Question about possibly getting an IS lens

DVC Jen

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I have been thinking about getting an IS lens to use as my everyday lens. I am considering the Canon 28-135mm IS lens. The price is something I can do - but it is going to hurt a bit. DH has been amazing about all of my camera purchases lately. I have probably come close to spending 2K of his bonus - just on my camera, lens and accessories.

So - in YOUR opinion - and I know they will be varied here... would I be better off getting a lens in about the same range (currently I don't have anything between 50 and 70mms) that is NOT an IS lens? This would free up some money to put towards another battery, memory card, and possibly a flash. I currently only have the flash that is attached to the camera.

OR - is the IS feature really that important?

I take a lot of pictures of my family, dogs, landscapes and occassionally my youngest daughters dance recitals.

What do all of you "experts" think? :)
 
My entire lens lineup is the 50mm f1.8, 28-135 is and the 70-300 is for my rebel xt
The overlap is nice I do not have to switch lenses as often to cover the middle range.
Whether you need IS in 10% or 80% of your shots, it is nice to have.

MIkeeee
 
DVC Jen, what lenses do you already have?
 
DVC Jen, what lenses do you already have?

I have my kit lens (for my canon xti) it is 18-55mm
the canon 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4
and a 70-300mm f/4-5.6

ya know just as I typed this in and looked back at what I have - I realized I was totally wrong. I do have a lens to bridge that gap from 50mm - 70. I just got it - for Christmas - my sigma lens.

:sad2: ( I swear I have NOT had too much eggnog )

So - does anyone think spending the additional $ on getting the canon IS lens makes sense for me? Or - should I concentrate on getting a decent flash, another battery and perhaps one or two more memory cards?

The thought of the IS lens is very appealing - but I think I also have gotten into a lens buying frenzy and maybe I need to chill a bit.

Why didn't anyone warn me that this camera thing is addictive?
 

Since you seem to have the 18mm-300mm range covered, the next question is, what types of photos do you now and want to shoot in the future?

The lens/accessory recommendations will change depending on what you want to do. But if you only have one battery, then I would say the first thing you should get is a spare.
 
I mostly want to take landscape, storms, family, and my daughter during her dance recitals.

I really love going out when we are on vacation and taking landscape pics. That has to be my all time favorite - or close up/macro type shots.

I agree about the battery. The one I have really lasts for a long time - but I have more than once (with my old olympus point n shoot) had a great shot in my sights only to realize my battery was dead.

I am just wondering if an IS lens is something that would REALLY be beneficial for me - or is it something that I will mostly use 2 times a year during the dance recitals? I really have a pretty steady hand and for longer exposures I will use a tripod. But then again - if the benefits of the IS are really that good - I want to get one.

I know it is a personal decision type of thing - but I am just curious what everyone else - with so much more experience than I have - thinks about this.
 
From the sounds of your activities, you may be wasting your money on IS (although, I would love to have IS myself). The only time IS will come into play is handheld shooting (you don't want to use it on a tripod) and you seem to do alot of photography that allows time for setup on a tripod (doing the storm watch stuff with a small tripod [GorillaPod?] in the car should work well). If you are satisfied with the sharpness of your current work, then I think you have your answer. But, if you feel the need to spend the money, you could buy it for me. I am not satisfied with my work :rotfl:
 
From the sounds of your activities, you may be wasting your money on IS (although, I would love to have IS myself). The only time IS will come into play is handheld shooting (you don't want to use it on a tripod) and you seem to do alot of photography that allows time for setup on a tripod (doing the storm watch stuff with a small tripod [GorillaPod?] in the car should work well). If you are satisfied with the sharpness of your current work, then I think you have your answer. But, if you feel the need to spend the money, you could buy it for me. I am not satisfied with my work :rotfl:

LOLOLOL I am never satisfied - well some of it I am, but these are so far (with this camera) just pics I have taken around the house of my family and dogs. My biggest problem is remembering to fill the frame.

I was really happy with what i got from my Olympus - put it wasn't nearly as complicated. I want to learn how to use the manual settings and get great pics - not just "ok" pics.

