Question about kids under 10 and fingerprints.

[hedg12]

We took our 4 and 9 year old granddaughters to DW this past Feb. & bought them annual passes. I seem to recall that when we went through the turnstiles at the parks the girl's mom had to scan her fingerprint for the 4 y.o.
We're going again in a couple of weeks & are now planning on taking the 4 y.o., but mom's not going this time. Are we going to have any headaches getting her into the parks without mom's fingerprint? I can't imagine we would, but I'd like to be as prepared as I can.

 

[omniscientmommy]

Did they take a picture of her? You might have some trouble. You might want to give a call to Disney

 

[Pluto0914]

We took our 4 and 9 year old granddaughters to DW this past Feb. & bought them annual passes. I seem to recall that when we went through the turnstiles at the parks the girl's mom had to scan her fingerprint for the 4 y.o.
We're going again in a couple of weeks & are now planning on taking the 4 y.o., but mom's not going this time. Are we going to have any headaches getting her into the parks without mom's fingerprint? I can't imagine we would, but I'd like to be as prepared as I can.

They can reset the magic band to your fingerprint. We used my husband’s finger print for my five year old this last trip, and one night he stayed at the hotel with our youngest and I took the five yr old back to MK and it wasn’t an issue at all. Just explain what’s going on the the cast member and they’ll help

 

[jolynne28]

We’ve taken our kids twice, the oldest was 4 and 5, youngest under 3. We weren’t given the option to use our fingerprint for our son, they made us use his and it was a huge pain getting it to work every day when entering a park. We had to rescan it multiple times.
I don’t see it being an issue for you since the AP is assigned to your granddaughter, but they might make you scan her print this time around.

 

[hedg12]

Thanks all - this puts our minds at ease a bit. Now all we have to worry about is keeping up the the 4 year old...

 

[Disneyliscious]

Disney asks people to fingerprint their children? No way in hell I’d do that. It’ll be in some system the rest of his/her life and without the child being of legal age to give consent for it. I’ll never set foot on property again if they tell me we have to fingerprint the kids. Ridiculous.

 

[Tink9721]

Disney asks people to fingerprint their children? No way in hell I’d do that. It’ll be in some system the rest of his/her life and without the child being of legal age to give consent for it. I’ll never set foot on property again if they tell me we have to fingerprint the kids. Ridiculous.

Yes, everyone has to do a finger scan after scanning their bands or tickets. It's been that way for years. Really not a big deal.

 

[Disneyliscious]

Yes, everyone has to do a finger scan after scanning their bands or tickets. It's been that way for years. Really not a big deal.

It wasn't that way in 2015. None of us were scanned. And how about you worry about whats a big deal to your family and I'll worry about whats a big deal for mine? Just because you are fine giving away every ounce of your privacy on a whim doesn't mean everyone else is. A 4 year old child has not committed a crime and should not be forced to be finger printed - which will keep that data in a system for her entire life (same with the silly DNA Ancestry tests). If they require us to do that, we'll happily walk away and not return. Period.

 

[disney11fan]

Yes, everyone has to do a finger scan after scanning their bands or tickets. It's been that way for years. Really not a big deal.

Yes it is. In today's day and age, I trust no one.

 

[Tink9721]

It wasn't that way in 2015. None of us were scanned. And how about you worry about whats a big deal to your family and I'll worry about whats a big deal for mine? Just because you are fine giving away every ounce of your privacy on a whim doesn't mean everyone else is. A 4 year old child has not committed a crime and should not be forced to be finger printed - which will keep that data in a system for her entire life (same with the silly DNA Ancestry tests). If they require us to do that, we'll happily walk away and not return. Period.

There's a pretty big difference between being okay with Disney's finger scanner and "giving away every ounce of my privacy on a whim." And they were definitely doing it in 2015. They started doing it in 2005, according to AllEars.

http://allears.net/walt-disney-world/wdw-planning/finger-scans-for-park-passes/

What admission media require the use of ticket tag finger scans?

Effective January 2, 2005, all current WDW admission media will use the finger scans. Effective June 20, 2005, all WDW admission media including ones purchased prior to 2005 began using the finger scans.

Also, according to the original post in this thread, you can use your own fingerprint for your child. Maybe doing a little research will make you feel better, but if it's really that big of a deal for you, you should probably cancel any upcoming trips.

