she is no angel either.

If somebody threw a phone at my face full-force, they better run...fast:mad: I have never hit anyone in my life, but that may do it.

Who knows what went on that night. Maybe Brown is lying about the phone:confused3
 
I don't get this at all.:confused3

I know that abused women stay for many different reasons, mostly because the abuser has alienated her from her family and friends, and she feels she has no where to go. Rhianna has people surronding her. Her agent, her producers, I am sure she has a bodyguard. Where are these people? How can they let her do this??? I would think they had a stake in her future, and do whatever it takes to prevent this.
 
Walk a mile folks...walk a mile.

I hope Rihanna will be ok, but nary a judgement from me. Until you are there, until you are a victim, you have NO idea.

That said, I was a victim (emotional abuse) and leaving was hard. I had so much support from my family and it was still hard. I left and went back a time or two before I finally hit rock bottom and felt my life was in danger.

Prayers for Rihanna, but no judgement.
 
I don't get this at all.:confused3

I know that abused women stay for many different reasons, mostly because the abuser has alienated her from her family and friends, and she feels she has no where to go. Rhianna has people surronding her. Her agent, her producers, I am sure she has a bodyguard. Where are these people? How can they let her do this??? I would think they had a stake in her future, and do whatever it takes to prevent this.

Her agent, producers have a stake in making her happy. Think about it, what are they going to do, tell her they are no longer going to represent her?

Frankly they have probably seen worse.

If the bodyguards were around they would have stopped him.

I would say she wants to stay "sick". Getting away from him requires you to look at yourself and make changes.
She doesn't want to or can't do that right now.

All we can hope for is that this is the beginning of the end and she gets out alive.

Trying to figure out why people do things will make you insane.
 
Sadly, I saw this coming.:sad2:

I hope she realises what she's into and leaves him soon!
 
I remember Amy Winehouse's parents pleading with people not to buy her records and give her awards while she was intent on killing herself.

Maybe Rihanna's loved ones should appeal to HER fans to send the same message. Her emotional struggles are her own, but parents (and responsible teen fans) need to send a message that if his role model status was erased the moment he beat the crap out of her, hers was erased the moment she went back to him.
 
Walk a mile folks...walk a mile.

I hope Rihanna will be ok, but nary a judgement from me. Until you are there, until you are a victim, you have NO idea.

That said, I was a victim (emotional abuse) and leaving was hard. I had so much support from my family and it was still hard. I left and went back a time or two before I finally hit rock bottom and felt my life was in danger.

Prayers for Rihanna, but no judgement.


I agree. We can't judge cause we are not in her shoes. We don't know the whole story and we surely don't know what Rhianna's thoughts and feelings are. Same here.. prayers for Rihanna, but no judgement.
 
Ha..I was born in March of 1989..and I know better than to beat up on someone, or if someone is beating up on me not to stay with that person. I think if the cops were called he should have been arrested. This is why people in my generation think they can get away with things because "Chris Brown does it and doesnt do time for it". I'm glad I was raised that never to get myself in that predicament, and to get out if it does happen.
 

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