LOL Maybe I have fallen into the "if I just buy more I will get better shots" hopeful attitude. ;)
 
LOL Maybe I have fallen into the "if I just buy more I will get better shots" hopeful attitude. ;)

I know what you mean. I am surfing right now to purchase a new EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM because I am going to Greece in April and NEED a lens that will work in Greece. My others won't. [and I'm sticking to that story]

Update: I just bought it for $539. Wahoo! Cheaper than an L series and it's fine glass from all the reviews I've read.
 
I know what you mean. I am surfing right now to purchase a new EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM because I am going to Greece in April and NEED a lens that will work in Greece. My others won't. [and I'm sticking to that story]

Update: I just bought it for $539. Wahoo! Cheaper than an L series and it's fine glass from all the reviews I've read.

LOLOL ya sure you won't need something really wide for those great landscape shots that just might be calling your name - in greek of course. ;)
 
i like my 28-135 IS and think the IS is nice, tons easier to not lug a tripod..but if you are happy with your other lenses i wouldn't get a duplicate one just to get IS...like someone else said if you are happy with the quality you are getting from what you have, i'd get something different down the line like a real macro. i'm trying to decide about the 70-200 f4L and the 70-300 IS and how much i want the IS vs how much a want a little better lens ( basically the same price..if one were just an extra $200 my job would be so much easier;) )
 
LOLOL ya sure you won't need something really wide for those great landscape shots that just might be calling your name - in greek of course. ;)

Nope, that 70-300mm ought to do it. At least Canon thinks so. It is listed to support landscape, portrait, sports, and wildlife. Now, if you think I need to take some indoor shots, I will need to get, maybe, a EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM. Hmmm....maybe you are right. I should think about taking some indoor pictures.
 
Nope, that 70-300mm ought to do it. At least Canon thinks so. It is listed to support landscape, portrait, sports, and wildlife. Now, if you think I need to take some indoor shots, I will need to get, maybe, a EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM. Hmmm....maybe you are right. I should think about taking some indoor pictures.

you know some reviews i have read down play both the 70-300 and 70-200 for wildlife/sports...maybe even some posts on here and even the camera store guy ( although he recommended i get a f8 mirror lens...it is cheap but the thing is horrific except the subject...really odd background so his word is worthless imo) saying they aren't fast enough which is what made me consider the 70-200 more due to the f4 aperture throughout.. although sometimes i think some reviewers are more inclined to not say anything is worthwhile just cause they want to appear to be so particular...it's starting to bug me...I wish they'd just give me the facts and i'll ask for opinions on here:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Oblio posted some as usual drool inducing photos with a sigma 50-500 ( the thread about how big a zoom could you handhold) but that is around $1000 for a canon( faint) although just a few months ago i thought 400 was bad ...maybe i should wait 6 months and it'll sound like $1000 is a bargain:laughing:
 
you know some reviews i have read down play both the 70-300 and 70-200 for wildlife/sports...maybe even some posts on here and even the camera store guy

The problem with the reviews is that they are geared for professionals. These lenses, esp. the 70-300mm, are perfectly fine for non-pros, like me. I don't need to put the images in a magazine so I don't need the added expense for a slightly faster, clearer lens (such as the Canon "L" series). These professional level lenses are better, no doubt, but if you don't need magazine-quality exposures, you're gonna save a bundle and still have great photos.

And we all know that it's not the camera taking the picture, it's the person.
 
the canon 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4
and a 70-300mm f/4-5.6

I'd be most inclined to add a wide lens to the set. One of the APS-C wide lenses would probably be the best bet. If you plan on going full frame or APS-H some day, you might consider the 17-40mm instead.

reviews i have read down play both the 70-300 and 70-200 for wildlife/sports

300mm isn't long enough for serious wildlife photography and the 70-300 won't take a Canon extender. On the flip side, if you've ever priced super telephoto lenses for wildlife, you'll seen that they are breathtakingly expensive. I looked at a short, cheap one yesterday (300 f/2.8). It was $350 just for the freaking lens hood! The lens itself was almost $4,000.

