Quick review of BRAVE - *** Spoilers ***

Pixar has stated that their movies cross many demographics and thinking that it excludes any one person's demographic is shortsighted. Pixar can not afford to be that narrow focused.

popcorn:: Have you seen the movie??? It IS a "girls movie" no matter how they want to spin it. The triplets are cute and good comic relief, but are in it very briefly. There ARE certain Pixar movies geared towards certain demographics. :thumbsup2

Case in point = Cars & Cars 2 :3dglasses

My daughter has ZERO items with Cars characters on them, unlike DS6 with three Lightning McQueen pajama sets and every Cars die-cast car created! The Cars franchise IS for boys. DS6 could watch Cars and Cars 2 over and over again, DD9 is yelling at him . . . NOT AGAIN!!! :rotfl:
 
Saw Brave last night and was completely underwhelmed. The animation is the best I've ever seen..but the story was lacking something.

As other posters mentioned..it is just missing something. There is not really a lot of humor, no real villains, no music and no real story line. I haven't met a Disney movie I didn't like...of course some I LOVE and some are just OK. Honestly..I won't even be using redbox to rent this movie let alone buy it.

I absolutely LOVED Brother Bear, so you'd think I'd like Brave too..not so much. I think Pixar is focusing more on the improvement of animation and not paying enough attention to the story...just my .02
 
I took my DD (almost 11) for her birthday treat with a friend. The girls enjoyed it, and so did I. I loved the fact that there wasn't a Prince Charming riding in to save the day, and that the main character made a mistake and by the end took responsibility for it. Is it Tangled? No. I admit that that one will always be a favorite of mine, where this one might not make that list. But I still want to take my boys - hopefully later this weekend. They're excited to see it. But then again, the four year old somehow focused in on the "Feast your eyes!" bit about four months ago, and has been wagging his backside at us ever since. :laughing:
 
We saw Brave last night with the younger two (the older two are off on choir trips). The movie was visually fantastic. I remember thinking during one scene that it was animation, not live footage. Pixar did a wonderful job in that department. I agree with some PPs that something was missing, and I can't quite put my finger on it either. Maybe I would like to have seen more of her archery abilities rather than the quick montage at the beginning? She shows some of her knowledge to her mom (berries, water, salmon), but not much else. I wish that got explored a little more.

As for the La Luna, DH and I looked at each other and said, "That was it?" We were not impressed, and we didn't think it was Pixar's best work story-wise. There just didn't seem to be any emotion attached to it. It just "was."
 

We saw Brave twice while on the Fantasy - once as a PremEAR and then again the next night. We loved the fact that there was no villain (like Nemo) and that in the end, the Princess and her mother had to work together to save themselves, without a charming Prince dashing in.

In our view, just as Nemo is a father/son tale, Brave is a mother/daughter tale. Anyone can get enjoy both, but that is the heart of the story. FWIW, our DS9 loved Brave and has been talking nonstop about the "diving" done by Hubert into the ample bosoms of the maid. His souvenir from our cruise was a stuffed Hubert as a bear. :)

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Brave is no Tangled.

I loved Tangled. Brave, not so much.

I completely agree. I am a mom, and saw this with my 9 yr old daughter and 7 year old son. None of us were wowed. It was pretty good - definitely worth a watch, but nothing exceptional. Maybe the last 2 minutes of the film pulled on the heartstrings a bit, but overall the emotional investment just wasn't there after 1.5 hours of a lack-luster build-up.

On the other hand, we all loved Tangled.:goodvibes
 
BelleProfHP said:
We saw Brave twice while on the Fantasy - once as a PremEAR and then again the next night. We loved the fact that there was no villain (like Nemo) and that in the end, the Princess and her mother had to work together to save themselves, without a charming Prince dashing in.

In our view, just as Nemo is a father/son tale, Brave is a mother/daughter tale. Anyone can get enjoy both, but that is the heart of the story. FWIW, our DS9 loved Brave and has been talking nonstop about the "diving" done by Hubert into the ample bosoms of the maid. His souvenir from our cruise was a stuffed Hubert as a bear. :)

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I love this description of it! My 6 year old and I both loved the movie, and both are excited to see it again. And, having a 15 year old myself, the love/hate mother-daughter relationship really resonated for me :/.

