Quick Service Seating Changes

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And my point is that those lines are not designed for extra people just to hang out...For family of 3 no biggie, but for families with 4,5,6 kids. during the mealtime rushes.....good luck with that.Maybe after the lines are so congested and no one can move or food keeps getting knocked over they will re-think this crap.So now everyone can listen to everyone elses kids whine, and fidget

The thing is.. If you are in Disney you are going to listen to a lot of kids whine, and fidget. Some, adults do it too..

Kids in the line..:confused3

The thing, which is being overlooked is this. Say for instance there is a family of 4.. A husband, wife, two small children. One of the parents can stay to the side and wait with the 2 children until said parent gets the food.. There is no reason for the whole family to be in the food order line.. The only way this will not work is if there is a single parent..It would be a little bit harder. But, either way that single parent could not leave the child unattended at a table either. So..:confused3
 
I traveled with my niece a couple of years ago. I did not feel comfortable leaving her alone to find a table or wait at a table. So we got the food together and then walked round and round looking for a table to sit at. This was June and it was hot. Meanwhile, many of the tables were taken by people sitting with no food. Solution?
Well I meant that one family member sits with the kids getting stuff for the table and the other one orders the food, however in your situation I can see why you would not want her to sit alone waiting for you.

Obviously no one here is going to change anyones opinion about this subject because we all have our own opinions, so maybe we should leave it at that.
 
Oh...but I DO disagree with a previous poster who said the tables should be available to anyone who just wants a rest. I'm sorry...but no. The tabes are designated for the eateries and should only be used as such.
 
When we go (family of 4) we tend to have two people stay in line and two get tables. Why? Because it's the only way we actually know we'll be able to sit right away. I have no problem with this new policy, I think it's a good thing. The only reason we do save a table is basically because everyone else does so it makes it necessary.

I think people just like to complain, really LOL. Disney will NEVER make a change that pleases everyone, but this is best for them as a business. I think people seem to forget sometimes that they are a business. I don't see them losing any profit or business from this at all, it just cycles people through faster.

Lastly, I don't see the problem with children waiting in line. They do it all day anyways, and I think it's a whole other issue if (disabled children/adults aside), kids can't wait in line for 10-15 more minutes. Whether people like it or not, these tables are meant for people eating in the restaurant. If it isn't busy it's not really an issue, but when people are having trouble finding a table as it is they aren't for you or your children to rest at if you aren't eating.
 

I think its hard to understand why children might have a need to be prioritized higher than adults until you actually have them. I certainly did not realize that before I had kids and I probably would have had the same opinion as others on this board. They are different, unlike adults, not able to rationalize, not able to understand, not able to always behave, not able to stand still despite ordering them to, they dehydrate at an incredibly higher speed than us (at that moment they need to be inside resting with a drink), don't keep their hands to themselves ... they are just different creatures. I am a very strict parent and my kids don't act like most of the other children out there that are free to run and do what they want in public places, but even I am unable to explain to my seriously tired, hot, hungry children that its not appropriate to act out and that they must wait in line quietly until a seat is available, especially when we walk in and see an empty table. I do think that children are more important than adults and I think they deserve a higher priority in places like Disneyworld!

As a parent it is your job to see to your kids needs. If you know your kid becomes impatient if they have to wait for a meal, then don't wait until they are at that point before having a meal. Schedule plenty of breaks and don't push them to the point that they are hot, crabby, and famished. I'm not sure why it is so hard to explain to kids that even when they are hot and tired that they must wait their turn. You can symapthize with them, but explain that others who already have their food need a place to sit. I think most kids would understand that.

I also don't agree with your statement that kids are more important that adults. Walt made Disney World for everyone to enjoy. He never stated that it was meant for just children, and they were most important.
 
As a parent it is your job to see to your kids needs. If you know your kid becomes impatient if they have to wait for a meal, then don't wait until they are at that point before having a meal. Schedule plenty of breaks and don't push them to the point that they are hot, crabby, and famished. I'm not sure why it is so hard to explain to kids that even when they are hot and tired that they must wait their turn. You can symapthize with them, but explain that others who already have their food need a place to sit. I think most kids would understand that.

I also don't agree with your statement that kids are more important that adults. Walt made Disney World for everyone to enjoy. He never stated that it was meant for just children, and they were most important.

This...:worship:
 
As a parent it is your job to see to your kids needs. If you know your kid becomes impatient if they have to wait for a meal, then don't wait until they are at that point before having a meal. Schedule plenty of breaks and don't push them to the point that they are hot, crabby, and famished. I'm not sure why it is so hard to explain to kids that even when they are hot and tired that they must wait their turn. You can symapthize with them, but explain that others who already have their food need a place to sit. I think most kids would understand that.

I also don't agree with your statement that kids are more important that adults. Walt made Disney World for everyone to enjoy. He never stated that it was meant for just children, and they were most important.

Completely agree with this.

A lot of people come across as having an attitude that the world (not just WDW) must be created with their child's needs in mind. I'm 19, and I was brought up Disney and I learned it was necessary to wait my turn to do just about ANYTHING there.

Also, without adults, who would be bringing these children to WDW ;)?
 
I just returned and had dinner at Pecos Bill's on 9/29. We were handed a menu when we entered. Had the choice of a self-service kiosk or a person. We tried the kiosk but it told us we didn't have any dining credits left. It was only the 3rd day of a 7 day trip! So we went to the CM and everything went smoothly. Didn't run into anyone seating us. And the stools were comfy, saw many kids sitting on them. We figured out that they could fit more round stools at a table then "square" chairs.

