Quick Service Seating Changes

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The one thing which I find funny or ironic if you want to call it that, is how WDW is trying to treat the counter service locations like restaurants by having a Cast Member seat you. If you want that type of service go to a table service restaurant, because counter service locations are just like a McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's and Taco Bell. They don't have rules about saving tables before ordering and I don't think WDW should have them.
You cannot compare your average McDonald's or Taco Bell which *might* seat and feed a 100 people tops with Pecos Bills which can feed and seat 1000 people. In addition, most off-site fast food places don't get slammed like Pecos Bills does on a busy lunch rush and even is it did get busy it wouldn't stay busy for as long.

The article said that a full ONE THIRD of the seats were being held by table savers when it's busy and I believe it. I have been there when finding a seat is very problematic because table after table is taken with people without food.
 
You cannot compare your average McDonald's or Taco Bell which *might* seat and feed a 100 people tops with Pecos Bills which can feed and seat 1000 people. In addition, most off-site fast food places don't get slammed like Pecos Bills does on a busy lunch rush and even is it did get busy it wouldn't stay busy for as long.

The article said that a full ONE THIRD of the seats were being held by table savers when it's busy and I believe it. I have been there when finding a seat is very problematic because table after table is taken with people without food.

I thought that was interesting. It seems to me that an easier and more common sense way to deal with it would be to just have some cm's during the crowed hours deal with crowd control. Stick up a sign saying "no saving" between 11-2.

because who cares if people loiter when it isn't crowded.
 
lol, I have 6 of my own and 3 foster kids right now. Age 6 weeks to 22. 5 under the age of 6. Do I qualify? My older kids are old enough to watch the littles. I thought you said you had older ones, too. My bad.

LOL My older ones are only early teens. Your's are much older. I'm not leaving a 13 yo outside with 4 LO's in a stroller and a few more running around. Now seated at a table is much different and easier to keep track of the LO's. FWIW we do eat at off times so we don't take too many tables away from smaller families wanting to eat during the "lunch rush". we have to put 3-5 tables together to fit us all.
 
The thing is...Disney is betting that families who have food first will sit for less overall time now.

I'm not sure it will make all THAT much difference. I think perhaps these families will still sit roughly the same amount of time. If they want to sit for an hour they will - with or without food. Personally, familes that don't have their food yet don't annoy me. Neither really gets me upset, but I find it mildly annoying to see people holding a table AFTER they are done eating than while they are still getting food.
 

I thought that was interesting. It seems to me that an easier and more common sense way to deal with it would be to just have some cm's during the crowed hours deal with crowd control. Stick up a sign saying "no saving" between 11-2.

because who cares if people loiter when it isn't crowded.
From my reading of the article, they are only seating people when it's busy. I assumed that they would not staff the greeters and seaters if it's not busy. Plus, exactly how many people do you think would read and obey just a sign?
 
You cannot compare your average McDonald's or Taco Bell which *might* seat and feed a 100 people tops with Pecos Bills which can feed and seat 1000 people. In addition, most off-site fast food places don't get slammed like Pecos Bills does on a busy lunch rush and even is it did get busy it wouldn't stay busy for as long.

The article said that a full ONE THIRD of the seats were being held by table savers when it's busy and I believe it. I have been there when finding a seat is very problematic because table after table is taken with people without food.

I agree 100% and I have been there also when more people were sitting without food than with as you walk around with a tray.

I don't understand the my kids can't wait in line bit, if they can wait the same amount of time at the table for food they can wait that same amount in line (and behave) and yes I have kids.

Again if people only use tables once they have the food it will go much smoother and quicker for everyone and that is who Disney should be aiming to please not one demographic like small children. Older kids will think nothing of it because they wait in cafeteria lines to get their food before sitting in school everyday so it won't seem odd to them.
 