So glad it wasn't a romance!
 
We saw Brave last night with the younger two (the older two are off on choir trips). The movie was visually fantastic. I remember thinking during one scene that it was animation, not live footage. Pixar did a wonderful job in that department. I agree with some PPs that something was missing, and I can't quite put my finger on it either. Maybe I would like to have seen more of her archery abilities rather than the quick montage at the beginning? She shows some of her knowledge to her mom (berries, water, salmon), but not much else. I wish that got explored a little more.

As for the La Luna, DH and I looked at each other and said, "That was it?" We were not impressed, and we didn't think it was Pixar's best work story-wise. There just didn't seem to be any emotion attached to it. It just "was."

Completely agree with everything you posted!! :thumbsup2
 
Saw Brave last week. Overall, enjoyed it. My biggest problem is with the title. "Brave" doesn't really fit with this movie. I don't recall a time where Merida had to be exceptionally brave. Her parents were certainly brave. I guess that is how you survive Disney Parent Syndrome.

I think a "Brother Bear 3 - Mother Bear" is a better fit.
 
Just a couple of Brave numbers as of 7/1:

Brave movie budget = 185,000,000
Domestic take = 131,685,000
Foreign take = 26,800,000 (I think this has a long ways to go)
First weekend take = 66,323,000

Compare that to Cars 2:

Cars 2 movie budget = 200,000,000
Domestic take = 191,451,000
foreign take = 368,400,000
First weekend take = 66,136,000

Amazingly the first weekend takes are very similar.
 
Fair warning... spoilers abound.

Let me start off by saying that I also think La Luna was a phenomenal short, and very much enjoyed it.

I'm glad, in a way, to see that some other folks have lukewarm feelings about the movie. I saw it yesterday, and while it was enjoyable, and certainly a "bad" movie, I also found it very underwhelming. There was plenty that was done right, of course: it was fun and entertaining. And, like any Pixar flick, despite the characters being computer generated "cartoons", you don't really think of them as cartoons. Pixar films are known for their emotional immersion, and this was no exception.

But, three specific things stand out in my mind as disappointing--two story related, and one visual/technical.

First, the story lacked a clear protagonist/antagonist. There's a clash between mother and daughter, but there's more than enough reason to feel for either one or simply both of them; there wasn't much to say that one was right and the other was wrong, or one was good and the other evil. Once the mother is transformed, it's easy to sympathize with her, but we can't exactly call Merida the anti-hero as she's also the one who has to then save her mother. An interesting attempt to juxtapose plot roles a bit, but I just don't feel like it worked as nicely as may have been envisioned.

Second, while the story in its entirety was unique, on a smaller scale, all of the individual elements felt very tired. A mother and daughter butting heads is nothing new. The three boys reminded me of the mice from Cinderella. There was an ancient legend that (surprise) turned out to be absolutely true to the letter. (Consider any adventure/rpg video game.) A strange witch in the woods sells an expensive gift, but the user ends up paying a nasty price even after that. The mom gets turned into an animal, and they need to find a way to turn her back to a human. (Beauty and the Beast, Emperor's New Groove, to name just a few) And, at the last possible second, she is saved. (Tangled, Beauty and the Beast, among others) That probably sounds a bit cynical, and I realize that tropes are tropes because on some level they actually work... I just didn't feel like any of it was done with an unexpected or novel twist at all.

Third, I was disappointed by some of the visual work. I know it's a bit sacrilige to say that about a Pixar work, as their stuff is typically superb, and *most* of this was just that, EXCEPT the animation of the mom in bear form. I can't quite put my finger on the exact technical issue, but I think it may have been in the way she was animated. Despite all of the characters being "cartoons" on some level, their locomotion was consistent with actual human motion. The mom, however, wasn't moving in a way that looked human-like or bear-like, or even a cross between the two. It as though not just her visuals, but now also her animation was cartoonish. That's fine for Roger Rabbit where the character is specifically a cartoon, not so much when it breaks the sense of immersion. I hope I explained it right, anyway. It just, to me at least, looked amateur.

Anyway, that's my overall take away. Wasn't horrible, I'll probably end up buying the DVD/Bluray when it comes out, but it's nothing that has me too excited.
 