Why does Disney need my fingerprints?

The admission system has nothing to do with your fingerprints. It scans your finger and uses a geometric formula to come up with a number that will identify your fingers. The calculated number is apparently something that is not totally unique, but is statistically significant in identifying you.

How long will Disney keep this information?

The data on the scans is kept independent of any other system and will be purged 30 days after the ticket expires or when the computer determines that it is fully used up.

 

[sponica]

Disney asks people to fingerprint their children? No way in hell I’d do that. It’ll be in some system the rest of his/her life and without the child being of legal age to give consent for it. I’ll never set foot on property again if they tell me we have to fingerprint the kids. Ridiculous.

It's not like a fingerprint that the police would take, or a job. It's more like a biometric map looking for unique markers and its reset with every ticket. The system reads my magic band is labeled Sponica, looks for map that matches Sponica's current ticket entitlement. But the next trip it reads the "new ticket" and collects a new map (or something like that). Passholders are different though because their ticket is the same one for the year.

ETA: @Tink9721 posted the information in a much more intelligent manner than my shoddy memory.

 

[Tink9721]

It's not like a fingerprint that the police would take, or a job. It's more like a biometric map looking for unique markers and its reset with every ticket. The system reads my magic band is labeled Sponica, looks for map that matches Sponica's current ticket entitlement. But the next trip it reads the "new ticket" and collects a new map (or something like that). Passholders are different though because their ticket is the same one for the year.

ETA: @Tink9721 posted the information in a much more intelligent manner than my shoddy memory.

I couldn't figure out how to explain it either so I just went for the AllEars info

Reading a little further down that page, this may be helpful for anyone who's uncomfortable with the scanner, but I'm not sure how well this actually works.

Does everyone that has one of those passes have to use the finger scan system?

Yes. Originally all chilkd tickets were exempt from usibng the scanners but in 2016 Disney began requiring it for everyone. If you personally prefer not using the finger scanners, a photo ID can always override the use of biometrics. Just present the gate CM a photo ID and be admitted without using the scanner. Otherwise, you will have to use the finger scanners to get in.

 

[Disneyliscious]

And they were definitely doing it in 2015. They started doing it in 2005, according to AllEars.

None of us were fingerprint scanned at any park in 2015. Really not sure how else to put it.

Also, according to the original post in this thread, you can use your own fingerprint for your child. Maybe doing a little research will make you feel better, but if it's really that big of a deal for you, you should probably cancel any upcoming trips.

Well of course I need to research more. I literally JUST read the info here when posting and commented " If they require us to do that " If. IF. That implies I need to do more research. Maybe reading things the first time will make you feel a little better.

And yes, I will be looking into it more and if they require fingerprints, I will absolutely cancel my trip. Disney isn't the only place on earth to vacation. Good Lord.

 

[sponica]

@Disneyliscious I did check disney's own privacy policy. You can use a photo ID if you don't want to take advantage of ticket tag. Granted that's not really helpful for people under 16 who don't necessarily have photo IDs, but that's a whole different conversation. I think most people just do the scans because it's faster (unless you're me...and your scans never work right)


https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/my-disney-experience/my-magic-plus-privacy/What is the Ticket Tag service and what information is collected through it?

We offer the convenience of Ticket Tag at the entrance of many of our theme parks and water parks. Ticket Tag helps to facilitate ease of re-entry into our parks and helps prevent fraud.

In order to use Ticket Tag, you simply place your finger on a reader. The system, which utilizes the technology of biometrics, takes an image of your finger, converts the image into a unique numerical value and immediately discards the image. The numerical value is recalled when you use Ticket Tag with the same ticket to re-enter or visit another Park. Ticket Tag does not store fingerprints.

Are all guests required to use Ticket Tag?

If you don't want to use Ticket Tag, you can simply carry and show a photo ID that matches the name identified with your ticket.

ETA: I feel like they're understating the "simple" process. I imagine it will involve a trip to guest relations...

 

[TinkLoverSam]

None of us were fingerprint scanned at any park in 2015. Really not sure how else to put it.



Well of course I need to research more. I literally JUST read the info here when posting and commented " If they require us to do that " If. IF. That implies I need to do more research. Maybe reading things the first time will make you feel a little better.