If one third of the tables are taken by people without food and they are saving a table, then obviously they are waiting for their food. I agree that it is much easier for my husband to stand in line while I go and find a seat and get the kids seated, hands cleaned, table wiped down, etc. before the food comes. It will be hard to do all of that while we are standing there trying to also juggle the food and clean the table etc. I agree - obviously people making decisions don't have kids.

Not to mention last summer when it was 90+ degrees outside my 3 year old got overeheated and we headed straight for a counter service resturant and got her to a table and I got out wet wipes and an icy pack to put on the back of her neck to cool her down and she layed her head on the table while my husband waited in line for our food.

Sometimes in the heat of the day in a place like Disney - you need to go into a cs resturant to "cool off", get a drink, maybe a snack and "regroup". Now where will you go? If you just need 15 mins. to sit down, cool off, and rest your feet and get a drink doesn't sound like that will be possible.

Is anyone complaining to Disney????
 
I don't know? Not enough, sadly. I was thinking that a couple of cm's wandering about, to remind. I was also thinking in terms of them doing it all day during the busy times of the year. lol, should spend more time than a quick skim!

It is a shame that people can't self monitor.
 
You cannot compare your average McDonald's or Taco Bell which *might* seat and feed a 100 people tops with Pecos Bills which can feed and seat 1000 people. In addition, most off-site fast food places don't get slammed like Pecos Bills does on a busy lunch rush and even is it did get busy it wouldn't stay busy for as long.

The article said that a full ONE THIRD of the seats were being held by table savers when it's busy and I believe it. I have been there when finding a seat is very problematic because table after table is taken with people without food.
Well I still don't see a problem with someone saving a table when a location is busy, because they are still planning on eating there and it's not like they are just sitting down to relax and not eat.
 
Well I still don't see a problem with someone saving a table when a location is busy, because they are still planning on eating there and it's not like they are just sitting down to relax and not eat.
Because they are taking up a table that can be used by someone else who already has food. A family that saves seats uses that table for 10-20 minutes longer (or however long it takes to get the food) than a family that does not. That means that the table turn-over is faster and more people can sit in a timely manner.
 
Because they are taking up a table that can be used by someone else who already has food. A family that saves seats uses that table for 10-20 minutes longer (or however long it takes to get the food) than a family that does not. That means that the table turn-over is faster and more people can sit in a timely manner.

That's what people just don't seem to be getting. Saving tables before food interferes with the restaurants capacity and turnover. totally messes up the numbers!!! It would be so much quicker if people just waited to sit down till they have their food.
 
Because they are taking up a table that can be used by someone else who already has food. A family that saves seats uses that table for 10-20 minutes longer (or however long it takes to get the food) than a family that does not. That means that the table turn-over is faster and more people can sit in a timely manner.
Well if those people who were trying to find a table while holding their food, if they were travelling with others they should have had them save a table. Now I realize that doesn't help those guests who travel to WDW by themselves, however until recently anyone was allowed to save tables and it's not my fault other guests didn't realize that was possible if they had others in their group who could have done that.
 
Well if those people who were trying to find a table while holding their food, if they were travelling with others they should have had them save a table. Now I realize that doesn't help those guests who travel to WDW by themselves, however until recently anyone was allowed to save tables and it's not my fault other guests didn't realize that was possible if they had others in their group who could have done that.

lol, so you see it as a being like a fp. If someone else doesn't get one, they deserve to stand and eat the food they just purchased?
 
Well if those people who were trying to find a table while holding their food, if they were travelling with others they should have had them save a table. Now I realize that doesn't help those guests who travel to WDW by themselves, however until recently anyone was allowed to save tables and it's not my fault other guests didn't realize that was possible if they had others in their group who could have done that.

That doesn't solve the table turnover rate. Look at it this way. Lets say it takes 20 minutes to wait in line, order, and get your food and then 20 minutes to eat. Saving a seat will take 100% longer than not saving a table per customer.

Saving table = 20 min + 20 min = 40 minutes
Not saving table = 20 minutes only

Your scenario is saying everyone not solo can go with the save a table method which increases the amount of time a table is occupied by 100%, and that entire 100% is spent not consuming food.

