Refill Mugs - Are 2008 still good??

[ShellyLynn3630]

Hey guys, if you want something else to debate theres a great pool-hopping thread on the this board as well..

 

[Suellen]

I think I will go start a bus stop thread.... that should keep everyone busy for a few days.

 

[redrosesix]

Hey guys, if you want something else to debate theres a great pool-hopping thread on the this board as well..

That one is even worse than this one. I'm scared to go back there.

 

[CleveRocks]

Hey guys, if you want something else to debate theres a great pool-hopping thread on the this board as well..

Quick, everyone go over to the Polynesian FAQ thread ... someone asked if they can put Dole Whips into their refillable mugs!!!

 

[minnie61650]

minnie61650, I have quoted my entire post that you quoted an excerpt from a few posts ago. Possibly I have misread the tone of your post but it seems to me that you have nit picked an exchange between myself and MAXIESMOM where we seemed to reach some common ground. I have to shake my head.

Sorry I don't know how to quote multiple posts but your post read:

"The problem was the bar codes at the water parks and machine settings have be changed and matched up each day.

Therefore the guests had to show the mug receipt to get a new bar code each day or the drink dispensers would not refill the mugs.

Would you like to have to stand in line each day to get a new barcode for a resort refill mug?

I think most did not!"

Did I somehow give the impression that I thought they should instute an inefficient system? I mean come on, really...makes one want snap that olive branch they offered in half and walk away.

I apologize. You are correct my explanation did sound pretty rude. I am very sorry.
I was trying to explain why WDW did not follow up and use the same bar code system for the resort refill mugs that they use for the water parks.
The codes are changed every day at the water parks but if they did the same thing for the resort mugs then guests would to need to stand in the resort cafe line every day for new Bar cords.
I did edit the previous post to read as follows:

Edited :<SNIP>
The test run did not work well because
the guests did not like having to stand in line each day to get a new barcode for a resort refill mug.<SNIP>

Again please accept my apologies.

Have fun on your next WDW vacation!

 

[Suellen]

Quick, everyone go over to the Polynesian FAQ thread ... someone asked if they can put Dole Whips into their refillable mugs!!!

Wait a minute! Do they have a Dole Whip machine at the Poly??? If so I think I HAVE to stay there.

 

[TiggerCat]

Obviously I don't work for Disboard and I don't know if they or anyone on this boards has ever owned a license to reproduce Disney property (as I have made very clear). But I presume that most people have not paid up for the licensing rights to reproduce disney property rights (I know I have not). There are alot of photos/trademarks etc on these posts that are not from Disboards. Please read all my posts, I certainly am not passing judgment on anyone. In fact, just the opposite. The only reason the ip laws were brought up was in reponse to some pretty "high on the horse" judgment calls against people's character. My point has been (please read in its entirety) that all of the described activity is per se illegal and nobody should be doing it. However, it gets done and Disney overlooks it. They will police what is most harmful to their busines. I was merely pointing out some hyprocrisy. All of the acts are wrong but seriously get off the soapbox. All of my caps were not made to police people it was to drive home the point that you really should relax about making judgment calls. If you truly want to know the legal statutes from which these derive they are: 17 USC 101 et. seq. & 15 USC 1051 et. seq. (more commonly known as the Copyright Act of 1976 and the Lanham Act). I must say, if you take my all caps as being angry that was not my intention.

I think I understand the point you are trying to make but these statutes really mean nothing without a judgement to use as precedence. In the case of the mugs, until I see Disney pursue this issue and a judge make a ruling in their favour, I will not make a bold statement that someone is "stealing" from Disney. It may be immoral in the eyes of some posters but you cannot say that it is theft in the eyes of the law until someone in a position of authority passes a judgement.

TC.

 

[redrosesix]

Wait a minute! Do they have a Dole Whip machine at the Poly??? If so I think I HAVE to stay there.

Great! Cause I hate frozen cokes! Oh no, I better go get my flame suit on cause I can see the Pop fans coming now!

 

[welovedisney04]

I am laughing at this thread, but I will add my 2 cents

My husband and I just returned from a week at Disney and did not purchase the refillable mugs this time, but we did see mugs from last year and the year before that which we still have at home and wondered why people were using them instead of purchasing new ones.

Also I wanted to comment on the post of the lady receiving the dole bar, my husband and I were celebrating my birthday and our anniversary and we received alot of free stuff that we were not allowed to pay for, so should I have given these back, no I didn't we accepted them and thanked the CM for giving them to us. I thought that it was a very genuine gesture from the CM.

My thoughts......

 

[ShellyLynn3630]

Great! Cause I hate frozen cokes! Oh no, I better go get my flame suit on cause I can see the Pop fans coming now!

Run, Run now!

 

[kmvand1]

I just cannot imagine why someone would travel with old mugs. IMOP if you cannot afford to buy another 12.95 mug then you should rethink spending several thousand on a Disney vacation. Also I would be embarrassed to publicly fill my old mug up when everyone knows you’re not supposed to.

