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We are trying the QSDP for the first time in January after only doing the DxDP.

I appreciate both sides, but I wouldn't frequent a restaurant that did that outside of WDW. I won't do it at WDW. Probably not an issue for me. I don't go during busy times.
 
I don't have a problem with not being seated until you have your food in hand, but I do have a BIG problem with not being able to bring strollers into the dining area. The first time I went to Disney with DS he was 4 month old and unable to sit up in a high chair. If I am not able to bring in his stroller, how on earth am I supposed to be able to eat. If I am paying top disney dollar, I want to be able to enjoy my burger, and not have to balance lunch and my baby.

DS is now a year old, but still has a limited shelf life in a high chair. How eating out usually goes down is that I put him in the high chair and feed him, and then I put him back into the stroller and eat my own food. He is much happier and quieter in his stroller, and I am actually able to eat my food. I am not going to be happy if I cannot bring his stroller into the restaurant while I eat, and I can guarantee that everyone around me who has to listen to him cry will not be thrilled either.

The reason why we do mostly QS meals now is because we know that DS is not great in restaurants and we want to minimize bothering other guests. I guess that is not going to be the case anymore. :sad2:


I don't think you will have a problem, it seems like it's only the CS places with narrow isles, like Pecos Bill, etc. I'm sure if one place you come upon won't allow strollers inside, you can find another place that will. There are no shortages in CS locations.
 
Exactly. You are just as deserving of a table to eat your meal as anyone else. However, you are not MORE deserving of a table to sit, relax, regroup, etc with your preschooler while one spouse gets the food than someone who already has food and wants to eat while their food is still hot.

First of all, everyone will be pleased to know that A) We're not visiting during a busy time and B) We rarely plan on eating quick service when we do. I would never, EVER wait in a long line for sub-par food. Period. (We're also staying a monorail resort, without the dining plan and will have a car, so hopping back there for lunch or even going outside the parks, is a lot more appealing than the options laid out here.) Therefore, the likelihood that you'll ever run into me at a counter service restaurant is pretty slim. But, if you do, it's likely that my husband and son will be the only ones eating and if someone tells them I can't sit with them while they do, I will be more than upset.

Second, if I want to "rest and regroup" prior to eating my restaurant-purchased meal, I think that's a perfectly fair use of a table I found EMPTY. (Never advocated tossing someone else out or even hovering while someone else finishes their meal and leaping upon it while elbowing others out of the way ... Now that's what I'd say is rude.) The same as it's a perfectly fair use AFTER your meal. Do you advocate timers on everyone's table? Oops, you've been sitting too long, gotta go, done or not. Or the food police watching you and as soon as you take the last bite you're shoved out of the place? Or tables only for those who order "enough" food?

The idea that I can't select my own table (as another poster here described), even if one I'd prefer is also open, is just silly. As is having to justify my every action to an attendant, be it getting an additional soda or washing my hands. That sounds like jailhouse rules, not a vacation. And if that's my experience then, yes, I will leave the park and likely not return again.


Sitting on a bench is NOTHING like sitting at a table inside a CS restaurants. ... Do you care that while you're waiting, a parent who is alone with their children is wandering, with their food getting cold because there's no table for that patron who already has his/her food, just because you don't want to wait outside while your spouse is in line for another 20 minutes? That family could be done eating before your spouse even arrives with his food, if they had a table. In your scenario, that table is unavailble for people WITH FOOD the entire time your spouse is in line.

I disagree completely. The tables are for ALL restaurant patrons, the same way benches are for ALL park patrons. I've only advocated using them as a restaurant patron. There is no situation on earth in which I'm going to choke down my expensive food in 20 minutes ... Or that I'd expect anyone else to either. (Nor would I judge them if they did. To each their own ... Kind of my overall point here.) The same way that sitting on a bench for 3 minutes or 3 hours is OK, as everyone else had the same chance to sit down as you did and there shouldn't be a time limit on your stay.

I would never purposely set out to inconvenience someone else but, again, it's a first-come, first-served situation, not "rudeness," as was repeatedly suggested here. I wouldn't expect someone else to give up their table to my family either, any more than I'd expect someone to give up their place in line so I can avoid a 20 minute wait.
 
Another thing that is done during the busier season is they will set up one main queue and a CM will direct people to the individual cash registers to order. This *really* cuts the wait time A LOT plus you don't get the hairy eyeball from people who can't read the "Please Use Both Sides" sign when you get in line on the empty side of the cash register.

