Racial Discrimination? More blatant examples? More subtle?

[ZephyrHawk]

Like someone mentioned above I think those kinds of things are perspective. I secure my purse and lock my door when any man is near. Actually I do those things regardless because it's how I was taught. As a woman shopping on her own you have certain things ingrained from a very early age.

Agreed. My DH thinks I'm being silly or insensitive to other cultures because I keep a hand on my bag at all times when in a strange place. I say, "You've never caught someone trying to pickpocket you, I have."

 

[smkiya]

Whether we are black, white, Arab, or other the media makes it look like all of us go around everyday and just think about race. People like Rush and Rev. AL perpetuate this because it pushes their own agenda. I know a lot of people who fall into the minority category and none of us go around all day thinking about race. We just live our lives and get along and I think that is what the majority of the country does. While racism does exist it is not the norm, it is the exception but it is the exception equally by all parties. The media seems to skew it differently than is reality.

Many minorities do go around all day thinking about race. When in a store, a restaurant, a swim club, at work, everywhere because people do judge, whether you choose to believe it or not. I've been followed in stores, called the "n" word, eyed by others when in non-minority groups and heard "what's she doing here". I live in the northeast, and I hear other similar stories from other minorities. You have to remember too, that many minorities will only share their experiences with others who can empathize, so unless you are a minority, you really have no idea. When I am asked about racism in a group, I stress that it is getting better, but I don't share stories, because it's painful and I have to deal with it everyday, so they are not getting a realistic picture of life as a minority.

While you may not be racist or think about race, racism is alive and well though not to the extent it has been in the past. I think that with each generation it is improving, but to say it is "the exception" is very, very, very naive.

 

[Kim&Chris]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2316527



This was taken from a thread a couple months ago, and I was surprised at the lack of responses to it. It still bothers me...

I'm finding that a bit hard to swallow. I'm sorry, but there's no way a mega-corporation like Disney would tell their employees to watch people based on skin color. Disney is smarter than that, and would not open themselves up to a massive lawsuit. I do, however, believe that the employees were told not to pursue anyone suspected of shoplifting - no matter what their skin color was.

 

[smkiya]

I'm finding that a bit hard to swallow. I'm sorry, but there's no way a mega-corporation like Disney would tell their employees to watch people based on skin color. Disney is smarter than that, and would not open themselves up to a massive lawsuit. I do, however, believe that the employees were told not to pursue anyone suspected of shoplifting - no matter what their skin color was.

Please forgive me poster for using this post as an example to prove a certain point.

Someone actually admitted to racial discrimination in the post I quoted.
It happens`many times, and my husband who is non-minority has admitted, that while it is not a "corporate" policy, some store managers will encourage this "policy" among their employees. I'm sad that even when people admit to it, some choose not to believe it, or pretend that it wasn't there, or never happened, or it was just taken out of context.

 

[Luv2Scrap]

I'm finding that a bit hard to swallow. I'm sorry, but there's no way a mega-corporation like Disney would tell their employees to watch people based on skin color. Disney is smarter than that, and would not open themselves up to a massive lawsuit. I do, however, believe that the employees were told not to pursue anyone suspected of shoplifting - no matter what their skin color was.

I agree that it's hard to imagine something like this happening, but you never know. I never thought I would hear blatant racial discrimination on a radio station, but when I was at Disney in 2007, I heard a terrible example of it on an Orlando radio station. The radio personality was trying to help a guy find a job, and he actually told the public that the guy was white, so he was "good people" and they didn't need to worry about hiring him, because he was white. I couldn't believe what I was hearing!

 

[Missy1961]

I'm finding that a bit hard to swallow. I'm sorry, but there's no way a mega-corporation like Disney would tell their employees to watch people based on skin color. Disney is smarter than that, and would not open themselves up to a massive lawsuit. I do, however, believe that the employees were told not to pursue anyone suspected of shoplifting - no matter what their skin color was.

I know it seems hard to believe. But read what they said--make eye contact with shoppers with skin color different from yours. that way, they are covered--they're not telling employees to watch out for African Americans or Asians or whatever, just look at anyone different from you.

 

[wvjules]

Blatant example: Chris Newsom and Channon Christian - 2 white people brutally murdered and tortured by 4 black men. One man is on trial today...do you see anything about it on the mainstreem news? Nope. However if it were a black couple tortured and beaten by white men it would be splattered EVERYWHERE!

Heck even a month ago one was sentenced to the death penalty. I saw no mention of it here or in the MSN.

 

[Luv2Scrap]

Blatant example: Chris Newsom and Channon Christian - 2 white people brutally murdered and tortured by 4 black men. One man is on trial today...do you see anything about it on the mainstreem news? Nope. However if it were a black couple tortured and beaten by white men it would be splattered EVERYWHERE!

Heck even a month ago one was sentenced to the death penalty. I saw no mention of it here or in the MSN.

Yeah, I keep wondering about that one too.

 

[wvjules]

This is what I don't understand, while affirmative action may have gotten them a place in the Ivy league school, they still have to earn the degree, doing the work and passing. the degree is not handed to them, it must still be earned, no matter how they got into the school.

But if they got into the school on AA then absoutely they got where they are because of it.

 

[FireDancer]

Blatant example: Chris Newsom and Channon Christian - 2 white people brutally murdered and tortured by 4 black men. One man is on trial today...do you see anything about it on the mainstreem news? Nope. However if it were a black couple tortured and beaten by white men it would be splattered EVERYWHERE!

Heck even a month ago one was sentenced to the death penalty. I saw no mention of it here or in the MSN.

Were either charged with a hate crime?

 

[wvjules]

Were either charged with a hate crime?