Guess that's the difference between you and me . I don't have a problem doing it. I can afford my Disney vacation every year, thank you very much, but I also like having money to spend on other souveniers other than a different mug for each visit.

 

[redrosesix]

A few of the things I've learned from this thread:

* some people were sold mugs at some resorts a decade ago and were told they could refill them to infinity - I believe them

* some people were sold mugs and don't care whether they are allowed to refill them but will anyway

* somebody thinks you can't copy photopass pictures - the label on my CD says they're copyright free, by the way

* people who aren't even staying at the resorts take drinks from the refill stations

Hard to believe it took 19 pages to get to this. It actually took me 2 days to catch up with all of you.

My only concern about refillable mugs is that they can't be used at other resorts. I truly don't see what difference it makes, although I know that's the rule. Haven't done it, but wished I could -- would have been nice to check out another resort on a coffee break and see what other pastries are available at WDW.

 

[aristocatz]

I have to say that I think the rude ones are those who interrupt strangers vacations by giving them dirty looks.

My parents recently went to WDW. When they arrived, the bought a 2008 mug, that was being sold at their resort. The day after they arrived & bought their mugs, they began selling the new mugs. Of course my parents were not going to buy the updated mugs because they just purchased the 2008 ones the day before & it was during the same vacation. No one troubled the except a grumpy woman who must have harrassed them two times during their trip-first time giving them dirty looks & the second time making rude comments. My parents did nothing wrong & this woman had no business bothering them & accusing them of doing something wrong when they didn't even know the story!

I personally think it's wrong to break any rules at WDW, or any other facility, but I think it's even worse for a guest to harrass another guest without knowing the entire story.

As an aside, I am not a big fan of the resort-wide mugs! It's a nice perk to use them at all the resorts, but I liked the old ones that were special for each hotel. They were fun to collect!

 

[nwhitehead1214]

I think I understand the point you are trying to make but these statutes really mean nothing without a judgement to use as precedence. In the case of the mugs, until I see Disney pursue this issue and a judge make a ruling in their favour, I will not make a bold statement that someone is "stealing" from Disney. It may be immoral in the eyes of some posters but you cannot say that it is theft in the eyes of the law until someone in a position of authority passes a judgement.

TC.

I don't want to go into the large library of caselaw that exists regarding copyright infringement. This is completely off topic and not necessary to this thread. The reason it was brought up is don't call someone a thief unless you know the facts. That person could have been told they can use the mugs and really not a bad person. None of us, including me, want to go down this path. Avatars are currently being litigated in the IP world as we speak. The current topic is whether the site provider is guilty of infringment or just the individuals that post it (it is a napster argument). The site provider's defense is that they allow people to post whatever they want-- it is the individual who is responsible. That is you and me. Their claims rest in the Digital Millium Copyright Act (this is your Napster stuff). Disboards lets you use whatever you want they are not going to police these things that is not their business. It is your choice. You can even upload whatever you wish when you sign up. Disney has been actively litigating in the computer realm but their current fight is with YouTube. Perhaps you may want to read this great article. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/99238/disney-asks-youtube-to-crack-down-on-copyright-misuse.html. Anyhow, my point is don't judge a book by its cover-- perhaps that person did think they could reuse the mug.

 

[A&Bmama]

Again please accept my apologies.

Have fun on your next WDW vacation!

Thanks minnie61650. It can be hard to read tone on a post. I accept the appology.

Thanks for the well wishes, tomorrow is Disney Eve for us Have fun on your next visit too!

 

[jenseib]

It was a pleasant coversation among everyone until you throw around insults like "Get a life." We were all playing nicely here. I've been enjoying the exchange of ideas. YOU seem to be the one who is angry here.

Discussion boards like the DIS exist, in part, to get people together whose opinions differ. If it doesn't matter, as you say, then why are you here in the first place? You, too, are sharing an opinion. You, too, used a part of your life to change someone's mind. Glass houses, as they say.

I have a feeling this little popsicle stand will be closing some time later this morning. Up until this past post, it's been nice having the give and take of ideas in a respectful manner, and I thank everyone on both sides of the issue for playing nicely. I also thank the moderators for allowing this to continue. But now that angry name-calling has started, it's time to retire this thread, in my opinion ... until next month.

Actually I don't think it was nasty statement at all. I find it hysterical how so many people, and you are one of the top posters about it, are getting so upset about what others are doing. Who cares. No need to get all mad about others, life is too short. I haven't been on here all day and come to look and there are SEVERAL pages again on this topic. Does a stupid topic like this really need this much argument?

 

[dizzknee3]

Actually I don't think it was nasty statement at all. I find it hysterical how so many people, and you are one of the top posters about it, are getting so upset about what others are doing. Who cares. No need to get all mad about others, life is too short. I haven't been on here all day and come to look and there are SEVERAL pages again on this topic. Does a stupid topic like this really need this much argument?