Of course we ate right before the MNSSHP so tables were plentiful. Our table should have seated about 6-8 people but there was only 4 of us. We had like 10 stools around the table. We just pushed them to another empty table. Because it was a party night I did see several CMs walking around checking wrist bands and asking folks that when they were finished their meal they needed to leave the park or buy tickets. CM was very nice and polite but got really nasty responses. I wouldn't want that job! Disney goes above and beyond making announcements about the party and where you can buy tickets and what time you need to be out. But that is another topic.

Since we ate at off times (had menus handed to us at Pizzafari but not "seaters") I'm guessing they didn't have a "seater". We each could have had our own table.
 
Not meant to sound harsh but maybe the people who are concerned about their children or other members of their party having to wait should simply eat at non-peak times or simply choose not to have lunch or supper at those four CS restaurants. I mean, there are other places to eat in the MK if you don't care for the seating policies of Pinocchio's, Columbia Harbour House, Cosmic Ray's and Pecos Bill.
 
"It seems to me that allowing the people who need a table the least are getting a priority here. If its a busy time, I'd bet its mostly families as children need to eat and can't "wait" like an adult can."

I just don't understand this at all. "The people who need a table the least," are the people who pay for the trip and the meal, but yet, you think they don't deserve a seat? :confused3

Disney's policy is making the seating fair to ALL of their guests, not just "the ones who count," to you. It's really very simple...everyone gets to order a meal, pay for their food, take a seat, eat, and leave. How is that NOT fair?
 
"It seems to me that allowing the people who need a table the least are getting a priority here. If its a busy time, I'd bet its mostly families as children need to eat and can't "wait" like an adult can."

I just don't understand this at all. "The people who need a table the least," are the people who pay for the trip and the meal, but yet, you think they don't deserve a seat? :confused3

Disney's policy is making the seating fair to ALL of their guests, not just "the ones who count," to you. It's really very simple...everyone gets to order a meal, pay for their food, take a seat, eat, and leave. How is that NOT fair?

It seems like some people feel their children shouldn't have to wait and take priority over other people :confused3? That's what I'm getting out of it.
 
"It seems to me that allowing the people who need a table the least are getting a priority here. If its a busy time, I'd bet its mostly families as children need to eat and can't "wait" like an adult can."

I just don't understand this at all. "The people who need a table the least," are the people who pay for the trip and the meal, but yet, you think they don't deserve a seat? :confused3

Disney's policy is making the seating fair to ALL of their guests, not just "the ones who count," to you. It's really very simple...everyone gets to order a meal, pay for their food, take a seat, eat, and leave. How is that NOT fair?
What if a counter service location is extremely busy and a Cast Member is not able to find a table for guests holding their food, which could then cause a back log of other guests waiting to be seated and their food getting cold. At least when you wait at a restaurant for a table your not holding any food, so has WDW thought of that and I say that's one difference which sets apart waiting at a restaurant and a counter service location.
 
Oh...but I DO disagree with a previous poster who said the tables should be available to anyone who just wants a rest. I'm sorry...but no. The tabes are designated for the eateries and should only be used as such.

Eh. If no one is using them, I don't care who does. Why not use the seating if it is available? The eateries are all disney eateries, and the guests all disney patrons. It isn't as though they are private.

Again, though, I will state we go in January and I've never seen a packed CS restaurant.
 
We normally need two tables for dining. I guess, large families will...be split up or wait an eternity for a table. I'm not crazy about the stools either. This is two more strikes against "quick" service.IMO
 
What if a counter service location is extremely busy and a Cast Member is not able to find a table for guests holding their food, which could then cause a back log of other guests waiting to be seated and their food getting cold. At least when you wait at a restaurant for a table your not holding any food, so has WDW thought of that and I say that's one difference which sets apart waiting at a restaurant and a counter service location.

What if a counter service location is extremely busy and you've stood in line, got your food, and there is no tables because people are waiting for their food? There's always a chance the restaurant will be completely full.

Atleast now that they've got the CM's not allowing table saving, people will be in and out faster because there's no people sitting taking up tables and not eating.
 
Ever since then I'm very touchy about adults getting priority over children when it comes to Disney.

This policy, or character interactions, are not prioritizing adults over children, if anything it is taking away all preference. In your character example the people in line ahead of you were there first. It was not their fault that you guys were late. If the person first in line is 95 and the person last in line is 5 the 5 year old just has to wait. It isn't prioritizing anyone over anyone, it is going in order. In the restaurant issue if you sit at the table in the order you receive you food there is no priority of adult over child. If I get in line ahead of you all by my lonesome and get my food first with this policy I get my table first. If you get in line first with your kids you get your food first and with this policy you get your table first.

Disney is about letting everyone, regardless of age, have a good time. If that means we all have to stand there in the same line or off to the side while someone orders than that is what it means. If I didn't want to stand in a line the last place I would go is an amusement park. If I didn't want to deal with 90 degree heat I would not vacation in Florida in the summer.

I can take or leave this policy but making it about prioritizing adults over kids makes no sense. I never looked at allowing people to hold seats as prioritizing kids over adults and if one is true the reverse must be true.
 
But if someone is waiting for a table at a restaurant they are not waiting with a tray of food, so that's the main difference if guests still need to wait for a table at a counter service location.

Not necessarily. There were still people who didn't or were unable to save tables. This caused them to have their food, and in the hypothetical situation it caused them to walk around with food and no table. Although this situation may not be ideal for people who are used to saving tables, I think it levels the playing field for everyone.

Truthfully I think people are making too big of a deal about this though. It's only happening when it's busy and right now it's at 4 CS restaurants out of the many on property.
 
But if someone is waiting for a table at a restaurant they are not waiting with a tray of food, so that's the main difference if guests still need to wait for a table at a counter service location.

But isn't that the problem? People are getting food and the tables are taken. Seems to me you made the oppositions point.:rotfl:
 
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