We all don't like waiting in line regardless of our age. Too bad so sad. We wait in line for the rides and attractions as a group we can wait in line to eat as a group or stand off to the side and wait. That 90 degree weather that makes someone tired makes us all tired. No one is more or less important than anyone else just because you are traveling with a large party or children.
 
Well if those people who were trying to find a table while holding their food, if they were travelling with others they should have had them save a table.
Sorry, but your "solution" makes thing much worse! Can you imagine every family sitting down first and then ordering? Talk about gridlock!
 
I asked this before and it didn't get answered so I will ask it again. If this rule extends to the other three parks what about the counter service locations at Downtown Disney and the WDW Resorts?

At Downtown Disney the Earl of Sandwich, Wolfgang Puck Express, Ghirardelli Soda Fountain and Chocolate Shop, McDonald's and Cookes of Dublin are not owned by WDW and pay rent to operate their locations. So because WDW does not own them will they need to follow with this rule?

As for the counter service locations at the WDW Resorts since they don't get as busy compared to the theme parks, will there ever be a need to have a Cast Member seat you at a table?
 
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Well if those people who were trying to find a table while holding their food, if they were travelling with others they should have had them save a table. Now I realize that doesn't help those guests who travel to WDW by themselves, however until recently anyone was allowed to save tables and it's not my fault other guests didn't realize that was possible if they had others in their group who could have done that.

I traveled with my niece a couple of years ago. I did not feel comfortable leaving her alone to find a table or wait at a table. So we got the food together and then walked round and round looking for a table to sit at. This was June and it was hot. Meanwhile, many of the tables were taken by people sitting with no food. Solution?
 
I think its hard to understand why children might have a need to be prioritized higher than adults until you actually have them. I certainly did not realize that before I had kids and I probably would have had the same opinion as others on this board. They are different, unlike adults, not able to rationalize, not able to understand, not able to always behave, not able to stand still despite ordering them to, they dehydrate at an incredibly higher speed than us (at that moment they need to be inside resting with a drink), don't keep their hands to themselves ... they are just different creatures. I am a very strict parent and my kids don't act like most of the other children out there that are free to run and do what they want in public places, but even I am unable to explain to my seriously tired, hot, hungry children that its not appropriate to act out and that they must wait in line quietly until a seat is available, especially when we walk in and see an empty table. I do think that children are more important than adults and I think they deserve a higher priority in places like Disneyworld!

Another off topic, but we went on a Disney cruise some years back and our waiter messed up at dinner and we were late to get to the final night character party, and we had to run to get there. My daughter was 3 at the time and extremely excited for the character meeting, it was the biggest event of the whole cruise. They closed the line before it was over and did not allow us to get in it, and my little girl had to stand there in her Minnie Mouse outfit crying, extremely emotional that she could not go up to Mickey and Minnie while we watched all the adults up there taking their pictures with them. I'm not exaggerating in the least, it was despicable how many adults would race to the lines to jump in front of the children for the character meetings, and that night was the worst. Ever since then I'm very touchy about adults getting priority over children when it comes to Disney. I remember what Disney was like as a child and I think every child should experience that, but it seems nowadays that children are not important for Disney anymore, they make more money on the adults. I realize how many adults love it, but I don't think that the children should miss out for any Disney, so maybe that has clouded my judgment on this matter. It seems to me that allowing the people who need a table the least are getting a priority here. If its a busy time, I'd bet its mostly families as children need to eat and can't "wait" like an adult can.
 
Did anyone else get that this we like an experient of sorts? At least that's what I got from the article. Maybe...for those of you who are oppsed to this idea, it won't stick around.

I personally could care less...if I have to tote my kids in line with me the so be it...if not...then I may be one of those evil table savers:rolleyes1

(I mean really...no one wants me in line with my crazy big twin stroller anyway! :lmao:)
 
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