You are wrong..I have not gotten any anger from CleveRocks posts. They have been very well thought out and not angry in any way..Have you read his posts? and for the most part, it is not argument..it is debate

 

[CleveRocks]

Actually I don't think it was nasty statement at all. I find it hysterical how so many people, and you are one of the top posters about it, are getting so upset about what others are doing. Who cares. No need to get all mad about others, life is too short. I haven't been on here all day and come to look and there are SEVERAL pages again on this topic. Does a stupid topic like this really need this much argument?

I've actually gone out of my way in my posts to spell out that I'm NOT angry or otherwise emotional about it. I like looking at people's views, sharing my own and then having others respond. It's interesting to me. Please, go back and read a few, and I think you'll conclude that I've explained my interest here. If you can point out anyplace where I'm "mad" about it, I'll surely admit it. This sort of back-and-forth discussion that many of us have had over the past 19 pages might not be the sort of thing folks talk about at The Ugly Duckling, but folks here on the DIS seem to like it just fine.

And thanks for actually reading what I've written, dizzknee!

 

[nwhitehead1214]

* somebody thinks you can't copy photopass pictures - the label on my CD says they're copyright free, by the way.

This is straight from Disney's mouth. This can be found on Disney's Photopass website

Disney's PhotoCD

Disney's PhotoCD comes with a limited copyright release agreement which grants permission to reproduce the photos on the disk for personal use only. The copyright agreement is stored on the CD itself and is located in the main directory. Instructions on how to access this file are located on the back of the CD case. You must present this agreement to your photo retailer when you create prints of your Disney's PhotoPass photos.

Disney's PhotoPass Prints & PhotoCards

All photographs taken by Disney's PhotoPass Photographers and all images from the Disney's Photo Gallery are owned and copyright protected by Disney. Please be aware that it is illegal to reproduce or distribute copyrighted material without the permission of the copyright owner. Accessing pictures or text provided on Web sites does not give you any rights to use them. Only the copyright owner, or the owner's legal agent, can grant permission to copy, distribute, or publicly display protected material.

Disney's PhotoDownloads

Disney's PhotoDownloads come with a limited copyright release agreement which grants permission to reproduce the photo inside the .zip file for personal use only. The copyright agreement is stored inside of the .zip file. You must present this agreement to your photo retailer when you create prints of your Disney's PhotoPass photos.

Disney's PhotoMovie

The photographs in your Disney's PhotoMovie and the bonus slideshow are integrated into video files on the DVD. The DVD does not contain individual image files that can be downloaded to a computer.

DisneyPhotoPass.com

All information, content, software, materials and trademarks contained in the Site are the copyrighted property of Disney Enterprises, Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliated companies and/or third-party licensors and are protected by trademark, copyright and other applicable laws. All trademarks, service marks, trade names and trade dress are proprietary to Disney. No material from the site may be transmitted, distributed or reproduced in any way.

 

[redrosesix]

This is straight from Disney's mouth. This can be found on Disney's Photopass website

Disney's PhotoCD

Disney's PhotoCD comes with a limited copyright release agreement which grants permission to reproduce the photos on the disk for personal use only. The copyright agreement is stored on the CD itself and is located in the main directory. Instructions on how to access this file are located on the back of the CD case. You must present this agreement to your photo retailer when you create prints of your Disney's PhotoPass photos.

Disney's PhotoPass Prints & PhotoCards

All photographs taken by Disney's PhotoPass Photographers and all images from the Disney's Photo Gallery are owned and copyright protected by Disney. Please be aware that it is illegal to reproduce or distribute copyrighted material without the permission of the copyright owner. Accessing pictures or text provided on Web sites does not give you any rights to use them. Only the copyright owner, or the owner's legal agent, can grant permission to copy, distribute, or publicly display protected material.

Disney's PhotoDownloads

Disney's PhotoDownloads come with a limited copyright release agreement which grants permission to reproduce the photo inside the .zip file for personal use only. The copyright agreement is stored inside of the .zip file. You must present this agreement to your photo retailer when you create prints of your Disney's PhotoPass photos.

Disney's PhotoMovie

The photographs in your Disney's PhotoMovie and the bonus slideshow are integrated into video files on the DVD. The DVD does not contain individual image files that can be downloaded to a computer.

DisneyPhotoPass.com

All information, content, software, materials and trademarks contained in the Site are the copyrighted property of Disney Enterprises, Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliated companies and/or third-party licensors and are protected by trademark, copyright and other applicable laws. All trademarks, service marks, trade names and trade dress are proprietary to Disney. No material from the site may be transmitted, distributed or reproduced in any way.

Wow! And I was just talking about the CD -- and BTW, you confirmed what my CD said, since I'm not going to sell pictures of my daughter (or me in a bathing suit coming down the family raft ride at TL)