Just a couple of Brave numbers as of 7/1:

Brave movie budget = 185,000,000
Domestic take = 131,685,000
Foreign take = 26,800,000 (I think this has a long ways to go)
First weekend take = 66,323,000

Compare that to Cars 2:

Cars 2 movie budget = 200,000,000
Domestic take = 191,451,000
foreign take = 368,400,000
First weekend take = 66,136,000

Amazingly the first weekend takes are very similar.

I think the similarities are simply because they are Disney/Pixar. There are families and those of us "Disney addicts" who will see the movie whether it's good or not. As much as I was disappointed with Cars2 I liked it FAR better than Brave. I also agree that the title "Brave" doesn't really fit the movie.
 
I think the similarities are simply because they are Disney/Pixar. There are families and those of us "Disney addicts" who will see the movie whether it's good or not. As much as I was disappointed with Cars2 I liked it FAR better than Brave. I also agree that the title "Brave" doesn't really fit the movie.

I think "Brave" is more meant as an overarching theme referring to fighting with the bear, as well as being Brave in the sense of standing up to tradition.
 
I think "Brave" is more meant as an overarching theme referring to fighting with the bear, as well as being Brave in the sense of standing up to tradition.

I didn't think of those themes at all in relation to the title. I didn't see her fighting the bear (momma bear) and the other bear was in the film so briefly I can't imagine it referring to that one scene. I guess I could see the relation of being "Brave" to resisting tradition, but in general..don't believe the title matched the theme really at all. Just my .02
 
I didn't think of those themes at all in relation to the title. I didn't see her fighting the bear (momma bear) and the other bear was in the film so briefly I can't imagine it referring to that one scene. I guess I could see the relation of being "Brave" to resisting tradition, but in general..don't believe the title matched the theme really at all. Just my .02

I don't really disagree, btw... just pointing out where perhaps it may have come from.
 
I think the similarities are simply because they are Disney/Pixar. There are families and those of us "Disney addicts" who will see the movie whether it's good or not. As much as I was disappointed with Cars2 I liked it FAR better than Brave. I also agree that the title "Brave" doesn't really fit the movie.

And that's where you and I differ, I thought Cars 2 was terrible. Definitely comes last in my Pixar movie list. (again, it's just my opinion and I value your opinions)

As for Brave, I enjoyed the movie and so did my 11 year old daughter. Actually, she said it's her favorite Pixar movie now. I thought the movie had some pretty good humor, it was paced perfectly, and I really liked the character Merida as she reminded me of my older daughter (always blaming the parents no matter what happens). I also loved the father.

I enjoyed it more than Tangled.
 
Don't get me wrong..Cars 2 wasn't a favorite of mine at all, but at least it kept me engaged where as Brave didn't.

Tangled is probably my favorite Disney movie of all time..if not..definitely tied with Alice in Wonderland (animated original).

That's the beauty of Disney...there's something for everyone. :goodvibes
 
My husband, son (4) and I went to see it Sunday. We all enjoyed it, and I've been tempted to see it again this week (darn expensive movie tickets!) I enjoyed the characters, the story and the animation. DS keeps talking about "the 3 bears" and is obsessed with the bow and arrow set I bought him. I think once this is out on DVD it will be in regular rotation on our DVD player.
 
Just saw it yesterday and I loved it. I didn't enjoy Tangled as much as I enjoyed Brave. Guess that's why those who enjoyed Tangled, didn't enjoy Brave?

I sometimes think we overthink these movies and it lessens one's enjoyment. There's no bad guy... well, ok.. but this was a story about a daughter's relationship with her mother. I think that's harder to write than to plop down a stereotypical big bad for the heroine to fight.

There are bittersweet moments in this film. When Merida is laughing and enjoying watching her mother learning how to fish ... and then there's this realization on her face (in Pixar animation, you can even see this), that her mother's becoming a bear.

I enjoyed everything about the film... the animation, the acting and the music.
 
I am a HUGE Pixar fan, but I also was underwhelmed. It had little/none of the Pixar "quirkiness." I can't remember a single big laugh from the entire movie--although I loved the little brothers. Pixar movies are unique--this one wasn't. Incredible animation (especially of the hair), but it needed more. This movie could have been made by any studio--if the name "Pixar" hadn't been on it, I wouldn't have know it was Pixar.

As far as Tangled--one of THE best animated films I've ever seen.
 












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