300mm will get you great zoo shots or Animal Kingdom shots. It's a nice range for hand holding. I've never owned anything longer (unless you include the not very sharp combination of a 70-200 zoom and a 2.0x extender). There have been times when I've wanted longer, but not enough to justify anything close to the expense.

For sports photography, speed is more important than reach. The 70-300 would be fine for a sunny event, but you'd start to get into trouble shooting fast action on a really cloudy day or close to sunset. Indoor shooting would also be problematic. Again, solving the problem means spending lots of money (double the price on the 70-200 to go from f/4.0 to f/2.8). IS isn't a substitute for speed when your subject is moving.

I had the old Canon 75-300mm IS (not a particularly good lens at all), and was able to get by with some sports work. Still, if my intent was to shoot a kid at indoor sporting events or after school outdoor events, it would not have worked well at all.

Like everything with cameras, you can almost aways get more/better if you are willing to spend much more and lug around more weight. The problem is that the "more" parts grow exponentially compared to the benefits. Few will argue that the 70-200mm f/2.8 is twice as useful compare to the 70-200 f/4.0. In fact, I'd bet that more than 80% of the shots I take with my f/2.8 are at f/4.0 or above. Everyone has to decide what the marginal improvement would be by going further up the price chain and whether that is worth it to them.

The problem with the reviews is that they are geared for professionals. These lenses, esp. the 70-300mm, are perfectly fine for non-pros, like me. I don't need to put the images in a magazine so I don't need the added expense for a slightly faster, clearer lens (such as the Canon "L" series). These professional level lenses are better, no doubt, but if you don't need magazine-quality exposures, you're gonna save a bundle and still have great photos.

I'll be the first to agree that "L" type lenses aren't for everyone. In addition to being very expensive, they are also a lot heavier, bulkier, draw more attention (at least the white ones do), and can be more difficult to use. Still, there is more to it than just pro's trying to get enough clarity for magazines. I'm strictly an amateur, but photography is my main hobby. I'm willing to spend more money on photo gear than most.

The main driver for the lenses that I got was actually getting the zoom range that I wanted with the minimum aperture that I wanted. Canon doesn't offer a non-L version of the 70-200 f/2.8. Sigma, Tamron, etc don't (or at least didn't) offer a 70-200 f/2.8 with IS. I wanted those features for family snapshots and was willing to put up with lugging around a 7" long, 3 pound lens. I was also willing to pay $1,000 for the extra shots that I could get and the shallower depth-of-field I could get with the f/2.8 lens.

It's all about compromises. How much money are the different features and lens quality worth to you? How much are you willing to carry around? How often are you willing to change lenses? How much will you use the lens? Because these questions are so personal, it's really hard to make lens recommendations to people.

In the old days, picking the Canon 70-200mm f/4.0 over the crummy 75-300 IS was a no brainer. The cost wasn't much higher and the 75-300 was ugly after 200mm anyway. The 70-300mm sounds like it has been hugely improved, so now you've got to think hard about which of the two makes sense for you. Do you want slightly better optics, stronger build quality, weather seals? The 70-200 f/4.0 might be your best option. Do you want a longer reach and image stabilization? The 70-300 IS might be your best option.

If you find that both are two bulky, you can get the optically inferior, much more expensive, but tiny 70-300 DO. If you aren't willing to compromise between the two, you can by the much more expensive 70-200 f/4.0 IS and a 1.4x extender.
 
The problem with the reviews is that they are geared for professionals. These lenses, esp. the 70-300mm, are perfectly fine for non-pros, like me. I don't need to put the images in a magazine so I don't need the added expense for a slightly faster, clearer lens (such as the Canon "L" series). These professional level lenses are better, no doubt, but if you don't need magazine-quality exposures, you're gonna save a bundle and still have great photos.

And we all know that it's not the camera taking the picture, it's the person.

actually the 70-200 f4 l is only about $20 more than the 70-300 IS. and imo while it's true the composition, technique etc play a big part in the end result, if your lens is not sharp the picture won't be good no matter how well composed it is. not saying either of the above 2 lenses wouldn't give you a sharp photo, just in general. so i think there are some limits to the arguments it's just the person or else no one would use anything but a pinhole camera made out of a shoe box;) :)
 





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