PSA Please don't bring your dog to the bus stop

[MaumeeMom]

I have to say the whole bus stop aspect of it is interesting. People are pointing out that the school has no business saying what can and what can't be done at he bus stop. BUT when there is a thread about, say bullying at a bus sop, everyone is telling the OP to call the school and tell hem what is happening at the bus stop. They should be the ones handling it.

So which way is it?

When I was dealing with a bullying issue I researched this.

Let's say the stop is at a corner of a public street, near a stop sign, at the public right of way or easement.

The school children (and any school staff) are to deport themselves as if they were on school property. School rules apply while they are at the appointed spot waiting for the bus or exiting the bus. This is the same as if they were at a sporting event or on a field trip.

Of course, these rules do not apply to the general public. The dog walkers are the general public so school rules would not apply to them at the corner. I would assume they would apply if the person were to go onto actual school property, for example walking to the school to pick up kids as opposed to just a stop.

So, yes if there is bullying by a student, the school can take action.

 

[bouldertcr]

Interesting thread, indeed. I am an avid runner and run regularly on rail trails and parks in the area. I have been attacked at least 4 times by dogs who were unleashed and on those flex leashes. Do I give off those fear vibes when seeing a dog during my run, you bet I do. It is very frightening to be attacked. Please dog owners, keep your dogs on short leashes and train them how to walk/run with you. If you are out in public places and there are signs posted to keep your dog on a leash, please do so, even if your dog is "friendly". All of those dogs who attacked me were "friendly" too.

Thanks to all of you who do short leash your dogs in public recreational places. It is greatly appreciated.

 

[Wishing on a star]

If I'm out and YOUR dog jumps on me or one of my kids, I am going to have a huge problem with that - and you will know it.

You know, if this thread were about kids being allowed to jump on and drool on others, everyone would be up in arms over it.

Hahahahah!!!!!!
Unfortunately, I am not so sure that you are correct...
(boys will be boys, ya know... and little precious can do no wrong, cause everybody must love him....)

I have just been dealing with a situation with a kid in a group that we are involved with.... this kid literally JUMPED my son from behind... took him down to the floor, giving my son very forceful 'noogies'.

This kid is EXACTLY like the undisciplined dogs that people are referring to here. He simply can NOT keep his hands to himself. And, I have seen him be rather agressive with this. jumping on other kids, bullying in between two friends, where there was no seat or one inch of roon there... pulling/dragging a 'friend' across the room, coming up from behind and taking a wisp of hair and yanking it.... on and on and on and on....

I didn't say a word until I saw him on top of my son...
Then I stepped in... After I said "Get OFF him" in my best mama-voice. I tried to tell him 'We keep our hands to ourselves..."
One other time, I reminded him about keeping one's hands to themselves.

Well, I was later called over to 'discuss' this with the other parents... and this little 'Precious' can do no wrong, and I, yes I, 'intimidated' a child for telling them to keep their hands to themselves.

Yes, there are 'those parents'.... just as their are 'those dog owners'.

 

[Tinkerbelle's Mom]

Interesting subject.

I am a dog lover. We always had dogs in our house growing up. But.. after I lost a lung to cancer I have become very allergic to pet dander - at least some types. I have not owned a dog since the surgery but.. would love to if I could.

Now dogs not being allowed on school property - I get that. It makes sense to me. HUndreds of kids running around - not a good enviroment for a dog.

At the bus stop -- hmmm thats tougher for me. I think that if the dogs are leashed and well controlled then there should not be an issue. JUmping on kids and such should definately not be allowed. Dogs that like to fight with each other should be kept apart. But that all seems like common sense to me.

What does bother me is when people don't think the no pet rules apply to them. There is this one mom that is always bringing her dog to dds ballet studio. The waiting area is very small and can get crowded when three or four classes are being let out and new ones ready to start. SHe has been asked not to have her dog inside but she does it anyway.

 

[Tinijocaro]

I think people have every right to bring their dogs to the bus stop or walk the dog to school to pick up their kids.

There're rights and there is common courtesy. We all have all kinds of "rights" but thankfully, most people choose courtesy whenever possible.