Oh yes, I get that ALL the time. I feel like, "sorry, not my fault you can't read the sign and all line up like sheep." And 'hairy eyeball'... :rotfl:

As a frequent solo visitor I love this. I don't even bother to try eat at Cosmic Rays or Pecos Bills anymore, because I could never find a table. Everyone was always saving them while a member of their party was waiting in line to order. I could be through eating and out of there before their family member showed up with their food.:rolleyes: Also if I was ever lucky enough to find a table, some family would ask me to give it up since I was solo and they needed that table. Back before Tusker House changed to a TS, I actually had a lady yell at me and threaten to get a manager because I was sitting by myself at the only table available (a four seater) and wouldn't give it up for her family. She said that since I was solo, I could just take my food outside and eat it. I offered to share the table with them, but she still demanded that I give it up. An elderly couple was walking by about that time looking for a table, so I offered to share my table with them. They took me up on it, I had a very nice meal, met a couple of new friends from New York, and the rude lady stalked off muttering about how rude I was to not give up my table and how WDW was for families and I shouldn't even be there.:mad:

That's terrible. I am solo in the parks all the time, and I'd be really angry/upset if that had happened to me. Good for you for not giving up your table.

I also don't mind if people want to ask if they can sit with me, but then don't treat me like I'm imposing on you by already being at the table you ASKED if you could sit at.

Ugh, I've gotten that, too. I was there first, and allowed someone to share my table, but then they act like I need to leave ASAP. People can be so rude.
 

A couple questions...

Under the new rules...
You get your food, your party gets escorted to a table.
Now someone (adult or child) needs to go to the bathroom. So you leave the seating area.
Are you allowed "back in" since you're not carrying any food? Do you get a pass from the CM "guarding" the area?

Also,
Let's say your party split up to ride attractions. Group A finishes first and stops to get something to eat (following the rules). Group B finishes, shows up at the CS, isn't hungry, but wants to sit with Group A while they finish their meal. Can Group B join Group A?

My family generally splits at CS (DW takes kiddos to bathroom/find seat while I get food). I'll reserve judgement on the new rules until I go through them, but see the above two situations as probable common occurances that haven't been addressed in this thread.

I have a question about this rule. Assuming the counter service locations are doing this since it only happens when the parks are very busy, if someone needs to go off to the washroom while the other members of your party are still eating or they want to get something extra from the toppings bar that they forgot. Will we have any problems walking back to our table because the Cast Members would see that we are not carrying a tray of food.

bumping to see if anyone has answers to the above situations.
 
First, I travel every 5-6 weeks to Disney with my 3 year old. Typically, we stay between 5-9 days. My husband is contracted out through Disney so occasionally we will do the parks with DH since he is at work. We have done DDP as well as OOP. This past visit, we had NO reservations and winged it happily while we stayed at the Swan.

Now... onto the review. WE LOVED the new seating program.

PECOS BILL: My husband waited in line, ordered, and picked up the food while I took our daughter to the bathroom. By the time I came back, he was being served our food. We all walked together to the "podium" and she waived us on. There were at least 4 CM's looking for tables and informing you of open seats. There was another CM at the exit informing people to walk in the main entrance. After we sat, I went to get items from the Topping Bar. While I was walking back to our table, I informed the CM we were already seated and she waived me by. It was GREAT! No walking in circles trying to find a table...

Columbia Harbor: Mommy/Daughter Day. No hubbie and a tired 3 year old in my arms. Paid and got food. Another CM recognized that my hands were tied up and called someone over to carry my tray. Walked us to a table and poof... it was GREAT! (This may solve the issue of solo travelers w little ones and no stroller).

I think that was it for the two places we used the seating thing... hope that helps! We were there Nov 17-24th.

Courtney
 
I have a question about this rule. Assuming the counter service locations are doing this since it only happens when the parks are very busy, if someone needs to go off to the washroom while the other members of your party are still eating or they want to get something extra from the toppings bar that they forgot. Will we have any problems walking back to our table because the Cast Members would see that we are not carrying a tray of food.

A couple questions...

Under the new rules...
You get your food, your party gets escorted to a table.
Now someone (adult or child) needs to go to the bathroom. So you leave the seating area.
Are you allowed "back in" since you're not carrying any food? Do you get a pass from the CM "guarding" the area?

Also,
Let's say your party split up to ride attractions. Group A finishes first and stops to get something to eat (following the rules). Group B finishes, shows up at the CS, isn't hungry, but wants to sit with Group A while they finish their meal. Can Group B join Group A?

My family generally splits at CS (DW takes kiddos to bathroom/find seat while I get food). I'll reserve judgement on the new rules until I go through them, but see the above two situations as probable common occurances that haven't been addressed in this thread.

1) As witnessed by others, you can get up and return.
. . . restroom break
. . . going back to the fixin's bar
2) But, you stand in line and wait to be admitted by the CM.
3) You just do not bypass the others in line and go back to the table.
4) One person has already posted how he had to wait in line.
5) He got back in, but not until it was his turn.

6) As for late-joiners not eating, no.
7) The whole idea of the rules is to make seating more available.
8) Late-comers who are not eating just use up available seats.
9) MrsRustyScupper has seen the CM actually look for where these people wanted to go.
10) Not seeing any food at the table, they were asked if they were eating.
11) Since no food, they were not admitted to Tomorrowland Terrace.
12) Not to be mean, but the seats are meant for diners, not resters.
 
Columbia Harbor: Mommy/Daughter Day. No hubbie and a tired 3 year old in my arms. Paid and got food. Another CM recognized that my hands were tied up and called someone over to carry my tray. Walked us to a table and poof... it was GREAT! (This may solve the issue of solo travelers w little ones and no stroller).

