Rant, Rant, Rant....Warning... Rant

[stm61]

Well, I might get flamed for this, but I don't care. Not all of us CHOSE not to have health insurance. The insurance offered through my job is astronomical. If I were to take it, my son and I wouldn't have a roof over our heads. That's just the way it is. Please realize that not everyone with no insurance is a lazy, good-for-nothing. Some of us DON'T have a choice.

I also agree. Yrs ago I was also a single parent, made about $6 an hr, and my job offered no insurance. I priced several private policy's, the cost per month was more then I made! Medicaid picked up ds, I had no insurance and prayed that if I got hurt it was in a car accident so the car insurance would cover it. I know several people who are still in this situation, picking up insurance at work means they can't pay the rent or buy groceries. Not everyone has relatives who will babysit for free so they can work a second job and never see their kids. The price for daycare is almost as bad as insurance!

 

[nliedel]

They pay for insurance in Canada, taxes up the Ying/Yang

Seriously people have reasons for their choices. You may not agree with them but it really is not your business. Maybe he does not feel entitled. Sometimes it's too embarrassing to say, "I can't afford it" and may just sound better to him to come off as someone who wants to buck or take advantage of the system.

 

[Blondy876]

What is it with people choosing NOT to have health insurance?! I just don't understand it.

I agree that if you are not covered you should have to accept it but I opt out of my companies insurance. I (and our girls) am covered under my dh. If I take the insurance at my company it becomes my primary. And it stinks. The insurance we have with my dh's company is a PPO and its awesome.

 

[dustysky]

I don't get it either. Around here people well go work across the road for an extra .50 an hour and not worry about benefits. One of the girls who worked my sister, her husband wanted to cancel theirs because it was $75 out if each paycheck.

Kae

Yes but for some people that $75.00 is the differance of weather the family eats that week or not

 

[Planogirl]

I agree that if you are not covered you should have to accept it but I opt out of my companies insurance. I (and our girls) am covered under my dh. If I take the insurance at my company it becomes my primary. And it stinks. The insurance we have with my dh's company is a PPO and its awesome.

Same with me. I never take health insurance at a job since I'm covered by my DH. Why change doctors and so on if I don't have to?

 

[dustysky]

I dont agree that making a family live on peanut butter and jelly would be a good priority. I have a HUGE issue with people on welfare ( cash benifits & food stamps ) so please dont think I am defending that lifestyle but I do believe that everyone should be able to have AFFORDABLE health insurance.

What some people consider astronomical is irrelevant. When it comes to health insurance, I don't not believe it should be elective. When my dh was unemployed years ago, we had no health insurance. We were newly married and didn't have a pot to ...well you know... but I made the choice to purchase a catastrophic health insurance policy for us. By making that choice, we ended up cutting way back on other things, like food. We ate a lot of peanut butter sandwiches, pasta and meatless meals but I felt it was important to make sure we could get medical attention if we needed it. I did not want to go on welfare or food stamps. You can always find a way to pay for things that are important....it's just a matter of priorities.
Please don't think I'm slamming you, I am just pointing out that some people have different priorities and mine is being responsible for my family and not expecting others to pay for my care.

There is always a way to make ends meet. I don't care if you have to get a 2nd job, babysit, deliver newspapers etc. It's a matter of what is important to you.

 

[momof2inPA]

I am about to explode from anger. A person I know got hurt at a hobby, not work related. He is mid 20's, unmarried with 2 children. He had the option through work of having health benefits and disablity insurance...chose not to pay his 50% share of health insurance. Now, he needs surgery and is looking for free medical care. His gf is pregnant with 3rd child....still not married. Kids rec'v free care through state. He expects us as tax payers to foot the bill for his thousands of dollars in "free" medical care when the majority of us spend our hard earned money on our health insurance premiums. He should also get neutered while he's in there.
Sorry, but this just gets my goat. Talk about the entitlement mentality. It makes me sick.

What's the point of working hard, being responsible and not expecting others to pay for your problems? I should quit my job, go on welfare and get the best medical care.

Flame away...I really couldn't care less. This is so maddening to me.

If his kids have free health care, he is making a paltry salary and can probably not afford to pay anything but the rent and car it takes to get back and forth to work (maybe the heating bill but I doubt it). If you were a Christian, you would be compelled by your love of Christ and fellow human to feel compassion and want to help, but I guess you are an agnostic or atheist. As a Christian, I would pray (and bet) that most agnostics/atheists and non-Christians would also feel compassion.

Another story-- a friend was working for a company who just stopped paying their employees and robbed them of two weeks of their lives. The company also failed to pay their part of the health insurance for a month and a half without telling the employees. They didn't know until their claims were refused. But of course, it's all the employees' faults with their entitlement mentalities. How dare they expect to be paid for their work and actually expect their agreed upon benefits to continue? Do they think they are just entitled to money from a boss because they show up every day and work?

I'm sure you Republican "entitlement" freaks would say the poor company was robbed blind by the workers who demanded to be paid and wanted some benefits. Actually, one of the owners robbed the other blind. Those are the people that make me sick.

 

[ChrisnSteph]

If his kids have free health care, he is making a paltry salary and can probably not afford to pay anything but the rent and car it takes to get back and forth to work (maybe the heating bill but I doubt it). If you were a Christian, you would be compelled by your love of Christ and fellow human to feel compassion and want to help, but I guess you are an agnostic or atheist. As a Christian, I would pray (and bet) that most agnostics/atheists and non-Christians would also feel compassion.