 

[onelilspark]

Not dealing with bus stop issues yet (thank goodness!) But just around my neighborhood I'm going bonkers. I love dogs, we're looking at adpoting a dog sometime next Spring. But the amount of people who keep their dogs off leash in a townhouse community amazes me! When I back out of my garage, I cannot see anywhere besides behind me. A person knows to stop, a person with a dog on a leash can stop the dog. I'm so afraid I'm going to hit a dog, it's not funny.

I wrote a letter to our board, but the President of the Board is one of the people who do it! Honestly...it doesn't matter that you have a well behaved dog...you live in a townhome community where people are constantly coming and going. Have some common sense!

rant over.

 

[GaSleepingBeautyFan]

I brought my dog to the bus stop once. Never again. She is always on leash outside of our backyard so that helps alot.

First there were 2 girls terrified of her. She was just sitting there being good and I kept her away from them (she's a King Cavalier Spaniel Mix) but I didn't want them to be scared.

But what really worried me were the kids who wouldn't leave her alone. She's a great dog and loves attention but the kids were practically on top of her. I got them away from her and explained that only 1 could pet her at a time which they did while waiting for the bus.
Sophie did great, she just sat and didn't try to jump on anyone but it's just not fair to her to have to deal with that crush of kids.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I just don't get why anyone would want to bring their pet to the bus stop. It just seems like a recipe for disaster.

 

[surfergirl602]

Those people who let their dogs jump on me will soon find my knee in the chest of their dogs. It annoys the heck out of me!

 

[dogluva]

I'm confused...was there a bite mark? Sounds like one overly dramatic response after another...how odd...when there wasn't even a bite mark (I assume, since there was no biting).

His pants were wet from whre he was either licked or from my dog's nose. I don't know. My dog did not bite him and they all admitted that there was no mark. I guess because he said he was bit they had to take his word for it even though no one called me. They all said it was protocol. I was furious, especially since I work in a school and when I asked the nurse she laughed. She said she would have sent him back to class if there was no mark.

The boy's mother left a message wanting to talk about the "incident" at the bus stop. I wanted to tell her to get out of bed in the morning if she is so concerned.

 

[dogluva]

I just don't get why anyone would want to bring their pet to the bus stop. It just seems like a recipe for disaster.

It really is. I don't anymore. It is not worth it.

 

[Mermaid02]

Those people who let their dogs jump on me will soon find my knee in the chest of their dogs. It annoys the heck out of me!

that is how we trained our dog NOT to jump. Nothing wrong with that.

If folks take their dogs out to the bus stop or elsewhere- they need a short, controllable leash. Period. If they aren't going to control their dog- they have no business having them out. they also need to stay on the edge of the group. Don't put your dog in the middle of things.

 

[Took]

It really is. I don't anymore. It is not worth it.

Some folks are probably trying to kill two birds with one stone--pet walk and child walk at the same time. I agree that pets on (real) leashes shouldn't be a problem. Heck, when I was a kid, no one even put their pet on a leash. I also don't remember any dogs being vicious--it seems they were better socialized then (?). I'm not saying twe should return to those days (I, too, know a kid who was attacked by a dog), but for kids to be afraid of ALL dogs, seems a bit over the top.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Some folks are probably trying to kill two birds with one stone--pet walk and child walk at the same time. I agree that pets on (real) leashes shouldn't be a problem. Heck, when I was a kid, no one even put their pet on a leash. I also don't remember any dogs being vicious--it seems they were better socialized then (?). I'm not saying twe should return to those days (I, too, know a kid who was attacked by a dog), but for kids to be afraid of ALL dogs, seems a bit over the top.

When I was a child, I was bit by a German Shepard. Unprovoked. There was a long time I was skiddish of all dogs. I like dogs now, not a big fan of large dogs but if they are well behaved I'm okay with them too. Sometimes there is a reason for being afraid of all dogs. It takes time to get over some things. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[kacaju]

I just don't get why anyone would want to bring their pet to the bus stop. It just seems like a recipe for disaster.

I bring my dogs to to the bus stop once in a while. My dogs are well trained show dogs. (both have their Canine Good Citizen and one has his CD obed title the other is a Champion) They are also loved family pets who enjoy seeing their owners come off the bus. I also use the bus stop to socialize puppies. I am respectful of the kids who don't like dogs and we keep our distance from each other.