And yes, I will be looking into it more and if they require fingerprints, I will absolutely cancel my trip. Disney isn't the only place on earth to vacation. Good Lord.

Disneyland does not use finger scans (which are not fingerprints) they use a different system and take a photo now with all multiway tickets. Were you at WDW or DL?

 

[verleniahall]

None of us were fingerprint scanned at any park in 2015. Really not sure how else to put it.

Were you at DisneyLAND?? They don't scan fingers at DisneyLand in CA, but I GUARANTEE they did at WDD in Florida.

We were there in 2014 - had to scan finger with ticket - there in 2015 - ALSO had to scan our finger - it REALLY isn't that big of a deal -

The only reason you would have an issue is if you had something to hide

 

[DopeyDame]

Getting back to the OP...

It won't be a big deal at all and happens all the time. (Mom scans first, and then later in the trip dad is with kid going through the turnstyles or something).
They'll either have her scan her own finger, or just have you scan yours and reset it. They may or may not take a picture of your daughter (it seems to me like they do that the second time someone needs the finger scan reset, but like all things Disney, I'm sure there's no consistency)

As for fingerprints... it's not a full set of finger prints or anything (I, too, would cancel a trip over that.) It's a scan of one finger of your choosing and they don't store the whole print anyway. And I can't imagine how you *didn't* do it in 2015 - perhaps you just didn't really worry about it since it's not a huge deal in person.

 

[KrazeeK120]

Disney asks people to fingerprint their children? No way in hell I’d do that. It’ll be in some system the rest of his/her life and without the child being of legal age to give consent for it. I’ll never set foot on property again if they tell me we have to fingerprint the kids. Ridiculous.

You only have to scan one finger, and it isn’t a full fingerprint. It’s enough biometric data to differentiate you from other people.

You can use a photo ID in lieu of the biometric scan, but it takes longer and is less convenient.

Disney World has had the biometric scans in place for several years, so if you went there in 2015, you would have done it then (or been asked to show photo ID). I, too, visited in 2015.

 

[lorenae]

None of us were fingerprint scanned at any park in 2015. Really not sure how else to put it.



Well of course I need to research more. I literally JUST read the info here when posting and commented " If they require us to do that " If. IF. That implies I need to do more research. Maybe reading things the first time will make you feel a little better.

And yes, I will be looking into it more and if they require fingerprints, I will absolutely cancel my trip. Disney isn't the only place on earth to vacation. Good Lord.

As mentioned, it's not a 'fingerprint'- it's a biometric scan.

But if you were at WDW in 2015, and you went into a park, you definitely did it OR a photo ID. My 5 year old GS did it, as did I.

 

[DisneyOma]

Disney asks people to fingerprint their children? No way in hell I’d do that. It’ll be in some system the rest of his/her life and without the child being of legal age to give consent for it. I’ll never set foot on property again if they tell me we have to fingerprint the kids. Ridiculous.

It wasn't that way in 2015. None of us were scanned. And how about you worry about whats a big deal to your family and I'll worry about whats a big deal for mine? Just because you are fine giving away every ounce of your privacy on a whim doesn't mean everyone else is. A 4 year old child has not committed a crime and should not be forced to be finger printed - which will keep that data in a system for her entire life (same with the silly DNA Ancestry tests). If they require us to do that, we'll happily walk away and not return. Period.

None of us were fingerprint scanned at any park in 2015. Really not sure how else to put it.



Well of course I need to research more. I literally JUST read the info here when posting and commented " If they require us to do that " If. IF. That implies I need to do more research. Maybe reading things the first time will make you feel a little better.

And yes, I will be looking into it more and if they require fingerprints, I will absolutely cancel my trip. Disney isn't the only place on earth to vacation. Good Lord.

I believe you are hung up on the term "Fingerprinting" - it's not a fingerprint. As others have stated, WDW collects biometric info on one digit and stores that info tagged to a ticket. There's no connection with anything else besides the info on that ticket, which would have a name (doesn't even have to be a real one, we've found out) and whatever info you have chosen to enter on MDE. The only real info connection has to do with the MDE account holder's name, and any credit info used through MDE. But the credit info is online someplace anyways, through the banks, etc. We have multiple MDE accounts with all kinds of names on them. Not sure how any one biometric scan on one ticket would lead to an actual person, or what anyone would do with that?