None of the animals involved in this were charged with a hate crime.

 

[Sleepy]

I completely agree. The media seems to love reporting (ad nauseum) issues if the alleged victim is a minority. However, reverse issues seem to be brushed over.

And it seems to be a matter of the subject one is talking about. How many stories have the media reported over and over again about the rich white girl who was abducted and never found. That story has been popping up randomly over several years and the upodates just seem to fall into no change in the case. How many wealthy minority or poor white people are abducted and it never makes it to national news? is this priority for the wealthy or discrimination against the poor and minorities? What about the white pregnant woman who went missing and later her body was found? I am sure she was not the only pregnant woman to go missing and later have her body found. Just things like these that pop in my head.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Blatant example: Chris Newsom and Channon Christian - 2 white people brutally murdered and tortured by 4 black men. One man is on trial today...do you see anything about it on the mainstreem news? Nope. However if it were a black couple tortured and beaten by white men it would be splattered EVERYWHERE!

Heck even a month ago one was sentenced to the death penalty. I saw no mention of it here or in the MSN.

I know. I have been following that case. You really have to dig to get the information. That crime was chilling, the lack of humanity. And I do believe you are right, had the races been reversed the media would've been all over it.

ETA- There was another case similar to this one that happened in Wichita, Kansas. I think it was 2 women, and 4 men that were roommates. They were awakened by two males and tortured, sexually abused at gun point, and murdered. All but one were murdered. The one female survived because the bullet ricocheted off of her barrette. The shot knocked her out, but she awoke naked like the rest, in the snow. She ran a mile I think it was in the snow to get help. She was the reason the two perps were brought to justice. That was not in the mainstream media either. Guess why.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Were either charged with a hate crime?

No. I don't recall it even being brought up.

 

[SydSim]

A patient on our floor was i pre-term labor with triplets and one was about to come out immediately. Her nurse called other nurses in the room for help. Me, a nurse of color, and a caucasian nurse ran to the room and offered our assistance. Neither of us had ever had any contact with this patient before. When we asked what we could do to help her, the patient's nurse said can one of you start another IV on her. I, being the more experienced IV starter (and knowing how the other nurse, who had come in with me, hated starting IVs), said "Sure, I'll do it". Patient looked at both of us and asked her nurse, while pointing to the caucasian nurse, "Can she do it?" Sure You got it!

Subtle?

 

[SanFranciscan]

I'm finding that a bit hard to swallow. I'm sorry, but there's no way a mega-corporation like Disney would tell their employees to watch people based on skin color. Disney is smarter than that, and would not open themselves up to a massive lawsuit. I do, however, believe that the employees were told not to pursue anyone suspected of shoplifting - no matter what their skin color was.

No PC indoctrinated employee is going to confront someone from a entitled group. They know that it is not worth it. European Americans are the biggest bunch of pushovers on the planet when it comes to race too.

 

[OceanAnnie]

I think the issue of drugs is a pretty big one when it comes to race too. I think AA are prosecuted much more for drugs than whites. I have nothing to back it up, just observations.

At colleges and universities there were plenty of drugs in soroities and fraternities and elsewhere on campuses. It's not talked about much, but the kids on campuses know. Very rarely is there a bust documented. But there are plenty of busts documented in other targeted areas.

I think there are plenty of examples of racism in an abundance of varieties. Sad no matter where it is found.

 

[Kim&Chris]

And it seems to be a matter of the subject one is talking about. How many stories have the media reported over and over again about the rich white girl who was abducted and never found. That story has been popping up randomly over several years and the upodates just seem to fall into no change in the case. How many wealthy minority or poor white people are abducted and it never makes it to national news? is this priority for the wealthy or discrimination against the poor and minorities? What about the white pregnant woman who went missing and later her body was found? I am sure she was not the only pregnant woman to go missing and later have her body found. Just things like these that pop in my head.

It's a shame that only those things pop in your head.

 

[Va-bear]

The most recent: when one of the men in our neighborhood was stopped by police TWICE recently (2 different days) while jogging. He lives in the neighborhood, was well dressed (i.e. non-holey "Underarmour"-type sports clothes and $100.00 running shoes..) - but is not the same race as 99.5% of others in the neighborhood. In both cases, when he asked the police why he'd been stopped, they said people had called in about a "suspicisus person" in the area (no crime had recently occured). In speaking to others, no other neighbor could think of a single time their husband/father/brother had been stopped while jogging in the neighborhood.

Fortunately, this man has been a public servant (police officer and federal agent) for over 20 years - so he was let off w/ just a warning.

 

[tinatark]

Were either charged with a hate crime?

No -but do a search - and what you read will seem too awful to be true - it is. It was determined that the couple (white) wasn't brutalized (for DAYS) before being tortured/murdered because of their race but because the people (all black) wanted her Four Runner. It was a simple carjacking.


Dawn - my husband loves blue crabs - traditonally a "black" menu item - when we go to the places we have to go to get them, we are eyed suspiciously.

What about the N.O. mayor who vowed the city would become "chocolate" again after the hurricane.

When you hear of a "bad" white person - you hear about them being a bad seed, but often when you hear about a "bad" black person, you hear about their broken home, abuse, etc. In fact, both of the people convicted of the murders mentioned above so far had that as testimony in their sentencing phase - one of them was spared a death penalty because of that testimony.

I really think it's not necessarily racism, but somewhat of a curiosity when you see a black person where white people frequent, or vice-versa (see my blue crab story above). If a white person is in a "crack neighborhood" it's assumed they're there to buy crack. A black person could be there just to visit someone.

Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and their ilk are the epitome of racism, IMO.