 

[JoanGirardi]

I have had dogs run up to me while I am out running either on the street or the sidewalk, and it's a scary experience at least for a couple of seconds until you can see that the dog means no harm. I have no problem with a dog barking its head off in its yard as I go past, that's just them doing their job IMO. They shouldn't be able to run right up to me, and it's a scary feeling when it happens. I'd never let my dog scare someone like that, NEVER. When we have her in the front yard with us, she's on a leash, always. I wish everyone did the same. I don't run very fast, you should be able to see me coming and control your dog, even if the dog is friendly. I shouldn't have that moment of wondering if this is an attack or a friendly hello.

 

[Took]

When I was a child, I was bit by a German Shepard. Unprovoked. There was a long time I was skiddish of all dogs. I like dogs now, not a big fan of large dogs but if they are well behaved I'm okay with them too. Sometimes there is a reason for being afraid of all dogs. It takes time to get over some things. There's nothing wrong with that.

Of course, you're right. I do know that (which is why I mentioned my friend who was attacked). I didn't mean to imply that no one could ever be afraid of a dog. My only point is that dogs are a big part of our society (in many parts of the world) and that to ban all dogs from an area, even if they're on a leash, seems a bit extreme. Also, if you had allowed your (natural, of course) fear of dogs to make you never able to interact with any dog again, I think it would have truly limited your social interactions. I'm glad you've been able to be okay with well-behaved dogs.

 

[englishteacha]

Yesterday we were on a field trip-our school went to see Where the Wild Things Are. I walked out of the theater to use the bathroom and was jumped on by a medium-sized dog. I was wearing a skirt and got scratched on my legs. The owner's concern? "Don't let the dog in the theater!" Not, "Are you OK? Did he hurt you?" I was NOT happy. What if one of our students had been the one to come out to use the rest room? Our school was the only group in the theater and I don't know who it was who had the dog there. Perhaps someone visiting the one employee there? As I entered the ladies' room, our assistant principal was chasing the dog to pick it up because the owner, "Couldn't lift more than 15lbs." because she'd recently had surgery. Why was the dog off the leash IN a cinema???

OK, I feel better now. It's been bugging me since yesterday afternoon. Dogs don't always belong where people are, and if they should be on a leash out in public.

 

[Took]

Yesterday we were on a field trip-our school went to see Where the Wild Things Are. I walked out of the theater to use the bathroom and was jumped on by a medium-sized dog. I was wearing a skirt and got scratched on my legs. The owner's concern? "Don't let the dog in the theater!" Not, "Are you OK? Did he hurt you?" I was NOT happy. What if one of our students had been the one to come out to use the rest room? Our school was the only group in the theater and I don't know who it was who had the dog there. Perhaps someone visiting the one employee there? As I entered the ladies' room, our assistant principal was chasing the dog to pick it up because the owner, "Couldn't lift more than 15lbs." because she'd recently had surgery. Why was the dog off the leash IN a cinema???

OK, I feel better now. It's been bugging me since yesterday afternoon. Dogs don't always belong where people are, and if they should be on a leash out in public.

Certainly this (and all similar) dogs shouldn't be with people, certainly not w/o a leash! Ugh.

However, I confess that when I was in France, I saw lots of dogs in public places (even bars, etc.) and literally never saw one who was badly behaved or that jumped on anyone. It was really different.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Of course, you're right. I do know that (which is why I mentioned my friend who was attacked). I didn't mean to imply that no one could ever be afraid of a dog. My only point is that dogs are a big part of our society (in many parts of the world) and that to ban all dogs from an area, even if they're on a leash, seems a bit extreme. Also, if you had allowed your (natural, of course) fear of dogs to make you never able to interact with any dog again, I think it would have truly limited your social interactions. I'm glad you've been able to be okay with well-behaved dogs.

I was just saying to me it's not over the top for a child to have issues with all dogs. People (children) have their reasons. If there are rules in place by establishments stating, "No Dogs", it should be honored. I don't really see dogs as a big part of the world. I do see they are a big part of some people's world.

I'm okay with dogs on a leash and well behaved where they are allowed. I'm not okay with them in places they are not allowed. It's forcing the issue just as people think parents try to force their children's issue on dog owners.

Consideration and courtesy go a long way on both sides.