Courtney

I definitely like the part in bold.
 
Maybe this will free up tables for those of us actually eating food from the CS rather than those who take up tables while bringing in their own food. I thought it was an isolated thing at first when it happened last summer, but it was happening multiple times at each of the locations I was at.
 
It doesn't bother me if they do it or don't, but we were there from November 18-28 with the QSDP, we ate at all the mentioned places at least once and never had this happen. We never attempted to hold seats, but were not taken to our seats either. :confused3
 
1) As witnessed by others, you can get up and return.
. . . restroom break
. . . going back to the fixin's bar
2) But, you stand in line and wait to be admitted by the CM.
3) You just do not bypass the others in line and go back to the table.
4) One person has already posted how he had to wait in line.
5) He got back in, but not until it was his turn.
Thank you for that information. Although doesn't them waiting in line again defeat the purpose of what WDW is doing with this rule, because the food on their table could be getting cold while they are waiting to be seated again.
 
1) As witnessed by others, you can get up and return.
. . . restroom break
. . . going back to the fixin's bar
2) But, you stand in line and wait to be admitted by the CM.
3) You just do not bypass the others in line and go back to the table.
4) One person has already posted how he had to wait in line.
5) He got back in, but not until it was his turn.

6) As for late-joiners not eating, no.
7) The whole idea of the rules is to make seating more available.
8) Late-comers who are not eating just use up available seats.
9) MrsRustyScupper has seen the CM actually look for where these people wanted to go.
10) Not seeing any food at the table, they were asked if they were eating.
11) Since no food, they were not admitted to Tomorrowland Terrace.
12) Not to be mean, but the seats are meant for diners, not resters.

Yeah, right. I'm going to wait in line to rejoin my family and my $50 fastfood after going to get ketchup. How dumb can this get?
 
I'm going to wait in line to rejoin my family and my $50 fastfood after going to get ketchup. How dumb can this get?

Although doesn't them waiting in line again defeat the purpose of what WDW is doing with this rule, because the food on their table could be getting cold while they are waiting to be seated again.


1) CM's have been known to "wave through" returning guests
2) But, just as many had to wait until they got to the CM.
3) Sometimes there is not enough room to squeeze around.
4) Or, the CM doesn't notice the person trying to return.
5) I just gave the worst-case scenario.
 
1) As witnessed by others, you can get up and return.
. . . restroom break
. . . going back to the fixin's bar
2) But, you stand in line and wait to be admitted by the CM.
3) You just do not bypass the others in line and go back to the table.
4) One person has already posted how he had to wait in line.
5) He got back in, but not until it was his turn.
Just for the record, I only read one post about someone "leaving" for fixin's and then returning... AFTER I posted my question but before your response.

6) As for late-joiners not eating, no.
7) The whole idea of the rules is to make seating more available.
8) Late-comers who are not eating just use up available seats.
9) MrsRustyScupper has seen the CM actually look for where these people wanted to go.
10) Not seeing any food at the table, they were asked if they were eating.
11) Since no food, they were not admitted to Tomorrowland Terrace.
12) Not to be mean, but the seats are meant for diners, not resters.
So now everyone sitting needs to have food? And if a family of 5 only has meals for two, the other three can't sit? THAT I disagree with.

I also think that if the family of 5 is at a table for 8 and two more of their party show up, what's the harm of the party of two joining them? If it's a table for 5 and there's no extra chairs, different story.

The situation you provide makes it sound like Disney is more interested in making money by selling food (everyone needs to buy food to sit here) than making things easier for guests.

There's been times when traveling with my parents that DW & I will take kids on attractions, and DGma & DGpa will go have a coke at a CS and wait on us.
 
My only qualm with the new rule is the fact that it is difficult to stand in line with a toddler while holding trays of food and drinks, and trying to hold onto your child--the qs places can be standing room only at times. That being said, I loved that a table was found for us, and we were guaranteed a place to sit.
 
Last March at Pecos, when I need to go to the fixin's bar, I told the CM on the way up, and then just went back to our table with our goodies. :)
 
On our last trip we ate at Pecos Bills and they were using this system. I thought it worked well except for one aspect - the podium that the CM was stationed at between the ordering area and the entrance to the dining area blocked about half of the entrance. This meant that everyone entering with their food and all the people getting the napkins/condiments that they needed from the main area were channeled through a much smaller area than would normally have been available.

I believe that traffic could still have been controlled if the podium was off to the right side at the edge of the entrance to the dining area. With all the traffic to and fro it felt like we were being squeezed through a funnel :crowded: !
 
Disney never would have taken the time, effort or expense of a CM if there hadn't been a problem. I'm happy to hear they listened and are trying to remedy the situation.

I think I read earlier in the thread they had tested once before?

I suspect the complaint's about the new system will be less than ones regarding not getting a seat at all.


The worst experience I've read so far, is waiting in line to get back after using the washroom which is still not as bad as standing with a stroller, two hungry toddler's and a tray of chilling food.
 
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