Another story-- a friend was working for a company who just stopped paying their employees and robbed them of two weeks of their lives. The company also failed to pay their part of the health insurance for a month and a half without telling the employees. They didn't know until their claims were refused. But of course, it's all the employees' faults with their entitlement mentalities. How dare they expect to be paid for their work and actually expect their agreed upon benefits to continue? Do they think they are just entitled to money from a boss because they show up every day and work?

I'm sure you Republican "entitlement" freaks would say the poor company was robbed blind by the workers who demanded to be paid and wanted some benefits. Actually, one of the owners robbed the other blind. Those are the people that make me sick.

Holy crap! I'm a Republican and I don't agree with the OP view , but WOW!

 

[inaminute]

If you were a Christian, you would be compelled by your love of Christ and fellow human to feel compassion and want to help, but I guess you are an agnostic or atheist.

Republican "entitlement" freaks

Those are the people that make me sick.

I'm having trouble reconciling these three statements. Is there some history between you and the OP that we need to be aware of? Either you are referring to a quote by the OP (from another thread) in the first quote and then stating your feelings or you are one confused Christian.

 

[momof2inPA]

Holy crap! I'm a Republican and I don't agree with the OP view , but WOW!

You're right. I just feel really sad for my friend right now, whose husband was the object of my story. I would edit it, but since you copied I'll just apologize to the OP and Republicans and urge folks to have a little more compassion.

 

[momof2inPA]

my first ever double post

 

[momof2inPA]

I'm having trouble reconciling these three statements. Is there some history between you and the OP that we need to be aware of? Either you are referring to a quote by the OP (from another thread) in the first quote and then stating your feelings or you are one confused Christian.

No, I don't know the OP. I'm just sick of people using the word "entitlement" as an excuse to not show compassion or sympathy, especially people who claim to be Christians. Someone got hurt and doesn't have medical care. He doesn't make much money at work, and we don't know if he could afford the medical care. I don't know the guy, but my first instinct isn't anger at the guy, it's feeling sorry for him.

Now, for the guy who robbed the company and the company boss who lied to his employees about their health care coverage, I feel anger.

 

[KAMLEM]

I would think that there is/should be a law that if your employer offers insurance (which should be mandatory btw) and pays at least 50%, your should be mandated to accept it and pay the other 50%.

I worked for a company that forced you to take their insurance unless you could prove that you had insurance from your DH's or DW's company.

 

[ChrisnSteph]

You're right. I just feel really sad for my friend right now, whose husband was the object of my story. I would edit it, but since you copied I'll just apologize to the OP and Republicans and urge folks to have a little more compassion.

No problem! I can understand why you're frustrated, but try not to generalize too much.

 

[Planogirl]

It's terrifying to not have insurance coverage. I would bet that most people who refuse it can't afford it. Maybe I'm naive though.

 

[Crankyshank]

The health insurance industry is a vicious cycle unfortunately. There are many who can't afford health insurance and when they need care it falls on the burden of those with health insurance to pay for it through increased premiums and reduced coverage.

As more and more people find themselves unable to afford health insurance, the costs rise more and more and then less people can afford insurance until there's a point where no one can pay for routine care, let alone a major illness. And you think bankruptcy rates due to medical bills are high now?

DH and I having health insurance is a priority for us. Fortunately for us I have excellent benefits at a low cost. I know many people who are barely making ends meet and don't have insurance for themselves and free care for their kids. If it's a decision one faces due to actual monetary concerns then really there's nothing to be ashamed of. I think anger is better directed towards the system that puts people in this situation.

I have to admit I take issue with those who cry too poor for insurance but yet take expensive vacations every year. Especially those with health conditions.

 

[kpm76]

If you were a Christian, you would be compelled by your love of Christ and fellow human to feel compassion and want to help, but I guess you are an agnostic or atheist. As a Christian, I would pray (and bet) that most agnostics/atheists and non-Christians would also feel compassion.

Wow, that's a little harsh, don't you think?? If you don't know the OP at all, how about not being so quick to assume something that might not be true at all. After all, Christians are taught not to judge

 

[Marseeya]

You're right. I just feel really sad for my friend right now, whose husband was the object of my story. I would edit it, but since you copied I'll just apologize to the OP and Republicans and urge folks to have a little more compassion.

Whoa, and keep the atheists out of it too! Many, many of us are humanists and feel plenty of compassion for our fellow man.

 

[LisaNJ25]

That would annoy me also... reminds of my neighbor... he can get insurance though his work but doesnt because he says its to $$. Hmmm Well than trade in that brand new car with your $400 + payments a month and get your family medical coverage. Now he contribution would be less than $400 amont.. I think $50 a week.

My way of thinking is buy a used car and pay for your own insurance.

Instead he has the State insurance for his 2 kids. Him and his GF had it also and they family booted them off a few months ago.. oh and he was getting free dental also.

Thankfully we have great insurance... BUT my husbands pay is not great at all. he is a county employee. In my mind, I add in all ther benifits we get throughout the year for us and the 4 kids.

Other people would not take less money for the great benefits.

I am glad that the state insurance is there for people who fall on hard times. Its a shame there are so moany people out there who take advantage because they just dont want to pay for their own when they can afford it.

 

[TDC Nala]

I don't recall the OP saying he or she was a Republican OR a Christian.